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  • RAMBLE
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:36 AM

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Buster Olney @ Buster_ESPN Cubs' rotation could be Jeff Samardzija, Matt Garza, Edwin Jackson, Scott Baker and Scott Feldman. Which is better than in 2012.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 9:10 AM

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Hopefully we get Jackson. With him, I'm sure Villanueva starts until Baker is ready. The thing I like about the rotation is that it gives them a chance to win everyday. Obviously, no true #1 (maybe not even a #2), but none of those guys are slouches.

Maybe I'm just drinking more blue Kool-aid!
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Posted: 12/20/2012 9:59 AM

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I am going to miss Casey Coleman.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:00 AM

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RAMBLE wrote: I am going to miss Casey Coleman.
......and Rusin and Raley
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:00 AM

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RAMBLE wrote: Buster Olney @ Buster_ESPN Cubs' rotation could be Jeff Samardzija, Matt Garza, Edwin Jackson, Scott Baker and Scott Feldman. Which is better than in 2012.

Question is what they do with Wood now if that is the case?

I think the key to the rotation is Garza and Samardzija. If they can both take the next step, then you have a pretty good group.

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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:07 AM

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RAMBLE wrote: Buster Olney @ Buster_ESPN Cubs' rotation could be Jeff Samardzija, Matt Garza, Edwin Jackson, Scott Baker and Scott Feldman. Which is better than in 2012.
I'm not sure how much better -

Replacing Dempster/Maholm/Wood/Volstad
with Jackson/Baker/Feldman/Villanueva

What you have done is provided depth - Both Felman & Villanueva are good in the bullpen and can start.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:10 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
RAMBLE wrote: Buster Olney @ Buster_ESPN Cubs' rotation could be Jeff Samardzija, Matt Garza, Edwin Jackson, Scott Baker and Scott Feldman. Which is better than in 2012.
I'm not sure how much better -

Replacing Dempster/Maholm/Wood/Volstad
with Jackson/Baker/Feldman/Villanueva

What you have done is provided depth - Both Felman & Villanueva are good in the bullpen and can start.
The second group doesn't have the word Volstad in it.  That would be my guess.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:26 AM

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Call me crazy but isn't Wood still on the team unless he gets traded?
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:41 AM

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Am I insane or is this team a healthy Garza and an Anthony Rizzo breakout season away from actually being watchable in 2013? Notice I said watchable, not contender.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:43 AM

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How I long for those 23-22 losses to the Phillies.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 10:48 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: Am I insane or is this team a healthy Garza and an Anthony Rizzo breakout season away from actually being watchable in 2013? Notice I said watchable, not contender.
+1


Baez has "top-shelf bat speed," according to one National League scout who recently saw him play. "I haven't seen that type of bat speed this year outside of the big leagues. It's pure, unadulterated, just violent bat-speed."

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Posted: 12/20/2012 11:13 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: Am I insane or is this team a healthy Garza and an Anthony Rizzo breakout season away from actually being watchable in 2013? Notice I said watchable, not contender.

Watchable baseball starts with a solid rotation and bullpen plus good defense, so I agree this has potential.  It will also be interesting to see how Stewart performs with a repaired wrist.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 11:17 AM

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KatieCubFan wrote: Watchable baseball starts with a solid rotation and bullpen plus good defense, so I agree this has potential.  It will also be interesting to see how Stewart performs with a repaired wrist.

If Stewart is healthy, I like the Cubs infield defensively.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:53 PM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: Am I insane or is this team a healthy Garza and an Anthony Rizzo breakout season away from actually being watchable in 2013? Notice I said watchable, not contender.
The Cubs actually played pretty well from the time of the Rizzo call up to the trade deadline. If the Cubs again become sellers at the deadline and they find themselves with a few injuries, August/Sept coul again be hard to watch.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:20 PM

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Unless, by some act of the Almighty, we are above .500 in late July, we are going to be seeing a "Purge 2.0" to add prospects once again. It would have to be considered "probable" that we are going to be watching some pretty cringe-worthy games in August  & September. Dumping DeJesus, Schierholtz, Baker, Feldman, Marmol, Soriano (should he be hitting), and possibly Garza at the deadline would likely make for a pretty good haul (possibly better than another "Day 1" of the draft). Ideally, we separate the wheat during April-July and determine who can be a building block for 2014.

"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.”  ~Albert Einstein

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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:22 AM

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mindbodyspirit wrote: Unless, by some act of the Almighty, we are above .500 in late July, we are going to be seeing a "Purge 2.0" to add prospects once again. It would have to be considered "probable" that we are going to be watching some pretty cringe-worthy games in August  & September. Dumping DeJesus, Schierholtz, Baker, Feldman, Marmol, Soriano (should he be hitting), and possibly Garza at the deadline would likely make for a pretty good haul (possibly better than another "Day 1" of the draft). Ideally, we separate the wheat during April-July and determine who can be a building block for 2014.
That would be nice, but I think the only guy from that list that brings any legit starters back is Garza, who I doubt makes it to the deadline.  Maybe a good Marmol helps bring another good prospect too. With this new rotation depth, maybe a Garza trade can focus on getting position players back instead of pitching.

DeJesus and Schierholtz are 4th OFs on a contending team and Baker and Feldman are #4's or 5's on a good team, which probably doesn't bring back a potential starter.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 12:11 PM

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doughboy981 wrote:
mindbodyspirit wrote: Unless, by some act of the Almighty, we are above .500 in late July, we are going to be seeing a "Purge 2.0" to add prospects once again. It would have to be considered "probable" that we are going to be watching some pretty cringe-worthy games in August  & September. Dumping DeJesus, Schierholtz, Baker, Feldman, Marmol, Soriano (should he be hitting), and possibly Garza at the deadline would likely make for a pretty good haul (possibly better than another "Day 1" of the draft). Ideally, we separate the wheat during April-July and determine who can be a building block for 2014.
That would be nice, but I think the only guy from that list that brings any legit starters back is Garza, who I doubt makes it to the deadline.  Maybe a good Marmol helps bring another good prospect too. With this new rotation depth, maybe a Garza trade can focus on getting position players back instead of pitching.

DeJesus and Schierholtz are 4th OFs on a contending team and Baker and Feldman are #4's or 5's on a good team, which probably doesn't bring back a potential starter.
I'm still interested to see if they pull off a trade before Spring sending one of the "extra" pitchers somewhere for a 3B prospect or something.  I don't think we have the juice to pull it off and I almost hope we don't.  Having the depth in the rotation could be fun to watch this year.
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