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Posted: 1/19/2013 9:10 PM

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Cubs general manager Jed Hoyer, who took part in Saturday's presentation, wasn't aware of how cramped the home clubhouse was at Wrigley until after he took the job.

"It looked like it hadn't been renovated recently and, candidly, it looked like a Double-A ballpark," Hoyer said.

When he took free agent Kyuji Fujikawa on a tour after the pitcher had signed, Hoyer saw "a look of horror" on his face when he showed him the tiny weight room. The goal is to have not only a first-rate team but first-class facilities.

"One thing that comes up sometimes when you talk about player facilities is people think it's kind of cushy that these guys have all these modern amenities," Hoyer said of the new ballparks. "I take the position that I think they should. We're paying them a lot of money to preserve their bodies; we're expecting them to go out and entertain us every single night over an entire summer. ... I think the better you treat your players and the more amenities they have, I think they will reciprocate in kind."

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2 0130119&content_id=41045120&vkey=news_chc& amp;c_id=chc

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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:35 AM

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Expanded concourses, more point-of-sale, so less lines. Structural upgrades in the upper deck, with the wooden roof being removed. The seats and concrete will be removed from the upper deck for new seating platforms. Then a new grandstand roof will be built.

The lower deck will undergo a makeover too. Behind the dugouts, seats and concrete will be removed. New steel structures will be built and seating platforms added. All of this is to make way for a new underground batting tunnel for Cubs players. Dale Sveum’s prayers answered!

Expanded dugout, clubhouse and training room (with hydrotherapy available).

Better premium seats and lounges. The press will have a better seating area as well as enhanced network infrastructure.

More behind-the-scenes: better food-delivery avenues, plumbing and more. Restroom capacity will increase by 42%. Food points of sale will increase 100%.

New outdoor concessions servicing the upper deck, allowing fans to eat and enjoy great views of the city.

And great news: The historic facades of the ballpark will be preserved.

http://vineline.mlblogs.com/20...-wrigley-field/

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Posted: 1/20/2013 12:13 PM

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Big time change in philosophy to finance the renovations with revenue instead of city money.  Let Ricketts and Kenney add billboards and signing as they see fit.  Hopefully an agreement can be finalized in the next few months.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 3:46 PM

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doughboy981 wrote: Big time change in philosophy to finance the renovations with revenue instead of city money.  Let Ricketts and Kenney add billboards and signing as they see fit.  Hopefully an agreement can be finalized in the next few months.
There own money if they get revenue from areas that have not been allowed by the city and community. The 2 big hurdles are 3:20 starts on Friday and signs throughout the stadium that can be used to increase revenue. Not sure why there is a hangup on the later Friday starts. Anyone live in the Wrigleyville community that can shed some light. IMO, getting out of the area at 7:00 would be much easier than leaving at 5:00
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:13 AM

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absolutebadger wrote:
doughboy981 wrote: Big time change in philosophy to finance the renovations with revenue instead of city money.  Let Ricketts and Kenney add billboards and signing as they see fit.  Hopefully an agreement can be finalized in the next few months.
There own money if they get revenue from areas that have not been allowed by the city and community. The 2 big hurdles are 3:20 starts on Friday and signs throughout the stadium that can be used to increase revenue. Not sure why there is a hangup on the later Friday starts. Anyone live in the Wrigleyville community that can shed some light. IMO, getting out of the area at 7:00 would be much easier than leaving at 5:00
Ricketts wants the city to ease the landmark restrictions to let him increase the signage, increase night games, increase concerts and allow him to use Sheffield before the game as a big block party.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:32 AM

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http://articles.chicagotribune...nt-crane-kenney

Triangle area: The plans for a so-called “Triangle building” on the parking lot west of the ballpark was scrapped for an open-air area that can be used for a farmer’s market, ice rink, movie-watching and other activities.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:22 AM

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absolutebadger wrote:
doughboy981 wrote: Big time change in philosophy to finance the renovations with revenue instead of city money.  Let Ricketts and Kenney add billboards and signing as they see fit.  Hopefully an agreement can be finalized in the next few months.
There own money if they get revenue from areas that have not been allowed by the city and community. The 2 big hurdles are 3:20 starts on Friday and signs throughout the stadium that can be used to increase revenue. Not sure why there is a hangup on the later Friday starts. Anyone live in the Wrigleyville community that can shed some light. IMO, getting out of the area at 7:00 would be much easier than leaving at 5:00
I don't live there but yeah anyone who been to a game knows it's easier to get out of there at 5 then 7. Then again a lot of fans stay around and hang around Wrigley so a late charge time won't help with that, more has to do with getting more fans to the game on time and even around the area earlier.

As for the city, there back is pretty much up against the wall. They cannot afford to help but then again, cannot afford not too considering how big of a gold mind the Cubs are for the city.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:24 AM

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absolutebadger wrote:

Cubs general manager Jed Hoyer, who took part in Saturday's presentation, wasn't aware of how cramped the home clubhouse was at Wrigley until after he took the job.

"It looked like it hadn't been renovated recently and, candidly, it looked like a Double-A ballpark," Hoyer said.

When he took free agent Kyuji Fujikawa on a tour after the pitcher had signed, Hoyer saw "a look of horror" on his face when he showed him the tiny weight room. The goal is to have not only a first-rate team but first-class facilities.

"One thing that comes up sometimes when you talk about player facilities is people think it's kind of cushy that these guys have all these modern amenities," Hoyer said of the new ballparks. "I take the position that I think they should. We're paying them a lot of money to preserve their bodies; we're expecting them to go out and entertain us every single night over an entire summer. ... I think the better you treat your players and the more amenities they have, I think they will reciprocate in kind."

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2 0130119&content_id=41045120&vkey=news_chc& amp; amp;c_id=chc

About time a Cubs management team runs and treats it like a real baseball franchise. I know some fans are going to get pi$$ed especially when they start to have more advertising with signs and even stuff between innings (much more then they do now). To them, I say honk off. This is the 21st Century and a major league baseball is big time business.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 10:21 AM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:
absolutebadger wrote:

Cubs general manager Jed Hoyer, who took part in Saturday's presentation, wasn't aware of how cramped the home clubhouse was at Wrigley until after he took the job.

"It looked like it hadn't been renovated recently and, candidly, it looked like a Double-A ballpark," Hoyer said.

When he took free agent Kyuji Fujikawa on a tour after the pitcher had signed, Hoyer saw "a look of horror" on his face when he showed him the tiny weight room. The goal is to have not only a first-rate team but first-class facilities.

"One thing that comes up sometimes when you talk about player facilities is people think it's kind of cushy that these guys have all these modern amenities," Hoyer said of the new ballparks. "I take the position that I think they should. We're paying them a lot of money to preserve their bodies; we're expecting them to go out and entertain us every single night over an entire summer. ... I think the better you treat your players and the more amenities they have, I think they will reciprocate in kind."

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2 0130119&content_id=41045120&vkey=news_chc& amp; amp; amp;c_id=chc

About time a Cubs management team runs and treats it like a real baseball franchise. I know some fans are going to get pi$$ed especially when they start to have more advertising with signs and even stuff between innings (much more then they do now). To them, I say honk off. This is the 21st Century and a major league baseball is big time business.
Why would fans get pissed if the Ricketts are will to pay for the upgrades and not the city and state that can't afford ? It is about time they realize they need to pay for the upgrades and not waste another year trying to get the taxpayers to help fund their project.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 10:37 AM

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absolutebadger wrote:
There own money if they get revenue from areas that have not been allowed by the city and community. The 2 big hurdles are 3:20 starts on Friday and signs throughout the stadium that can be used to increase revenue. Not sure why there is a hangup on the later Friday starts. Anyone live in the Wrigleyville community that can shed some light. IMO, getting out of the area at 7:00 would be much easier than leaving at 5:00
I live a few blocks from the park, the biggest reason for no night games on Fridays/Saturdays is that the neighborhood bars are already packed at night from people just coming out to "go out drinking."  Mix in that crowd with a stadium full of people, and the neighborhood is just too loaded with people.  Thats most peoples biggest gripe around here. 

The other issue that some people would most likely cause a fuss about, is if they move the games back to 3:20 starts, that means people would be getting home from work and cars would be all throughout the streets taking spots.  Its 383 zone parking around the neighborhood, but you don't need a pass to park there until 6pm every day.  Games ending from the 1:20 start usually get people out of there before then, and the working crowd can have their streets back. 

Build a parking garage somewhere for people visiting with cars, and you remove that problem pretty quickly.

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Posted: 1/21/2013 10:39 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
Why would fans get pissed if the Ricketts are will to pay for the upgrades and not the city and state that can't afford ? It is about time they realize they need to pay for the upgrades and not waste another year trying to get the taxpayers to help fund their project.
I"ve read many articles stating that the Ricketts pretty much want the "entertainment tax" that is included on every ticket price to come their way to help fund the renovations since they are improving the entertainment venue that people are paying to see.  I feel thats a pretty valid argument and since I'm already paying the entertainment tax when I buy a seat, why not have that go back into the stadium?

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Posted: 1/21/2013 10:45 AM

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mike04gt wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
Why would fans get pissed if the Ricketts are will to pay for the upgrades and not the city and state that can't afford ? It is about time they realize they need to pay for the upgrades and not waste another year trying to get the taxpayers to help fund their project.
I"ve read many articles stating that the Ricketts pretty much want the "entertainment tax" that is included on every ticket price to come their way to help fund the renovations since they are improving the entertainment venue that people are paying to see.  I feel thats a pretty valid argument and since I'm already paying the entertainment tax when I buy a seat, why not have that go back into the stadium?
“Right now we’re looking at other alternatives,” Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts told the newspaper. “We’re not looking at amusement taxes.

The city needs the taxes to help pay for more imporatant things like the schools/police/fire dept, etc.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 11:19 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
mike04gt wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
Why would fans get pissed if the Ricketts are will to pay for the upgrades and not the city and state that can't afford ? It is about time they realize they need to pay for the upgrades and not waste another year trying to get the taxpayers to help fund their project.
I"ve read many articles stating that the Ricketts pretty much want the "entertainment tax" that is included on every ticket price to come their way to help fund the renovations since they are improving the entertainment venue that people are paying to see.  I feel thats a pretty valid argument and since I'm already paying the entertainment tax when I buy a seat, why not have that go back into the stadium?
“Right now we’re looking at other alternatives,” Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts told the newspaper. “We’re not looking at amusement taxes.

The city needs the taxes to help pay for more imporatant things like the schools/police/fire dept, etc.
Right or wrong the Ricketts are still basically looking for the city to 'give them something' in exchange for their investment, creating jobs, etc.

The Ricketts are very flexible with respect to what form their 'something' will take. Their attempt to get straight cash and/or relief from some of the amusement tax was not successful. This current attempt, to get out from under the 'historic landmark' restrictions and restrictive city restrictions of what time they can have games is approaching it from a completely different angle. I think it will be more successful, because while it mike tick off those who live in the neighborhood, it creates jobs and revenue for the city without costing the city anything.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 1:19 PM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
Right or wrong the Ricketts are still basically looking for the city to 'give them something' in exchange for their investment, creating jobs, etc.


As they should.  The Sox and Bears have scored hundreds of millions of dollars from the city/state governments over the past 20-25 years while the Cubs have asked for next to nothing. 

And everytime I hear a Sox fans complain about the Ricketts' looking for a handout, I remind them if not for a handout their team would have moved to St. Pete in the 80s.  So they can STFU.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:30 PM

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SPOONER wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
Right or wrong the Ricketts are still basically looking for the city to 'give them something' in exchange for their investment, creating jobs, etc.


As they should.  The Sox and Bears have scored hundreds of millions of dollars from the city/state governments over the past 20-25 years while the Cubs have asked for next to nothing. 

And everytime I hear a Sox fans complain about the Ricketts' looking for a handout, I remind them if not for a handout their team would have moved to St. Pete in the 80s.  So they can STFU.

Let's be frank. This deal should have been done two years ago back or even longer ago. It's just Rahm is slowly building a case to be the worst mayor in Chicago history. And that is saying a lot.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:53 AM

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Have you guys ever done the Wrigley Tour? I did it a couple years ago. Getting inside the place and getting a chance to see the clubhouse, press boxes, hallways, etc, you really learn what a sh!thole Wrigley actually is. Hoyer is exactly right. I have as much respect for the history of the place as anybody else, but in the world we live in, it's just not a major league ballpark as presently constructed. I frankly don't think these renovations go far enough, but I guess it's the most realistic option.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:34 AM

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I think that the Cubs are exactly right in this case.  If public financing isn't an option, then what choice remains other than trying to monetize the hell out of Wrigley Field and the surrounding area?  The ball's in your court now, Rahmbo--whatcha gonna do?
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:49 AM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:
Let's be frank. This deal should have been done two years ago back or even longer ago. It's just Rahm is slowly building a case to be the worst mayor in Chicago history. And that is saying a lot.
Ricketts tried to get the public to pay for the past couple years so it should not have been done 2 years ago. Now that Ricketts is changing his approach and willing to pay if he gets the landmark status restrictions eased. It is not just Rahm but Tunney and the rooftop owners that need to be convinced. They are opposed to extra signage or a jumbotron that would block their views or opening up Sheffield and adding night games to steal their beer sales.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:08 AM

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I had no idea that they were currently doing some similar things at Dodger Stadium. They completely tore up the lower deck to renovate the clubhouses and training facilities. Interesting how quickly you can't get things done with your own money and when you don't have any neighbors.

www.truebluela.com/2012/12/10/...novation-photos
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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:20 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: I had no idea that they were currently doing some similar things at Dodger Stadium. They completely tore up the lower deck to renovate the clubhouses and training facilities. Interesting how quickly you can't get things done with your own money and when you don't have any neighbors.

www.truebluela.com/2012/12/10/...novation-photos
Ricketts said he understood some of the restrictions when he purchased the Cubs in October 2009 but added, "What I didn't understand was that we're the only team in baseball that has these restrictions."

How does he not understand this before he buys the team ?
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