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Posted: 12/14/2012 2:11 PM

Sanchez strategy 


I've been pushing for a signing like Sanchez that would have been fair at 5/75 and he was at the right age (28) and had talent to help now and long term.

Most have debated with me that the Cubs would not pay a contract like this until they had the core and were ready to compete.

Do you still think the front office won't sign deals or make trades to acquire players that are in their late 20's that can be part of the long term plan this off-season ?
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Posted: 12/14/2012 2:24 PM

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I am sorry but I have to say something. Are you so damn starved for attention you honestly need to start another thread about something that is being covered in like 5 other ones?

Get a life guy seriously.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 2:57 PM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

I am sorry but I have to say something. Are you so damn starved for attention you honestly need to start another thread about something that is being covered in like 5 other ones?

Get a life guy seriously.

Change your name again
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Posted: 12/14/2012 3:18 PM

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cubs2007 wrote: I've been pushing for a signing like Sanchez that would have been fair at 5/75 and he was at the right age (28) and had talent to help now and long term.

Most have debated with me that the Cubs would not pay a contract like this until they had the core and were ready to compete.

Do you still think the front office won't sign deals or make trades to acquire players that are in their late 20's that can be part of the long term plan this off-season ?
The better question is, what are you going to complain about now?  Obviously the FO is trying to get the players you covet.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 3:41 PM

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CoachK34 wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: I've been pushing for a signing like Sanchez that would have been fair at 5/75 and he was at the right age (28) and had talent to help now and long term.

Most have debated with me that the Cubs would not pay a contract like this until they had the core and were ready to compete.

Do you still think the front office won't sign deals or make trades to acquire players that are in their late 20's that can be part of the long term plan this off-season ?
The better question is, what are you going to complain about now?  Obviously the FO is trying to get the players you covet.
Not complaining - Obviously glad they may be changing the way they are going to build instead of rebuild the team.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:27 PM

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Why doesn't Theo just pick up the phone and buy out Garza's last arb year and sign him to the same contract as Sanchez???
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:41 PM

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msqboxer2011 wrote: Why doesn't Theo just pick up the phone and buy out Garza's last arb year and sign him to the same contract as Sanchez???
Rumor is that Garza wanted a no trade and Theo wouldn't give which stopped extension talks last year
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:55 PM

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cubs2007 wrote:
CoachK34 wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: I've been pushing for a signing like Sanchez that would have been fair at 5/75 and he was at the right age (28) and had talent to help now and long term.

Most have debated with me that the Cubs would not pay a contract like this until they had the core and were ready to compete.

Do you still think the front office won't sign deals or make trades to acquire players that are in their late 20's that can be part of the long term plan this off-season ?
The better question is, what are you going to complain about now?  Obviously the FO is trying to get the players you covet.
Not complaining - Obviously glad they may be changing the way they are going to build instead of rebuild the team.
Sanchez may have been an exception case. Just because the Cubs were willing to spend 5/$75M for Sanchez doesn't mean they will open up the coffers for just anyone. Let's see what they actually do. It might also have been a precursor to other moves that now may or may not happen.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:27 PM

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I nominate this as the worst post of the year.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 6:34 PM

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papa46 wrote: I nominate this as the worst post of the year.

Why? There have been 6,678 just like it.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 7:36 PM

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papa46 wrote: I nominate this as the worst post of the year.

Why? There have been 6,678 just like it.
I nominate this as the best post of the year.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:06 PM

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I actually meant Pork Chops personal attack on the the topic.  My New Years resolution is the find the ignore button for his silliness.
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Posted: 12/15/2012 7:10 AM

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papa46 wrote: I actually meant Pork Chops personal attack on the the topic.  My New Years resolution is the find the ignore button for his silliness.


Maybe you can join Cubs2007 and spend over a year commenting on my posts after I told him REPEATLY that he was on my ignore list. The words "ignore" and "plagarism" are not in his vocubularly but by all means join him.

And my New Year's resolution is to continue pointing out patheticness of people just starving for attention that they need to start threads on the same subject that is being talked about IN FIVE OTHER THREADS and act like the world is ending if the Cubs lose. And like I said, my life is great regardless of what the Cubs do. Cubs2007 has made it painfully clear his life isn't. It's sad, pathetic and most importantly, out of touch with reality.

But again, join him if you wish. Hopefully you will understand what ignore means. biggrin 



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Posted: 12/15/2012 10:03 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
 
Not complaining - Obviously glad they may be changing the way they are going to build instead of rebuild the team.
I vehemently disagree with this statement.  They are not "changing their plan", the plan isn't the same tune for the whole song.  It changes as time goes on, and this attempted sign was part of the "plan".


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Posted: 12/15/2012 10:44 AM

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I of course do not personally know Cubs2007 or you.  You seem to have a lot of anger for such a happy well adjusted guy on the Cubs message board.  Telling people they are sad, pathetic and out of touch with reality is personal.  

I encourage you to have a little more positive New Year's resolution that to point out peoples patheticness.  

Your behavior on this board in inappropriate, and I doubt their is a high correlation between bad message board behavior and success in life.

New Year's resolutions start in the New Year.  biggrin
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Posted: 12/15/2012 11:34 AM

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papa46 wrote: I of course do not personally know Cubs2007 or you.  You seem to have a lot of anger for such a happy well adjusted guy on the Cubs message board.  Telling people they are sad, pathetic and out of touch with reality is personal.  

I encourage you to have a little more positive New Year's resolution that to point out peoples patheticness.  

Your behavior on this board in inappropriate, and I doubt their is a high correlation between bad message board behavior and success in life.

New Year's resolutions start in the New Year.  biggrin

Truth hurts, sorry if some cannot handle it. And telling people who are sad, pathetic and out of touch is not anger. It's just the truth. Like I said on other threads, I honestly feel sorry for the guy. It's quite evident he is just starving for attention and really needs to get out or something. That has why I had him on ignore for over a year but really never really said anything until now even though he has been a stalker on myself and others who have him ignore but this is thread is absolutely ridicilious. There were 5 other threads on this topic but he had to start a new one just because he wanted attention. Pathetic I'd say. Only thing worse is that manic who keeps trolling every month with the most ridicilous threads in history. I find them all sad and pathetic sorry.

And why wait to the New Year! I can put you on ignore right now and we can go out seperate ways. Too bad you wont' follow it but at least I won't have to listen to whinning ass just like the others, LOL!

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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:15 AM

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mhuml32 wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
 
Not complaining - Obviously glad they may be changing the way they are going to build instead of rebuild the team.
I vehemently disagree with this statement.  They are not "changing their plan", the plan isn't the same tune for the whole song.  It changes as time goes on, and this attempted sign was part of the "plan".
I had suggested going after Sanchez a number of times on this board. You and other vehemently disagreed with the idea because the core was not built and it was too soon to sign long term, expensive deals on a team not ready to compete.

So now you think the team should sign free agents that can help short and long term when available ?
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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:27 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
mhuml32 wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
 
Not complaining - Obviously glad they may be changing the way they are going to build instead of rebuild the team.
I vehemently disagree with this statement.  They are not "changing their plan", the plan isn't the same tune for the whole song.  It changes as time goes on, and this attempted sign was part of the "plan".
I had suggested going after Sanchez a number of times on this board. You and other vehemently disagreed with the idea because the core was not built and it was too soon to sign long term, expensive deals on a team not ready to compete.

So now you think the team should sign free agents that can help short and long term when available ?
Sanchez is the exception that proves the rule. Theo & Pals were looking to get value. Sanchez for 5 yrs/$75M represents some value. Coming to the NL, with a much better defense behind him, his numbers would probably have improved, making him a decent pickup for that price. Once the price went up, Theo & Pals reached their 'walk away' point and walked away.

Counter this with Darvish and Upton. Darvish was worth it for what the Cubs bid, and not worth it for the $30+M more that the Rangers bid. Upton they had no interest in at all.

So yes, most I think agree with you that they will spend money if it is the right amount of money for the right guy. No bidding wars right now.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:37 AM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
 
Not complaining - Obviously glad they may be changing the way they are going to build instead of rebuild the team.
I vehemently disagree with this statement.  They are not "changing their plan", the plan isn't the same tune for the whole song.  It changes as time goes on, and this attempted sign was part of the "plan".
I had suggested going after Sanchez a number of times on this board. You and other vehemently disagreed with the idea because the core was not built and it was too soon to sign long term, expensive deals on a team not ready to compete.

So now you think the team should sign free agents that can help short and long term when available ?
Sanchez is the exception that proves the rule. Theo & Pals were looking to get value. Sanchez for 5 yrs/$75M represents some value. Coming to the NL, with a much better defense behind him, his numbers would probably have improved, making him a decent pickup for that price. Once the price went up, Theo & Pals reached their 'walk away' point and walked away.

Counter this with Darvish and Upton. Darvish was worth it for what the Cubs bid, and not worth it for the $30+M more that the Rangers bid. Upton they had no interest in at all.

So yes, most I think agree with you that they will spend money if it is the right amount of money for the right guy. No bidding wars right now.
Now you say he is the exception to the rule when I have pointed out to you many times that he was the right age / talent level that was worth the Cubs pursuing.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:58 AM

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Everyone asks for a no trade clause....I'm sure Sanchez did too. That's why in most cases players have limited no trade clauses in their contracts.

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msqboxer2011 wrote: Why doesn't Theo just pick up the phone and buy out Garza's last arb year and sign him to the same contract as Sanchez???
Rumor is that Garza wanted a no trade and Theo wouldn't give which stopped extension talks last year

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