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Shark's availability

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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:26 PM

Shark's availability 


He's apparently receiving quite a bit of attention. Padres, Rangers, and Royals interested at the moment.

It'd surprise me to see him traded. I'd expect a pretty significant return.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:32 PM

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cubbyfan25 wrote: He's apparently receiving quite a bit of attention. Padres, Rangers, and Royals interested at the moment.

It'd surprise me to see him traded. I'd expect a pretty significant return.
I'd be surprised if they traded any starter. Baker missed all of last year  Garza half the year. You had Villanueva with some elbow problems last season.

I'd expect they start the year with all the pitchers then come July the dealing can begin.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:53 PM

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if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 3:08 PM

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He's not on the block....the Cubs control him until 2015 before Free Agency.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 3:09 PM

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msqboxer2011 wrote: He's not on the block....the Cubs control him until 2015 before Free Agency.
i can assure you they're presently taking calls.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 3:14 PM

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Three teams with talented young 3rd basemen. Pretty easy to connect the dots here.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 3:21 PM

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I can see them trading Garza but if you're going to trade a young, talented starter under team control for 3 more years, it's going to take a hell of a package.  Unless they think last year was a fluke on Shark and want to sell high.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 3:40 PM

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cubbyfan25 wrote:
msqboxer2011 wrote: He's not on the block....the Cubs control him until 2015 before Free Agency.
i can assure you they're presently taking calls.
Alright, Cubby....who's your deep throat?
Go away Cubs2007, no one cares what you have to say!!!!!
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Posted: 12/20/2012 4:08 PM

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a former classmate of mine is moderately connected on the finance and business operations side of the front office.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 4:24 PM

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With a glut of starting pitching options, it wouldn't surprise me to see calls taken on the returning pieces.  Just a guess, but I say that Travis Wood is traded during spring training.


Baez has "top-shelf bat speed," according to one National League scout who recently saw him play. "I haven't seen that type of bat speed this year outside of the big leagues. It's pure, unadulterated, just violent bat-speed."

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Posted: 12/20/2012 6:22 PM

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ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 6:30 PM

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SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.

Last edited 12/20/2012 6:31 PM by KatieCubFan

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Posted: 12/20/2012 6:59 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:17 PM

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There is the perception that Samardsija is on the rise and he is under control until 2015. These facts and the high demand on pitching could produce a major windfall.

He's one year younger than Garza, the Cubs are still in rebuild mode and I strongly feel you would be trading him at his peak value. I'd definately "kick the tires" on this one. After today's signings, the Cubs may be inclined to do so, as well.

Last edited 12/20/2012 7:18 PM by HolyMackeral

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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:21 PM

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SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
So if you wouldn't want Headley, and you wouldn't want their #1 prospect (who tore up AAA pitching last year) who would you want?

Last edited 12/20/2012 7:24 PM by KatieCubFan

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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:59 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
So if you wouldn't want Headley, and you wouldn't want their #1 prospect (who tore up AAA pitching last year) who would you want?
I have to admit I don't have a good answer here. But I am not in favor of dealing him for a "prospect" and I'm not 100% sold on Headley.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:51 PM

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SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
So if you wouldn't want Headley, and you wouldn't want their #1 prospect (who tore up AAA pitching last year) who would you want?
I have to admit I don't have a good answer here. But I am not in favor of dealing him for a "prospect" and I'm not 100% sold on Headley.
Headley has a career .769 OPS in 2500 AB's while playing in one of the toughest parks to hit.

I would trade JS for Headley straight up in a second, but not sure how that helps SD unless they then flip JS for prospects.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:58 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
So if you wouldn't want Headley, and you wouldn't want their #1 prospect (who tore up AAA pitching last year) who would you want?
keep in mind Jedd played in Tuscon.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 9:12 PM

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absolutebadger wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
So if you wouldn't want Headley, and you wouldn't want their #1 prospect (who tore up AAA pitching last year) who would you want?
I have to admit I don't have a good answer here. But I am not in favor of dealing him for a "prospect" and I'm not 100% sold on Headley.
Headley has a career .769 OPS in 2500 AB's while playing in one of the toughest parks to hit.

I would trade JS for Headley straight up in a second, but not sure how that helps SD unless they then flip JS for prospects.
But take out last year and you don't have much. I know--he did it so you can't just take it away but I wonder if he is the 2012 guy or the pre-2012 guy. To be fair, I did just check out his away splits from prior years and they were good.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 9:20 PM

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They could say the same about JS
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absolutebadger wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
SPOONER wrote:
ARAMIS13 wrote: if Chase Headley is the return from San Diego make the deal now and don't look back.
I am probably missing the boat here but Chase Headley...meh.

+1.  I would rather the deal centered around Gyorko if he is traded to San Diego.  I'd just as soon keep Shark though unless they get young ML-ready pitching in other trades.
And a guy who hasn't played in the majors as the "center"? Double meh.
So if you wouldn't want Headley, and you wouldn't want their #1 prospect (who tore up AAA pitching last year) who would you want?
I have to admit I don't have a good answer here. But I am not in favor of dealing him for a "prospect" and I'm not 100% sold on Headley.
Headley has a career .769 OPS in 2500 AB's while playing in one of the toughest parks to hit.

I would trade JS for Headley straight up in a second, but not sure how that helps SD unless they then flip JS for prospects.
But take out last year and you don't have much. I know--he did it so you can't just take it away but I wonder if he is the 2012 guy or the pre-2012 guy. To be fair, I did just check out his away splits from prior years and they were good.

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