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O's get Andrew Miller from Red Sox

Posted: 7/31/2014 3:46 PM

O's get Andrew Miller from Red Sox 


This needed it's own thread...

Gave up Eduardo Rodriguez -- #3 prospect in pre season lists
Losers whine about their best...... Winners go home and        %##%# the prom queen.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:58 PM

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Great trade!

With all the players above Eduardo Rodriguez in the pecking order, he was definitely expendable considering he was able to bring the Orioles back such a good piece in Andrew Miller, a dominant lefty reliever able to help them RIGHT NOW in a sorely needed area. Rodriguez probably wouldn't even be ready for Baltimore until mid- to late-2015 as it is. Miller will be able to contribute meaningfully for the next year-plus (assuming the Orioles re-sign him next season, as he will be a free agent), time Rodriguez wouldn't be contributing to the big league club. That aspect, in and of itself, makes this trade even more valuable since such a gaping hole has been filled by such a good player for that role.

I love the trade. It will really help the Orioles big-time.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 4:10 PM

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I'd have sisco and walker over Rodriguez right now. I like trade because it helps to shorten the game.

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Posted: 7/31/2014 4:12 PM

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I like this trade.

It's giving up a minor leaguer who's never pitched
higher than double A and who's posted an ERA above 4 for the past 2 years at
that level with a strikeout to walk ratio under 2.5:1

And for that they
get a 6 foot 7 lefty who's throwing a 2.34 ERA this year with a less than
impressive defense behind him, with a strike out to walk ratio above 5. His WHIP
is under 1. Hitters are an anemic .168 against him this year. He's given up only
2 HR's in 42 innings this year.

And did I mention he's 6 foot 7 and left
handed? Do you know how hard it is to face a 6 foot 7 lefty?

He's not
been used as a full inning guy based on his appearances to innings pitched
ratio. So he's probably going to be used as a 2 out replacement in the 7th or as
a 'get out of jail free' card with runners on in a dangerous spot.

The
guy has "The batters that face me will make outs" written all over him.


The Orioles bullpen needs this guy this year.

Eduardo Rodriguez
is in his 5th year as a professional and hasn't played in AAA a day in his life.
He might have a career ahead of him, but it won't be in 2015, and probably not
2016. And we all know how unreliable prospects in baseball are. Some 100th round
picks end up as major league starters. Some can't miss prospects never see the
major leagues.

The Orioles have a chance to win this year. Miller helps
with that. To get him they give up a guy who MIGHT help them win 2-3 years from
now, maybe.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 7:35 PM

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good trade. I'm surprised they didn't do more...but they must figure they have the horses.
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Posted: 8/1/2014 1:38 AM

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Part of me wants to say that we might have sold Rodriguez at his lowest value but at the same time, this is a still a solid trade for us. I'd said a few times that the bullpen was gonna be the biggest weakness for us and not only did we get a left handed reliever, but one that can get players out from BOTH sides of the plate.
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Posted: 8/1/2014 7:46 AM

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I have no problems with giving up a guy that at best is a BOR guy.

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Posted: 8/1/2014 11:05 AM

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It's a nice frugal trade. A slight upgrade without giving up a prospect we truly covet.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 6:43 PM

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Check out Andrew Miller's stats since becoming a full-time reliever:



If you scale it to 60 IP, which is roughly the innings Miller should ideally be throwing per year, here would be his stats based on the 2012-2014 sample size:

74 games
60 IP
40 hits
20 runs
18 ER
4 HR
88 K
26 BB
2.74 ERA
1.12 WHIP
.162 BAA

And you'd have to assume he'd have a lot more holds considering the O's brought him in to be the left-handed set-up man. I'd say he could lead the team in holds next year if he remains in Baltimore solely due to the fact that he's a lefty and could be used a few more times than righties due to the fact that he can be brought in to face just one batter.

I really think if he maintains this kind of pitching, considering he's still only 29, he could be a nice player to lock up for the next 3 years at around $20m.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 7:13 PM

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I think Buck alluded to Miller having a lot of value for the Left-Right-Left situations you face, he's the kind of guy you can leave in there because he's good against right handed hitters as well. Miller is a huge pick-up, but it will be tremendous if we can ink him to after the season.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 8:50 PM

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PSNL05 wrote: I think Buck alluded to Miller having a lot of value for the Left-Right-Left situations you face, he's the kind of guy you can leave in there because he's good against right handed hitters as well. Miller is a huge pick-up, but it will be tremendous if we can ink him to after the season.
That's correct. Batters are hitting below .200 from both sides of the plate against Miller so Buck doesn't always have to go to a pitcher just because a player bats from one side of the plate or the other.
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