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2013 Hall of Fame

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Posted: 1/4/2013 2:36 PM

2013 Hall of Fame 


The results of the Hall of Fame voting come out next Wednesday - 1/9

Who would you vote for ?

Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Kenny Lofton, Mike Piazza, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa.

The 13 returning candidates

Jack Morris (14th time eligible, named on 66.7 percent of ballots last year); Jeff Bagwell (3rd, 56.0 percent); Lee Smith (11th, 50.6 percent); Tim Raines (6th, 48.7 percent); Alan Trammell (12th, 36.8 percent); Edgar Martinez (4th, 36.5 percent); Fred McGriff (4th, 23.9 percent); Larry Walker (3rd, 22.9 percent); Mark McGwire (7th, 19.5 percent); Don Mattingly (13th, 17.8 percent); Dale Murphy (15th, 14.5 percent); Rafael Palmeiro (3rd, 12.6 percent); Bernie Williams (2nd, 9.6 percent)

My ballot -
Biggio, Bonds, Clemens, Piazza, Sosa, Bagwell, Smith, Raines, McGwire, Palmeiro

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Posted: 1/4/2013 2:48 PM

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Biggio, Morris, Raines.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 2:55 PM

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cubs2007 wrote: The results of the Hall of Fame voting come out next Wednesday - 1/9

Who would you vote for ?

Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Kenny Lofton, Mike Piazza, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa.

The 13 returning candidates

Jack Morris (14th time eligible, named on 66.7 percent of ballots last year); Jeff Bagwell (3rd, 56.0 percent); Lee Smith (11th, 50.6 percent); Tim Raines (6th, 48.7 percent); Alan Trammell (12th, 36.8 percent); Edgar Martinez (4th, 36.5 percent); Fred McGriff (4th, 23.9 percent); Larry Walker (3rd, 22.9 percent); Mark McGwire (7th, 19.5 percent); Don Mattingly (13th, 17.8 percent); Dale Murphy (15th, 14.5 percent); Rafael Palmeiro (3rd, 12.6 percent); Bernie Williams (2nd, 9.6 percent)

My ballot -
Biggio, Bonds, Clemens, Piazza, Sosa, Bagwell, Smith, Raines, McGwire, Palmeiro

Who's going to be the 1st to take the bait....?

Last edited 1/4/2013 2:56 PM by CoachK34

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Posted: 1/4/2013 3:00 PM

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I'm starting to think the Hall of Fame is totally meaningless. Without a defined set of criteria, you could make a case for almost every player on that list. Whether or not a certain percentage of a certain population of humans agrees on a specific case is really just a bunch of nonsensical BS when you really think about it.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 3:54 PM

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The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum has many Sosa artifacts in Cooperstown, many of which have been on display from time to time.

Those artifacts include the bat used by Sosa to hit home runs Nos. 59-62 in 1998 and the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit those home runs.

The Hall also has the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit his 400th career homer, the bat he used to hit his 500th career homer and the Texas Rangers jersey and pants he wore when he hit homer No. 600.

The Hall's motto is "Preserving History, Honoring Excellence, Connecting Generations."

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Posted: 1/4/2013 3:59 PM

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Im an advocate of the Bob Costas idea.  ( i think it was him)  Put in the guys in whose stats deserve it, but tell the whole story on the plaque.  Barry Bonds hit 73 HR's and was the best player ever, but he also used performance enhancing drugs.  He was awesome, but he cheated.  This preserves history and does not ignore the ped era, it honors excellence, and it tells the story of the guys who cheated to the next generation.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 6:20 PM

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cubs2007 wrote:

The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum has many Sosa artifacts in Cooperstown, many of which have been on display from time to time.

Those artifacts include the bat used by Sosa to hit home runs Nos. 59-62 in 1998 and the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit those home runs.

The Hall also has the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit his 400th career homer, the bat he used to hit his 500th career homer and the Texas Rangers jersey and pants he wore when he hit homer No. 600.

The Hall's motto is "Preserving History, Honoring Excellence, Connecting Generations."


Why doesn't Schilling get your vote?  His bloody sock is in the Hall of Fame.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:36 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:

The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum has many Sosa artifacts in Cooperstown, many of which have been on display from time to time.

Those artifacts include the bat used by Sosa to hit home runs Nos. 59-62 in 1998 and the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit those home runs.

The Hall also has the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit his 400th career homer, the bat he used to hit his 500th career homer and the Texas Rangers jersey and pants he wore when he hit homer No. 600.

The Hall's motto is "Preserving History, Honoring Excellence, Connecting Generations."


Why doesn't Schilling get your vote?  His bloody sock is in the Hall of Fame.
The taxpayers of Rhode Island would love to see him get into the HOF.  All of his memorabilia would be worth a lot more at auction if that's the case.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 7:41 PM

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Biggio was a nice player, but not close to a hall of famer. I would go with bonds, Clemens, and Raines.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 8:44 PM

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papa46 wrote: Biggio was a nice player, but not close to a hall of famer. I would go with bonds, Clemens, and Raines.
Bonds but no Sosa?
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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:12 AM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:

The National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum has many Sosa artifacts in Cooperstown, many of which have been on display from time to time.

Those artifacts include the bat used by Sosa to hit home runs Nos. 59-62 in 1998 and the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit those home runs.

The Hall also has the Cubs jersey worn by Sosa when he hit his 400th career homer, the bat he used to hit his 500th career homer and the Texas Rangers jersey and pants he wore when he hit homer No. 600.

The Hall's motto is "Preserving History, Honoring Excellence, Connecting Generations."


Why doesn't Schilling get your vote?  His bloody sock is in the Hall of Fame.
I think Schilling will eventually get in. I had already voted for 10 he would have been #11.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:14 AM

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papa46 wrote: Biggio was a nice player, but not close to a hall of famer. I would go with bonds, Clemens, and Raines.
Biggio has over 3000 hits. He will be a HOF player and maybe 1st ballot.

Do you vote for Bonds and Clemens because you feel they were HOF players before they started taking PED's ?
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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:53 AM

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http://www.hardballtimes.com/m...y-2013-edition/

Prediction time


NamePredictionCraig Biggio76Jack Morris69Mike Piazza61Jeff Bagwell52Tim Raines48Lee Smith47Barry Bonds45Roger Clemens45Curt Schilling39Alan Trammell38Edgar Martinez33Larry Walker17Fred McGriff16Mark McGwire16Don Mattingly14Dale Murphy14Sammy Sosa13Rafael Palmerio10
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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:55 AM

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Jack Morris still not being in is a joke.
gkelly: Stafford can always put these together when the game is out of reach.  He's simply a fantasy football QB who racks up stats in garbage time.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:57 AM

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WhoCares1 wrote: Jack Morris still not being in is a joke.

Morris is a borderline HOF - his 3.90 lifetime era would be the highest ever in the HOF
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:02 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
WhoCares1 wrote: Jack Morris still not being in is a joke.

Morris is a borderline HOF - his 3.90 lifetime era would be the highest ever in the HOF
Yeah, it takes more than postseason excellence.  Good thing too, for guys like Rod Carew and Ernie Banks.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:47 PM

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I have been looking at Biggio numbers more closely.  He played forever, and I initially saw him more as a compiler than great.  He did have 8 great seasons and lots more very good ones. 

I can be convinced on Biggio.  What is the argument against Tim Raines?  He seems like an easy one.  I know he had cocain issues that have been well documented.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 7:10 PM

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Looking at baseball-reference's similarity scores for Biggio, of the 10 listed all but two are in the Hall of Fame, and those two are Derek Jeter and Lou Whitaker.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 8:51 AM

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Posted: 1/9/2013 9:17 AM

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