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Cubs Interested Korean P

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Posted: 11/8/2012 8:54 PM

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Posted: 11/9/2012 4:11 AM

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I'd really like to see us tap more into this market, and Hyun-Jin Ryu is about the best arm in Korean professional baseball. While it can surely be argued that the Korean professional league is more on par with our high A to AA level play (I've seen several LG Twins/Doosan Bears games in Seoul and would rank it at approx. AA), I think a guy who absolutely dominates the majority of hitters would surely be worth more than 'kicking the tires.' Some more conservative baseball pundits project him maxing out as a bullpen arm, while others believe he would be a 2-4 starter (depending on the team he inks with). If we are lucky enough to have outbid Texas and the other competition, I think he'd be a much better investment than a journeyman stop-gap veteran or an over-priced 'gesture signing' by Theo/Ricketts (which I believe is their 'Plan B' when we fail to attract any of the more marketable guys on the FA market). I hope the brass can make it happen... it won't stop us from losing near or over 100 games next year, but it would constitute another potential building block rotation guy like Samardzija.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 8:25 AM

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The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 2:58 PM

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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:06 PM

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cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:15 PM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
If the winning bid is 20 million and reports show the Cubs bid 5 million then I would say they were not serious and hoping to get a value deal.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:30 PM

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cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
If the winning bid is 20 million and reports show the Cubs bid 5 million then I would say they were not serious and hoping to get a value deal.
Are u then saying they were serious with their Yu bid?
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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:35 PM

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absolutebadger wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
If the winning bid is 20 million and reports show the Cubs bid 5 million then I would say they were not serious and hoping to get a value deal.
Are u then saying they were serious with their Yu bid?
No, 2007 doesn't think they were serious on Darvish because they were like $15-20M below the winning bid, although they were the 2nd highest bid. These were blind bids, so I'm not sure how they were supposed to know what the Rangers would bid, but I am thinking he is basing off the Dice-K bid.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:38 PM

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absolutebadger wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
If the winning bid is 20 million and reports show the Cubs bid 5 million then I would say they were not serious and hoping to get a value deal.
Are u then saying they were serious with their Yu bid?
The Cubs bid was a reported 35 million less than the winning bid so I would not consider it a serious bid. The winning bid was roughly the same as what Theo bid for DiceK so he had an idea what it would take to win a pitcher that was younger, bigger and with more potential.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 4:01 PM

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cubs2007 wrote:
absolutebadger wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
If the winning bid is 20 million and reports show the Cubs bid 5 million then I would say they were not serious and hoping to get a value deal.
Are u then saying they were serious with their Yu bid?
The Cubs bid was a reported 35 million less than the winning bid so I would not consider it a serious bid. The winning bid was roughly the same as what Theo bid for DiceK so he had an idea what it would take to win a pitcher that was younger, bigger and with more potential.
How much do you think the Cubs bid? How much do you think the winning bid was?
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Posted: 11/9/2012 4:07 PM

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absolutebadger wrote:
How much do you think the Cubs bid? How much do you think the winning bid was?

Winning bid 51.7 million
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Posted: 11/9/2012 6:56 PM

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Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS Winning bid on lhp hyun-jin ryu of $25,737,737 accepted by hanwha eagles. Checking on winning mlb team
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Posted: 11/9/2012 6:58 PM

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Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS # cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M
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Posted: 11/9/2012 7:42 PM

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cubs2007 wrote:
absolutebadger wrote:
cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
cubs2007 wrote: The bid had to be in yesterday so should find out next week who the winner is.
Can we agree that the Cubs are/were "serious" on this bid, or were/are they only "serious" if they win it?
If the winning bid is 20 million and reports show the Cubs bid 5 million then I would say they were not serious and hoping to get a value deal.
Are u then saying they were serious with their Yu bid?
The Cubs bid was a reported 35 million less than the winning bid so I would not consider it a serious bid. The winning bid was roughly the same as what Theo bid for DiceK so he had an idea what it would take to win a pitcher that was younger, bigger and with more potential.
It was a serious bid, just not a crazy one like the Rangers.  If multiple people are willing to bid $40,000 on a BMW and one person is willing to pay $100,000 it doesn't mean the other bids weren't serious.  It just means one person was an idiot.


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Posted: 11/9/2012 10:03 PM

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reports are it was the Dodgers.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 10:07 PM

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pjmail wrote: Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS # cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M

Shocking.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 10:11 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
pjmail wrote: Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS # cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M

Shocking.
you're ridiculous. this is a ludicrous bid for a guy who's pretty raw with less upside than some of the other imports.

the initial reports stated the cubs won the bidding, so clearly they were seriously involved.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 10:14 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
pjmail wrote: Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS # cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M

Shocking.

What does this even mean?
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Posted: 11/9/2012 10:19 PM

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cubbyfan25 wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
pjmail wrote: Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS # cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M

Shocking.
you're ridiculous. this is a ludicrous bid for a guy who's pretty raw with less upside than some of the other imports.

the initial reports stated the cubs won the bidding, so clearly they were seriously involved.
I didn't say they weren't.  What's "shocking" about it is they didn't end up with a player they wanted.  It's understandable to not want to offer a player more than he's worth, but in baseball's competitive market sometimes you have to.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 12:41 PM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
cubbyfan25 wrote:
KatieCubFan wrote:
pjmail wrote: Jon Heyman @ JonHeymanCBS # cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M

Shocking.
you're ridiculous. this is a ludicrous bid for a guy who's pretty raw with less upside than some of the other imports.

the initial reports stated the cubs won the bidding, so clearly they were seriously involved.
I didn't say they weren't.  What's "shocking" about it is they didn't end up with a player they wanted.  It's understandable to not want to offer a player more than he's worth, but in baseball's competitive market sometimes you have to.
Cubs outbid philly, Atlanta and the Yanks on Soler. They had the 2nd highest closed bid on Yu. They have to make their bids based on perceived value, not with a win at all costs mentallity.
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