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Tony Campana traded to DBacks

Posted: 2/18/2013 2:08 PM

Tony Campana traded to DBacks 


Per 670 the score 2 minutes ago. Campana traded to the DBacks for 2 low-level dominican pitchers. They are 17 or 18, evidently.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:11 PM

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Erick Leal (who is 17) and impressed in the DSL, listed as #35 in their prospects

  Jesus Castillo is the other RHP and he is 28, no ML experience. 

  
    Not much but better than getting nothing for Campana if he was claimed on waivers.  There must have been multiple teams interested.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:13 PM

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Paul Sullivan @ PWSullivan Cubs get RH Erick Leal and RH Jesus Castillo for Campy. Paul Sullivan ‏ @ PWSullivan Cubs trade Campy to D backs for two low level minor league pitchers, both 17 year olds.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:13 PM

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Leal, 17, went 6-2 w/ a 2.44 ERA, 70K, 11 BB in 14 appearances (12 starts, 70.0 IP) for the Dominican Summer League Dbacks last season.


Castillo, 17, went 2-4 w/ a 5.40 ERA in 14 appearances (8 starts) for the same minor league club, striking out 41 and walking 17 in 46.2 IP.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:17 PM

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My bad, guess there's more than one Jesus Castillo out there.  The 28 yr old came up on ESPN.   Good luck to Campana, great guy but one-dimensional player and we need better.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:23 PM

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Tony Campana is gritty, hard-nosed, and totally inept at the plate, so of course the Diamondbacks traded two minor leaguers to get him.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:36 PM

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cubs2007 wrote: keithlaw ‏@keithlaw
Tony Campana is gritty, hard-nosed, and totally inept at the plate, so of course the Diamondbacks traded two minor leaguers to get him.
It's a funny line, but it isn't true. He's a career .262 hitter, with a career .306 OPS. If that is completely inept, then there are a lot of guys in the MLB that are completely inept.

If the Dbacks use him properly, they have him pinch-run and steal bases every game, and then leave him in as a defensive replacement. That's a pretty useful tool on many teams, not just a contender.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:43 PM

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Campana will see the playoffs before this current Cubs team does...may not be with Arizona, but will be with someone.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:57 PM

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I am absolutely shocked they got that much for him. Of course every time he pinch runs and steals a base or catches a damn fly ball, we will have to hear it from some fans on they should have kept him. You know the same ones who booed D-Lee and kept saying they should kept Choi.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:34 PM

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This is a HUGE loss this time of year for the Cubs. He was a strong candidate in the annual bunt contest.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:37 PM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote: I am absolutely shocked they got that much for him. Of course every time he pinch runs and steals a base or catches a damn fly ball, we will have to hear it from some fans on they should have kept him. You know the same ones who booed D-Lee and kept saying they should kept Choi.
Campana was like a 1-2 WAR player depending on which site you use. Not a world beater by any stretch, but there was some value there. Yes, very 1-dimensional, but an excellent one dimension. We ended up getting like the #12 prospect from the Tigers for a rental of Jeff Baker, didn't we, so I would have figured that Campana would have gotten something similar to that. Instead we get the 35th-ranked prospect on a given team and another guy not even that good? Better than nothing, I suppose, but not much I don't think...
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:52 PM

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If these kids keep prpgressing, I figure they'll be throwing 109 MPH when they're 24,

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Posted: 2/18/2013 5:36 PM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
It's a funny line, but it isn't true. He's a career .262 hitter, with a career .306 OPS. If that is completely inept, then there are a lot of guys in the MLB that are completely inept.

If the Dbacks use him properly, they have him pinch-run and steal bases every game, and then leave him in as a defensive replacement. That's a pretty useful tool on many teams, not just a contender.
Jose Macias .256 ave, .298 OBP
Tony Campana .262 ave, .305 OBP
Augie Ojeda .243 ave, .320 OBP

I would say that's pretty inept.  As good as he is running balls down defensively, his noodle arm out there makes him a liability in tight situations.  Guys would be taking extra bases every opportunity they get.  His only plus is speed, and without expanded rosters having a guy only for purposes of a SB are going to hurt them.  Especially in the NL.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:41 PM

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ARAMIS13 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
It's a funny line, but it isn't true. He's a career .262 hitter, with a career .306 OPS. If that is completely inept, then there are a lot of guys in the MLB that are completely inept.

If the Dbacks use him properly, they have him pinch-run and steal bases every game, and then leave him in as a defensive replacement. That's a pretty useful tool on many teams, not just a contender.
Jose Macias .256 ave, .298 OBP
Tony Campana .262 ave, .305 OBP
Augie Ojeda .243 ave, .320 OBP

I would say that's pretty inept.  As good as he is running balls down defensively, his noodle arm out there makes him a liability in tight situations.  Guys would be taking extra bases every opportunity they get.  His only plus is speed, and without expanded rosters having a guy only for purposes of a SB are going to hurt them.  Especially in the NL.
Macias and Ojeda had nothing they were good at, while Campana has something he is truly elite at. Did you see him on-base in games? He drove the pitcher nuts. Not saying he deserves to be a starter. Not even saying you need to spot start him. But you could use him a lot as a defensive replacement and pinch-runner and get good value.

As for inept hitters, there are guys on teams batting .225 and lower. Valbuena comes to mind. Campana hits 40 points better than that.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:59 PM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
It's a funny line, but it isn't true. He's a career .262 hitter, with a career .306 OPS. If that is completely inept, then there are a lot of guys in the MLB that are completely inept.

If the Dbacks use him properly, they have him pinch-run and steal bases every game, and then leave him in as a defensive replacement. That's a pretty useful tool on many teams, not just a contender.
Jose Macias .256 ave, .298 OBP
Tony Campana .262 ave, .305 OBP
Augie Ojeda .243 ave, .320 OBP

I would say that's pretty inept.  As good as he is running balls down defensively, his noodle arm out there makes him a liability in tight situations.  Guys would be taking extra bases every opportunity they get.  His only plus is speed, and without expanded rosters having a guy only for purposes of a SB are going to hurt them.  Especially in the NL.
Macias and Ojeda had nothing they were good at, while Campana has something he is truly elite at. Did you see him on-base in games? He drove the pitcher nuts. Not saying he deserves to be a starter. Not even saying you need to spot start him. But you could use him a lot as a defensive replacement and pinch-runner and get good value.

As for inept hitters, there are guys on teams batting .225 and lower. Valbuena comes to mind. Campana hits 40 points better than that.
Unfortunately the thing he is elite at depends on the thing he's not very good at (won't say inept), getting on base.  He's a valuable weapon to a team with a strong bench (not sure that is the Dbacks) but I think he is a commodity the Cubs can't afford to give a roster spot to right now.  Too bad, liked him.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:46 AM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
It's a funny line, but it isn't true. He's a career .262 hitter, with a career .306 OPS. If that is completely inept, then there are a lot of guys in the MLB that are completely inept.

If the Dbacks use him properly, they have him pinch-run and steal bases every game, and then leave him in as a defensive replacement. That's a pretty useful tool on many teams, not just a contender.
Jose Macias .256 ave, .298 OBP
Tony Campana .262 ave, .305 OBP
Augie Ojeda .243 ave, .320 OBP

I would say that's pretty inept.  As good as he is running balls down defensively, his noodle arm out there makes him a liability in tight situations.  Guys would be taking extra bases every opportunity they get.  His only plus is speed, and without expanded rosters having a guy only for purposes of a SB are going to hurt them.  Especially in the NL.
Macias and Ojeda had nothing they were good at, while Campana has something he is truly elite at. Did you see him on-base in games? He drove the pitcher nuts. Not saying he deserves to be a starter. Not even saying you need to spot start him. But you could use him a lot as a defensive replacement and pinch-runner and get good value.

As for inept hitters, there are guys on teams batting .225 and lower. Valbuena comes to mind. Campana hits 40 points better than that.
we're fretting about a guy that's never had more than 200 ABs in a season and arguing if he's inept or below average hitter?  come on... this guy was not going to help the Cubs win enough to matter, I'll take 2 17 year old kids, one with some promise over that
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:26 AM

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EamusCatuli wrote: 

we're fretting about a guy that's never had more than 200 ABs in a season and arguing if he's inept or below average hitter?  come on... this guy was not going to help the Cubs win enough to matter, I'll take 2 17 year old kids, one with some promise over that
In his fewer than 200 ABs in a season, he stole 30+ bases a season. So even with his limited playing time, even with his less-than-desirable OBP, the SBs are there. If used as a pinch-runner and defensive-replacement more than he was, he could have contributed even more. And in AAA and at times in the majors, he did show flashes of much higher BA and OBP. 

I hope that the Cubs scouts and their DR facility, etc. have some special knowledge of the 17-year-olds they picked up. I would have hoped we could have gotten a Top 20 prospect from a given team instead of their 35th ranked guy on their team. Splitting hairs, maybe.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:30 AM

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There were posters that used to debate that Campana should start in CF and leadoff due to his speed. I'm glad he is gone and those debates won't happen anymore. The front office needs to upgrade the talent in the OF and are still looking for their first long term solution in either LF-CF or RF.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:45 AM

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EamusCatuli wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
It's a funny line, but it isn't true. He's a career .262 hitter, with a career .306 OPS. If that is completely inept, then there are a lot of guys in the MLB that are completely inept.

If the Dbacks use him properly, they have him pinch-run and steal bases every game, and then leave him in as a defensive replacement. That's a pretty useful tool on many teams, not just a contender.
Jose Macias .256 ave, .298 OBP
Tony Campana .262 ave, .305 OBP
Augie Ojeda .243 ave, .320 OBP

I would say that's pretty inept.  As good as he is running balls down defensively, his noodle arm out there makes him a liability in tight situations.  Guys would be taking extra bases every opportunity they get.  His only plus is speed, and without expanded rosters having a guy only for purposes of a SB are going to hurt them.  Especially in the NL.
Macias and Ojeda had nothing they were good at, while Campana has something he is truly elite at. Did you see him on-base in games? He drove the pitcher nuts. Not saying he deserves to be a starter. Not even saying you need to spot start him. But you could use him a lot as a defensive replacement and pinch-runner and get good value.

As for inept hitters, there are guys on teams batting .225 and lower. Valbuena comes to mind. Campana hits 40 points better than that.
we're fretting about a guy that's never had more than 200 ABs in a season and arguing if he's inept or below average hitter?  come on... this guy was not going to help the Cubs win enough to matter, I'll take 2 17 year old kids, one with some promise over that
It's Cubs fans. We seem to fret about everything. Perhaps spending your entire life no matter how old you are not winning a WS will do that to ya. eek1
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Posted: 2/19/2013 9:10 AM

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cubs2007 wrote: There were posters that used to debate that Campana should start in CF and leadoff due to his speed. I'm glad he is gone and those debates won't happen anymore. The front office needs to upgrade the talent in the OF and are still looking for their first long term solution in either LF-CF or RF.
I vote we start a new debate on this. biggrin
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