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Callis Rates Cubs System

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Posted: 1/3/2013 11:30 AM

Callis Rates Cubs System 


Jim Callis @ jimcallisBA I have them at 12, little higher than rest of staff.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 2:32 PM

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So whoever said they were Top 10 was misinformed?
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Posted: 1/3/2013 3:36 PM

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I have no agenda in posting this. I do like Theo's direction so far. But it's a big world out there. And there are other teams who might be better. And some a lot better. TBD.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 3:58 PM

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It would be hard to be a top 10 without having a AA or AAA player or two close to breaking into the 25 man roster.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 6:17 PM

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Those ratings don't really mean much but, in the Cubs case, the arrow is definately pointing up. Their ranking is almost entirely based on the talent acquired in the last year and a half-- since the big budget increase in the draft of 2011 and continued/expanded on with team Theo/Jed. As a result, all their high impact talent currently resides at the lower levels. They have about as much of it as the clubs ranked ahead of them, just not high enough up the ladder yet and as a result, it's more unproven. The ranking is understandable. And it is, afterall, how well the high impact talent does that willl determine how this group ultimately ranks, in retrospect. It will also go a long way in determining just how successful the rebuild was. This is the talent that will be difficult to obtain for teams with a long srtring of success, under the new CBA.

And there aren't many teams (if any,) that have the potential to make a higher up in next years rankings:

1) They have restocked the pitching depth this offseason, which once more leaves them poised to flip coveted, proven pitching for prospects.
2) Last year's pains will be this year's gains. They pick 2nd and 39th overall and no. 2 for every preceeding round. They also will have the no. 2 international budget-- which isn't likely to have an effect on next year's rankings but, still a nice Cubbie development, for a change.
3)They have as many legitamite break-out candidates as any system in baseball. Vogelbach will jump a prospect tier if he continues his dominate hitting, at a higher level, this year. Many expected Candelaria to explode on the scene last year, much like Castro did in his first season stateside. Showed nothing last year that would indicate it can't happen this year. Vizcaino will start the season ready to go. Same goes for Panagua. A ton of young middle infielders can experience a bump up with follow up or come back years. The DSL showed uncommonly good depth-- by traditional Cubs standards. And don't forget the big three wil be competing at higher levels, which will mean more recognition, if they continue to impress. If Maples can stay healthy, if Underwood can begin to harness his stuff, and if Simpson can get over his three year battle with mono..........................

Ok, the last one was simply to see if anyone was paying attention.

Last edited 1/3/2013 6:20 PM by HolyMackeral

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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:23 AM

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http://www.baseballamerica.com...13/2614527.html

TOP TEN
PROSPECTS

1.

Javier Baez, ss

2.

Albert Almora, of

3.

Jorge Soler, of

4.

Arodys Vizcaino, rhp

5.

Brett Jackson, of

6.

Pierce Johnson, rhp

7.

Dan Vogelbach, 1b

8.

Jeimer Candelario, 3b

9.

Kyuji Fujikawa, rhp

10.

Arismendy Alcantara, ss

BEST
TOOLS

Best Hitter for Average

Albert Almora

Best Power Hitter

Dan Vogelbach

Best Strike Zone Discipline

Logan Watkins

Fastest Baserunner

Matt Szczur

Best Athlete

Matt Szczur

Best Fastball

Arodys Vizcaino

Best Curveball

Arodys Vizcaino

Best Slider

Alberto Cabrera

Best Changeup

Brooks Raley

Best Control

Kyle Hendricks

Best Defensive Catcher

Chadd Krist

Best Defensive Infielder

Javier Baez

Best Infield Arm

Junior Lake

Best Defensive OF

Albert Almora

Best Outfield Arm

Jorge Soler

PROJECTED 2016
LINEUP

Catcher

Welington Castillo

First Base

Anthony Rizzo

Second Base

Starlin Castro

Third Base

Jeimer Candelario

Shortstop

Javier Baez

Left Field

Brett Jackson

Center Field

Albert Almora

Right Field

Jorge Soler

No. 1 Starter

Jeff Samardzija

No. 2 Starter

Matt Garza

No. 3 Starter

Arodys Vizcaino

No. 4 Starter

Edwin Jackson

No. 5 Starter

Pierce Johnson

Closer

Juan Carlos Paniagua

Last edited 1/7/2013 12:43 PM by cubs2007

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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:34 AM

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cubs2007 wrote: http://www.baseballamerica.com...13/2614527.html

A tweet on this:

Jim Callis @ jimcallisBA Tremendous instincts, better than expected. Probably winds up at 3B. @ moorhouse_scott : Best Def Inf: Javier Baez. Just blew my mind.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:58 AM

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Thanks for posting all that.  I'm in the dark when it comes to how links work.

cubs2007 wrote: http://www.baseballamerica.com...13/2614527.html

TOP TEN
PROSPECTS

1.

Javier Baez, ss

2.

Albert Almora, of

3.

Jorge Soler, of

4.

Arodys Vizcaino, rhp

5.

Brett Jackson, of

6.

Pierce Johnson, rhp

7.

Dan Vogelbach, 1b

8.

Jeimer Candelario, 3b

9.

Kyuji Fujikawa, rhp

10.

Arismendy Alcantara, ss

BEST
TOOLS

Best Hitter for Average

Albert Almora

Best Power Hitter

Dan Vogelbach

Best Strike Zone Discipline

Logan Watkins

Fastest Baserunner

Matt Szczur

Best Athlete

Matt Szczur

Best Fastball

Arodys Vizcaino

Best Curveball

Arodys Vizcaino

Best Slider

Alberto Cabrera

Best Changeup

Brooks Raley

Best Control

Kyle Hendricks

Best Defensive Catcher

Chadd Krist

Best Defensive Infielder

Javier Baez

Best Infield Arm

Junior Lake

Best Defensive OF

Albert Almora

Best Outfield Arm

Jorge Soler

PROJECTED 2016
LINEUP

Catcher

Welington Castillo

First Base

Anthony Rizzo

Second Base

Starlin Castro

Third Base

Jeimer Candelario

Shortstop

Javier Baez

Left Field

Brett Jackson

Center Field

Albert Almora

Right Field

Jorge Soler

No. 1 Starter

Jeff Samardzija

No. 2 Starter

Matt Garza

No. 3 Starter

Arodys Vizcaino

No. 4 Starter

Edwin Jackson

No. 5 Starter

Pierce Johnson

Closer

Juan Carlos Paniagua

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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:47 AM

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How did we get Vizcaino? He was a NYY draftee in 07 and with Atlanta too. He seems like the best pitching prospect we have and he's not home grown.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:41 PM

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RAMBLE wrote: How did we get Vizcaino? He was a NYY draftee in 07 and with Atlanta too. He seems like the best pitching prospect we have and he's not home grown.
Trade with Maholm / Johnson
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:21 PM

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RAMBLE wrote: How did we get Vizcaino? He was a NYY draftee in 07 and with Atlanta too. He seems like the best pitching prospect we have and he's not home grown.

Whoa, really?  You weren't on here with the rest of us on the edge of our seats as the trade deadline loomed?  He was the most promising return the Cubs got.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:33 PM

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RAMBLE wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: http://www.baseballamerica.com...13/2614527.html

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Jim Callis @ jimcallisBA Tremendous instincts, better than expected. Probably winds up at 3B. @ moorhouse_scott : Best Def Inf: Javier Baez. Just blew my mind.

Panigua was #11 on the list, Christian Villanueva was #12, and Alberto Cabrera was #13.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:52 PM

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Well Toronto shows you what you do with good farm systems....funny that we moved up from #16 in September to #12, because of attrition.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:52 PM

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Well Toronto shows you what you do with good farm systems....funny that we moved up from #16 in September to #12, because of attrition.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:59 PM

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Baseball America's 2013 prediction -

C: Geovany Soto

1B: Derrek Lee

2B: Starlin Castro

3B: Aramis Ramirez

SS: Hak-Ju Lee

LF: Josh Vitters

CF: Brett Jackson

RF: Kyler Burke

SP1: Carlos Zambrano

SP2: Jay Jackson

SP3: Chris Carpenter

SP4: Ryan Dempster

SP5: Randy Wells

CP: Andrew Cashner 

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Posted: 1/7/2013 2:44 PM

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cubs2007 wrote: Baseball America's 2013 prediction -

C: Geovany Soto

1B: Derrek Lee

2B: Starlin Castro

3B: Aramis Ramirez

SS: Hak-Ju Lee

LF: Josh Vitters

CF: Brett Jackson

RF: Kyler Burke

SP1: Carlos Zambrano

SP2: Jay Jackson

SP3: Chris Carpenter

SP4: Ryan Dempster

SP5: Randy Wells

CP: Andrew Cashner 


They seriously predicted Derrek Lee would still be here in 2013?
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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:44 PM

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RAMBLE wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: http://www.baseballamerica.com...13/2614527.html

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Jim Callis @ jimcallisBA Tremendous instincts, better than expected. Probably winds up at 3B. @ moorhouse_scott : Best Def Inf: Javier Baez. Just blew my mind.

"Probably winds up at 3b." Well. judging by the FO activities since taking over, I'm not so sure about that. I think the Cubs braintrust may be be looking at the possibilities of that keystone combo that BA projects for 2016, with Castro at 2B and Baez at SS, and like the idea of the huge, post-PED era  offensive advantage it could bring. It gets my endorsement, for what it's worth.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:00 PM

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HolyMackeral wrote:
RAMBLE wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: http://www.baseballamerica.com...13/2614527.html

A tweet on this:

Jim Callis @ jimcallisBA Tremendous instincts, better than expected. Probably winds up at 3B. @ moorhouse_scott : Best Def Inf: Javier Baez. Just blew my mind.

"Probably winds up at 3b." Well. judging by the FO activities since taking over, I'm not so sure about that. I think the Cubs braintrust may be be looking at the possibilities of that keystone combo that BA projects for 2016, with Castro at 2B and Baez at SS, and like the idea of the huge, post-PED era  offensive advantage it could bring. It gets my endorsement, for what it's worth.
Callis doesn't explain why he thinks Baez, responding to someone's observation that he's the "best defensive infielder", will probably wind up at 3B.  Is it because the Cubs have a need there?  I've heard people say that his frame indicates he has a lot of room to grow out and therefore will lose some agility for SS.  Plus, he reportedly has the bat to still be valuable with the switch.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 8:09 AM

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So Villanueva doesn't make our top 10, huh? Interesting. He was #100 in all of baseball going into last season.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 1:05 PM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: So Villanueva doesn't make our top 10, huh? Interesting. He was #100 in all of baseball going into last season.
He ranked 12th - Scouts project him to have 15 HR or less power.
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