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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:44 PM

Cubs reach agreement with Scott Hairston 


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Sources: #Cubs in agreement on two-year deal with free-agent outfielder Scott Hairston, pending physical.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:48 PM

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Nice, thank goodness there's an alternative to DeJesus and Schierholtz against lefties.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:29 AM

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For the price I think this is a pretty good signing.


Baez has "top-shelf bat speed," according to one National League scout who recently saw him play. "I haven't seen that type of bat speed this year outside of the big leagues. It's pure, unadulterated, just violent bat-speed."

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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:02 AM

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As things stand, we currently have 3 platoon OF's, a streak-hitting LF, and Sappelt/Campana as our #5. While our OF defense may be ever so slightly improved, we're going to be hard-pressed to have more than 1 OF position produce on any given day. I like the signing, especially for the price... but I hope Theo & the Gang aren't finished. 

Right now, we're looking at offensive ?? at catcher (sophomore slump for Castillo?), 3rd base (Was Stewart impotent at the plate because of his wrist/arm issues, or has he simply been figured out by the league?), RF (Can Scheirholtz/Hairston combine for an .OBP above .310 and drive in runs?), and CF (Is the Cubs' edition of DeJesus really a "Punch & Judy" hitter, as Harry would say, like his 2012 production... or does he have a season with some extra-base licks left in him?)... and at 2nd, we have to wonder if Darwin Barney will take it up a notch and lift some of those ground balls into line drives or if he is going to be a .260/.310 singles hitter carried by his glove work?

I'm looking forward to seeing what the team looks like going into spring training... but I hope this Hairston signing isn't Theo/Hoyer's final move.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:23 AM

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mindbodyspirit wrote: As things stand, we currently have 3 platoon OF's, a streak-hitting LF, and Sappelt/Campana as our #5. While our OF defense may be ever so slightly improved, we're going to be hard-pressed to have more than 1 OF position produce on any given day. I like the signing, especially for the price... but I hope Theo & the Gang aren't finished. 

Right now, we're looking at offensive ?? at catcher (sophomore slump for Castillo?), 3rd base (Was Stewart impotent at the plate because of his wrist/arm issues, or has he simply been figured out by the league?), RF (Can Scheirholtz/Hairston combine for an .OBP above .310 and drive in runs?), and CF (Is the Cubs' edition of DeJesus really a "Punch & Judy" hitter, as Harry would say, like his 2012 production... or does he have a season with some extra-base licks left in him?)... and at 2nd, we have to wonder if Darwin Barney will take it up a notch and lift some of those ground balls into line drives or if he is going to be a .260/.310 singles hitter carried by his glove work?

I'm looking forward to seeing what the team looks like going into spring training... but I hope this Hairston signing isn't Theo/Hoyer's final move.
It was a needed signing and will help add some punch to the OF with 2 OF's weak against left handed pitching. It appears this could be the final move or they might add a utility IF for the bench. The team is no longer a 100 loss team and looks like about a 75 win team.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:00 AM

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Career .276/.325/.500 against lefties with 39 homers and 61 doubles in 850 plate appearances. Not bad for the price.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:14 AM

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/...0,4290663.story

Cubs have if things stand 42 guys on the 40 man roster.

Obviously a trade is brewing.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:19 AM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...0,4290663.story

Cubs have if things stand 42 guys on the 40 man roster.

Obviously a trade is brewing.

They could just DFA a couple players like Campana & Castillo.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:35 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...0,4290663.story

Cubs have if things stand 42 guys on the 40 man roster.

Obviously a trade is brewing.

They could just DFA a couple players like Campana & Castillo.
With Upton to Atlanta I think we could see Baltimore making a deal for Soriano IMO as it would take Kuebel out of the picture. 

Brian Matusz could be an interesting player.  He did well in the Baltimore bullpen last year, has struggled in the rotation, but is only 25, left handed and could be an interesting  candidate if the Cubs think they could turn him around.  A move from the AL East to the NL Central would surely help him out as well.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:57 AM

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ARAMIS13 wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...0,4290663.story

Cubs have if things stand 42 guys on the 40 man roster.

Obviously a trade is brewing.

They could just DFA a couple players like Campana & Castillo.
With Upton to Atlanta I think we could see Baltimore making a deal for Soriano IMO as it would take Kuebel out of the picture. 

Brian Matusz could be an interesting player.  He did well in the Baltimore bullpen last year, has struggled in the rotation, but is only 25, left handed and could be an interesting  candidate if the Cubs think they could turn him around.  A move from the AL East to the NL Central would surely help him out as well.

Obviously worth pursuing but the Cubs have gotten to the point of no return with Soriano. He only has 2 years left on his deal and he is finally producing at the level they expected at this point in his career. If they don't get value for him, what is the point of trading him?

That is why I agree with Cubs brass to put his stock high at this point and not dump for the sake of saving a few $$$.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:18 AM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

Obviously worth pursuing but the Cubs have gotten to the point of no return with Soriano. He only has 2 years left on his deal and he is finally producing at the level they expected at this point in his career. If they don't get value for him, what is the point of trading him?

That is why I agree with Cubs brass to put his stock high at this point and not dump for the sake of saving a few $$$.

I guess it just comes down to the question of what is fair value for a old OF that put up a very solid season both offensively and defensively. 

To me I'd be happy with a Matusz for Soriano deal, but I also see those that think the Cubs could get more.  The point in trading is simply that he is not apart of the plans after his contract runs up, and the Cubs aren't going to be contending for a championship this year.  So unless you really believe a 38 year old player on a possible contender is good, you trade him following a good year for some type of prospect. 

Perhaps Baltimore is at the place of feeling Matusz isn't going to be what they thought he would and maybe they are right, but you don't see the point in trading an old Soriano for a guy that could become good?  Only reason you wouldn't trade Soriano this offseason is if you think you can compete this year.  And lets be honest, it'll take a lot to duplicate what he did last year as he ages.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:26 AM

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ARAMIS13 wrote:
PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

Obviously worth pursuing but the Cubs have gotten to the point of no return with Soriano. He only has 2 years left on his deal and he is finally producing at the level they expected at this point in his career. If they don't get value for him, what is the point of trading him?

That is why I agree with Cubs brass to put his stock high at this point and not dump for the sake of saving a few $$$.

I guess it just comes down to the question of what is fair value for a old OF that put up a very solid season both offensively and defensively. 

To me I'd be happy with a Matusz for Soriano deal, but I also see those that think the Cubs could get more.  The point in trading is simply that he is not apart of the plans after his contract runs up, and the Cubs aren't going to be contending for a championship this year.  So unless you really believe a 38 year old player on a possible contender is good, you trade him following a good year for some type of prospect. 

Perhaps Baltimore is at the place of feeling Matusz isn't going to be what they thought he would and maybe they are right, but you don't see the point in trading an old Soriano for a guy that could become good?  Only reason you wouldn't trade Soriano this offseason is if you think you can compete this year.  And lets be honest, it'll take a lot to duplicate what he did last year as he ages.
Hasn't Soriano already said no to going to Baltimore ? Theo has come out and said 2015 is his projected playoff year and Soriano will be gone by then. I think most teams don't seem him coming close to his 2012 numbers.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:36 AM

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Starting to believe Theo just has to be in the news...really 2 years $6M? That means no one else was offering this type of deal and were rebuilding? I'd much rather have seen Szczur, Sapplet, Lillibridge and McDonald fight it out for the last outfield spot. Just foolish to overpay this average bench player....
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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:09 PM

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DD pretty much explain it though saying you rather Szczur is just ridicilous. He isn't ready yet for the MLB.
msqboxer2011 wrote: Starting to believe Theo just has to be in the news...really 2 years $6M? That means no one else was offering this type of deal and were rebuilding? I'd much rather have seen Szczur, Sapplet, Lillibridge and McDonald fight it out for the last outfield spot. Just foolish to overpay this average bench player....

DoubleDown11 wrote: Career .276/.325/.500 against lefties with 39 homers and 61 doubles in 850 plate appearances. Not bad for the price.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:16 PM

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ARAMIS13 wrote: .I guess it just comes down to the question of what is fair value for a old OF that put up a very solid season both offensively and defensively. 

To me I'd be happy with a Matusz for Soriano deal, but I also see those that think the Cubs could get more.  The point in trading is simply that he is not apart of the plans after his contract runs up, and the Cubs aren't going to be contending for a championship this year.  So unless you really believe a 38 year old player on a possible contender is good, you trade him following a good year for some type of prospect. 

Perhaps Baltimore is at the place of feeling Matusz isn't going to be what they thought he would and maybe they are right, but you don't see the point in trading an old Soriano for a guy that could become good?  Only reason you wouldn't trade Soriano this offseason is if you think you can compete this year.  And lets be honest, it'll take a lot to duplicate what he did last year as he ages.
I agree but I still say you don't move him for the sake of moving him. They need to get some value for him instead of a straight salary dump.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:23 PM

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Like the move.  Cheap and plugs a hole for a while until Soler and Almora are ripe enough to come up.  However, like some have mentioned, I’m hoping that this is just setting the table for a big trade or two.

 

The Soriano for Matusz deal suggested above seems reasonable for both sides, to me.  The O’s need power while the Cubs are lacking left-handed starters and are trying to get younger.

 

I’d also like to see Garza dealt, possibly to Texas, who may still want to catch up to the Angels’ offseason moves.  What if the Rangers sign Bourn, making Leonys Martin expendable?  Would a swap of Garza for Olt/Martin be fair?  Might need to toss in Vitters or some other filler.

 

We could then roll with…

 

1. David DeJesus (RF) – L

2. Leonys Martin (CF) – L

3. Starlin Castro (SS) – R

4. Anthony Rizzo (1B) – L

5. Mike Olt (3B) – R  

6. Nate Schierholtz / Scott Hairston (LF) – L/R

7. Wellington Castillo (C) – R

8. Darwin Barney (2B) – R

 

1. Jeff Samardijza (SP) – R

2. Edwin Jackson (SP) – R

3. Brian Matusz (SP) – L

4. Scott Feldman (SP) – R

5. Villanueva / Baker / Wood (SP) - R/R/L

 

1. Schierholtz / Hairston (OF) – L/R

2. Tony Campana / Dave Sappelt (OF) – L/R

3. Luis Valbuena (IF) – L

4. Josh Vitters (IF) – R

5. Dioner Navarro / Steve Clevenger (C) – S/L

 

1. Villanueva / Wood (LR) – R/L

2. Cabrera / Castillo / Rondon / Bowden / Dolis

3. Cabrera / Castillo / Rondon / Bowden / Dolis

4. James Russell (MR) – L

5. Carlos Marmol (MR) – R

6. Shawn Camp (SU) – R

7. Kyuji Fujikawa (CL) – R

 

The rotation is still a bit weak, but there’s enough prospects left to go hard after David Price next offseason.  I’d expect this squad to win 70+ games at least, but if they’re tanking at the deadline it will be easy to dump the contracts of DeJesus, Schierholtz, Hairston, Villanueva, Wood, Baker, Feldman, Marmol, Camp, etc for more prospects.  But regardless, a core of Castro/Rizzo/Shark/Martin/Olt/Barney/Castillo should be the framework of the next serious contender.  Thoughts?  Just freestyling here.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:28 PM

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Anomalied wrote:

Like the move.  Cheap and plugs a hole for a while until Soler and Almora are ripe enough to come up.  However, like some have mentioned, I’m hoping that this is just setting the table for a big trade or two.

 

The Soriano for Matusz deal suggested above seems reasonable for both sides, to me.  The O’s need power while the Cubs are lacking left-handed starters and are trying to get younger.

 

I’d also like to see Garza dealt, possibly to Texas, who may still want to catch up to the Angels’ offseason moves.  What if the Rangers sign Bourn, making Leonys Martin expendable?  Would a swap of Garza for Olt/Martin be fair?  Might need to toss in Vitters or some other filler.

 

We could then roll with…

 

1. David DeJesus (RF) – L

2. Leonys Martin (CF) – L

3. Starlin Castro (SS) – R

4. Anthony Rizzo (1B) – L

5. Mike Olt (3B) – R  

6. Nate Schierholtz / Scott Hairston (LF) – L/R

7. Wellington Castillo (C) – R

8. Darwin Barney (2B) – R

 

1. Jeff Samardijza (SP) – R

2. Edwin Jackson (SP) – R

3. Brian Matusz (SP) – L

4. Scott Feldman (SP) – R

5. Villanueva / Baker / Wood (SP) - R/R/L

 

1. Schierholtz / Hairston (OF) – L/R

2. Tony Campana / Dave Sappelt (OF) – L/R

3. Luis Valbuena (IF) – L

4. Josh Vitters (IF) – R

5. Dioner Navarro / Steve Clevenger (C) – S/L

 

1. Villanueva / Wood (LR) – R/L

2. Cabrera / Castillo / Rondon / Bowden / Dolis

3. Cabrera / Castillo / Rondon / Bowden / Dolis

4. James Russell (MR) – L

5. Carlos Marmol (MR) – R

6. Shawn Camp (SU) – R

7. Kyuji Fujikawa (CL) – R

 

The rotation is still a bit weak, but there’s enough prospects left to go hard after David Price next offseason.  I’d expect this squad to win 70+ games at least, but if they’re tanking at the deadline it will be easy to dump the contracts of DeJesus, Schierholtz, Hairston, Villanueva, Wood, Baker, Feldman, Marmol, Camp, etc for more prospects.  But regardless, a core of Castro/Rizzo/Shark/Martin/Olt/Barney/Castillo should be the framework of the next serious contender.  Thoughts?  Just freestyling here.

Is Olt even ready to play everyday? And is that much of a can't miss prospect and yet still be a player they be willing to trade?? Garza is still one of best bargaining chips. Can't miss on this one.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:48 PM

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msqboxer2011 wrote: Starting to believe Theo just has to be in the news...really 2 years $6M? That means no one else was offering this type of deal and were rebuilding? I'd much rather have seen Szczur, Sapplet, Lillibridge and McDonald fight it out for the last outfield spot. Just foolish to overpay this average bench player....
Very nice splits against lefties for Hairston. If they really use Sappelt and Hairston against lefties and DeJesus and Schierholtz against righties, then assuming their 2012 numbers repeat, you will have an .800+ OPS for those 2 outfield spots.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:48 PM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote: 

Is Olt even ready to play everyday? And is that much of a can't miss prospect and yet still be a player they be willing to trade?? Garza is still one of best bargaining chips. Can't miss on this one.
If not we can put Stewart, Valbuena, or Vitters at third until Olt has had enough seasoning at AAA.  In fact, that's how I would expect Theo & Co to handle it, based on how slow and deliberately they moved Rizzo through the system.

I think Olt is the real deal.  900+ OPS in 3 minor league seasons.  I would certainly prefer him to Castellanos from Detroit, who was rumored to be the main piece they were dangling for Garza last year.

But I agree that Garza is a very valuable commodity.  If the right offer doesn't come along, I'd be perfectly content with extending him.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:54 PM

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Anomalied wrote: If not we can put Stewart, Valbuena, or Vitters at third until Olt has had enough seasoning at AAA.  In fact, that's how I would expect Theo & Co to handle it, based on how slow and deliberately they moved Rizzo through the system.

I think Olt is the real deal.  900+ OPS in 3 minor league seasons.  I would certainly prefer him to Castellanos from Detroit, who was rumored to be the main piece they were dangling for Garza last year.

But I agree that Garza is a very valuable commodity.  If the right offer doesn't come along, I'd be perfectly content with extending him.
Good point but wouldn't you move Vitters automatically if you get Olt? Really no point of having both of them especially since like you said, Olt most likely will bring along a bit slow and start in AAA. I don't think Vitters can play first very well and even if he could, Cubs got Rizzo and Dan V.

I think Stewart and Valbuena would be this year's version of Bryan LaHair's. Placeholders until the real deal shows up at Wrigley.
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