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O;s Scoring at Home vs Away

Posted: 8/4/2014 9:45 PM

O;s Scoring at Home vs Away 


They just made the point on MASN that the O's are averaging almost 2 more runs per game on the road than they are at home.

Isn't OPACY known as a hitters park? This makes no sense to me. If you are at home and a hitting favorable park then you would think it would favor scoring at home. What gives with this?  Two runs/game is huge. Not like its even close.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:52 PM

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ifsteve wrote: They just made the point on MASN that the O's are averaging almost 2 more runs per game on the road than they are at home.

Isn't OPACY known as a hitters park? This makes no sense to me. If you are at home and a hitting favorable park then you would think it would favor scoring at home. What gives with this?  Two runs/game is huge. Not like its even close.

We have a great Road W/L record as well (32-23), only the Dodgers have more Road wins (34).
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Posted: 8/4/2014 11:00 PM

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PSNL05 wrote:
ifsteve wrote: They just made the point on MASN that the O's are averaging almost 2 more runs per game on the road than they are at home.

Isn't OPACY known as a hitters park? This makes no sense to me. If you are at home and a hitting favorable park then you would think it would favor scoring at home. What gives with this?  Two runs/game is huge. Not like its even close.

We have a great Road W/L record as well (32-23), only the Dodgers have more Road wins (34).
The Yankees are tied with us at 32 as well. They are a real pain in the ass.


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Posted: 8/5/2014 12:16 AM

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it's not like the NFL 
I don't really feel like there is much home field adv in MLB
...and don't call me Shirley
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Posted: 8/5/2014 9:44 AM

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DiscoJamal wrote: it's not like the NFL 
I don't really feel like there is much home field adv in MLB
Yet--because of Bud's convoluted All Star game thingy...the last several times the WS went the distance, the home team won it. Some teams seem to flourish at home. Others seem to play better on the road.

Down here on the farm, Rochester has the best home field record in the IL. Conversely they have the worst road record...nearly the worst road record in all of AAA baseball. Sometimes there is no explaining it.

And then there was Scranton, two years ago, when they played their entire season on the road because their stadium was being rebuilt. They won the IL pennant!

Clearly home field in football is a TON more significant for sure. With baseball, its all over the road....noidea
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Posted: 8/5/2014 9:53 AM

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In football the crowd noise is a factor. So you get an advantage at home.

In baseball noise doesn't play a big role.

There are some teams who can create a home field advantage in baseball because of the ballpark they play in. For instance the Yankees have a right field fence that's practically right behind first base. (Witch dimensions blatantly against MLB rules for new ballpark construction, but they are the Yankees so rules don't ever apply to them, but that's an argument for another day) So they stack their line up with left handed power hitters, who can hit homers all day lone with anything that's popped up to right field.  They design their team in the offseason with the short right field porch in mind so they get a home field advantage.

Most visiting teams don't have 7 power hitting lefties they can put in the line up to exploit that stadium feature, so the Yankees get a home field advantage. (God I hate them.)

Most ballparks don't have a feature that like that can be easily exploited for big gains by only one team. Most ballpark features can be easily exploited by the visiting team as well, like the Oakland Coliseum's gigantic foul territory. Any 1st or 3rd baseball can easily learn how to run an extra 15 feet to catch a pop foul. So the A's don't get an advantage.


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Posted: 8/5/2014 9:59 AM

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I've always thought we should try tailor the roster for OPACY 

but I suppose it's easier said than done
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Posted: 8/5/2014 10:02 AM

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Ok some interesting thoughts but not one real shot at explaining the HUGE difference between our run scoring. I get that some teams are just better on the road and that home field advantage is not as big a deal as in football.  But the O's literally score 50% more runs on the road than at home.

This is just plain odd beyond belief. Perhaps there just is no explanation? Or is OPACY not the hitters park I think it is?
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Posted: 8/5/2014 10:45 AM

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Its an odd season for the Birds and OPACY. I think even the visitors #'s are down at OPACY. Hard to explain it really. There is nothing changed from 2013 to 2014 around the stadium, yes? The casino is on the other side of M&T(Ravens(Stadium) so it cant be win knocked down before entering the ballpark  in the openings.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 10:55 AM

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sczepp wrote: Its an odd season for the Birds and OPACY. I think even the visitors #'s are down at OPACY. Hard to explain it really. There is nothing changed from 2013 to 2014 around the stadium, yes? The casino is on the other side of M&T(Ravens(Stadium) so it cant be win knocked down before entering the ballpark  in the openings.

It's cold this summer.

That's the difference.

Not hypothermia cold, but certainly cold for July and August. And the humidity has been low all summer as well.

A baseball goes further in hot humid air than it does in cold dry air.

See this simple explanation of why without a lot of scientific jargon
http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/285/

Here is a more technical answer about the humidity and the effect on the ball for the geeks out there
http://www.exploratorium.edu/s...rts_august.html

But our local weather isn't happening everywhere across the nation. Other cities are hot and humid like a normal summer. So the Orioles are hitting better on the road.

This doesn't affect seeing eye singles or bloop hits to the shallow outfield. This affects home runs and doubles to the gaps. The Orioles are built around power hitting, not singles, so the difference they see in warm climates is more pronounced for them than it might be for other teams.


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Posted: 8/5/2014 11:01 AM

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DiscoJamal wrote: I've always thought we should try tailor the roster for OPACY 

but I suppose it's easier said than done

Oriole Park doesn't lend itself to tailoring the line up to optimize the ballpark.

The right field wall is close to the plate, but its' also 20 feet high, negating the distance. The left field wall and centerfield are normal distances for a park. So there's nothing really to exploit. You can't stack the line up with lefties because right field isn't easier to homer to than other places in the league because of the out of town scoreboard. Can't stack it with righties because left field isn't abnormal.

It's a hitters park (in a normal hot summer) so you can tailor your line up by stacking it with power guys, but you'd probably want to do that anyway.


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Posted: 8/5/2014 12:06 PM

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Skip thanks for the explanation. Weather being cooler could certainly be a cause. This is also why I am concerned about the makeup of this team come the postseason......cooler weather ....tougher to hit the long ball. Now last night they actually had  two innings where they strung some base hits together that didn't leave the park. biggrin
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Posted: 8/5/2014 12:36 PM

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It has been a mild summer 

(not complaining)

I've alway thought the O's should focus more on SInker Ball/Ground ball pitchers vs taking advantage of the short porch

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Posted: 8/5/2014 12:36 PM

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think I mentioned before that our local sports guru was dissing Davis' HR exploits last year because he felt OPACY was a 'bandbox' where HR's just flew out with reckless abandon. Clearly he didn't do his homework on many levels...not the least of which was that Davis hit a lot of his HR's on the road and that OPACY last year was NOT a good park for HR's.

I agree about the old Yankee Stadium especially. Clearly an advantage for them, as if they ever needed one.

Here in Rochester we have a 'homerun unfriendly' park. There is an area in left-center we call 'death valley'...where normal HR's go to die. It has been suggested every year since 1997 when the park opened that the fences be moved in, but so far to no avail. This season the Wings leading HR hitter has 8. Pretty sad. Our old ballpark, built in 1929 had a monster scoreboard in CF that was like 65 feet high and 415 feet away. Not too many ever hit one over that monstrosity. Two come to mind...Mack Jones and Luke Easter. there is one more I know I saw, but name escapes me.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 1:19 PM

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We will see what happens at the Dome in Toronto.
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