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Baltimore Orioles vs Oakland Athletics [L-W-L]

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Posted: 7/17/2014 9:17 PM

Baltimore Orioles vs Oakland Athletics [L-W-L] 


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Posted: 7/17/2014 10:27 PM

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Well I guess we will find out how JS is thinking about the O's not going after him! Hopefully we smoke him but both JS and Hammel have extra incentive for the next two games.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 11:15 PM

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we match up so badly against Oakland to begin with. O's will have to be exceptional to derail this hard charging train of A's.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 8:38 AM

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I think these will be tight games  - we need to take at least 1, 2 would be a minor miracle
...and don't call me Shirley
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Posted: 7/18/2014 10:28 AM

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We match up even worse against Oakland in Oakland. The Orioles live and die by the home run. And this is a hard place to hit home runs.

The Orioles are going to have to learn to capitalize on doubles to those 367 distances in the power allys. So far this year that's been a major shortcoming. They'll hit one, but can't follow up with a second to drive in the runner.

Not getting swept here is an accomplishment.

Worry about facing them in the playoffs is a worry for a later day.

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Posted: 7/18/2014 10:33 AM

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Geezz, I hope you guys are wrong!

 

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Posted: 7/18/2014 11:30 AM

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It is a horrible stadium, and if memory serves they a huge amount of foul ground too.

and they're choosing to stay theretoo.
...and don't call me Shirley
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Posted: 7/18/2014 11:51 AM

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DiscoJamal wrote: It is a horrible stadium, and if memory serves they a huge amount of foul ground too.

and they're choosing to stay theretoo.

There is a huge amount of foul ground.

Here is the field set up for baseball as seem from the air (The only satellite image I could find had it in the middle of being converted to football)
http://www.metlists.com/venues...eecoliseum2.jpg

Here is Oriole Park from space for comparison. (Oriole Park has normal foul territory)
http://mlblogscookandsonbats.f...20satellite.jpg

And there for fun here's Fenway Park which has the least amount of foul ground

http://edu214unlv.pbworks.com/...enwayaerial.jpg


Most of the multipurpose stadiums that were used in the 70's, 80's and 90's where the football field was place using one of the foul lines as the sideline, so the endzone would be from 3rd base to home plate on one end, and out in left field at the other end.

Here's an example from Miami
http://blogs.westword.com/late...ball%20dirt.jpg


In Oakland though the football field runs across the baseball field so that the end zones are almost all in foul territory. To fit the football field this way the foul ground in baseball has to be huge.

Here's a picture.
http://static6.businessinsider...co-coliseum.jpg

In other words...the Oakland stadium is poorly thought out and even more poorly executed. It's a bad football stadium because the 'good seats' at mid field in the upper deck on one side of the stadium are 200 feet back from the field. Same for the end zones. It's a horrible baseball stadium for many many reasons. All in all it's a dump that has far outlived it's usefulness. (From what I understand you won't find too many people in Oakland who will argue with me about this)

And here's a fun piece of trivia, since the Marlins moved to their own place a few years ago, Oakland is not the only duel purpose stadium left that hosts both the NFL and MLB.


Totally unrelated but fun...Another piece of fun trivia along those lines of "things that are now rare that never should have happened in the first place" is that there are only 2 artificial surfaces left in major league baseball. Both are in the American League East. Toronto and Tampa are the only two astro turf fields left. Toronot's is the only field left without the all dirt infield. And soon that will be a thing of the past as I am to understand that Toronoto will be installing grass at SkyDome or Rodgers Centre or whatever it's called in 2-3 years.

Last edited 7/18/2014 12:00 PM by Skipjacks

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Posted: 7/18/2014 11:54 AM

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yeah--but will Bud let them stay there? Back in the 70's when I lived out there and the Seals were still playing next door (NHL) we always referred to the A's stad as the 'Oakland-Alameda Masoleum'. It was a gray dump back then and I haven't heard much good about it lately either.
A's are a tough team to play. They don't appear to be as good as they really are...but they have some major skill on that roster. So do we.

O's shouldn't give them too much respect. Just go out there and play like a first place team. Attitude will help. Middle of our lineup has been striking out a lot lately. They will need to make more contact while on the Coast.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 11:58 AM

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Skipjacks wrote:
DiscoJamal wrote: It is a horrible stadium, and if memory serves they a huge amount of foul ground too.

and they're choosing to stay theretoo.

There is a huge amount of foul ground.

Most of the multipurpose stadiums that were used in the 70's, 80's and 90's where the football field was place using one of the foul lines as the sideline, so the endzone would be from 3rd base to home plate on one end, and out in left field at the other end.

Here's an example from Miami
http://blogs.westword.com/late...ball%20dirt.jpg


In Oakland though the football field runs across the baseball field so that the end zones are almost all in foul territory. To fit the football field this way the foul ground in baseball has to be huge.

Here's a picture.
http://static6.businessinsider...co-coliseum.jpg

In other words...the Oakland stadium is poorly thought out and even more poorly executed. It's a bad football stadium because the 'good seats' at mid field in the upper deck on one side of the stadium are 200 feet back from the field. Same for the end zones. It's a horrible baseball stadium for many many reasons. All in all it's a dump that has far outlived it's usefulness. (From what I understand you won't find too many people in Oakland who will argue with me about this)

And here's a fun piece of trivia, since the Marlins moved to their own place a few years ago, Oakland is not the only duel purpose stadium left that hosts both the NFL and MLB.


Totally unrelated but fun...Another piece of fun trivia along those lines of "things that are now rare that never should have happened in the first place" is that there are only 2 artificial surfaces left in major league baseball. Both are in the American League East. Toronto and Tampa are the only two astro turf fields left. Toronot's is the only field left without the all dirt infield. And soon that will be a thing of the past as I am to understand that Toronoto will be installing grass at SkyDome or Rodgers Centre or whatever it's called in 2-3 years.
you meant to say 'now' the only place with dual purpose....correct?
Astroturf...an idea whose time came and went. I remember how many careers were cut short because of the rock hard cement playing surface in Montreal. It was horrible. I can't imagine how players would dive after fly balls with that playing surface. Plus the painted lines infield also sucked in those ballparks...with the little squares of dirt around the bags. Ugh.
Oakland, outside of the Raiders, is a poor sports town. always has been.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 12:07 PM

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insagt1 wrote:
 
you meant to say 'now' the only place with dual purpose....correct?
Astroturf...an idea whose time came and went. I remember how many careers were cut short because of the rock hard cement playing surface in Montreal. It was horrible. I can't imagine how players would dive after fly balls with that playing surface. Plus the painted lines infield also sucked in those ballparks...with the little squares of dirt around the bags. Ugh.
Oakland, outside of the Raiders, is a poor sports town. always has been.
Yeah, that's why I said it was the only duel purpose stadium LEFT after Miami moved out of theirs a few years ago. (Though with the Marlins and Dolphins being the tenants at that stadium one might argue that was a ZERO purpose stadium, not a multi purpose)

As for Astroturf...it's a lot different than it was 10-15 years ago. If you've ever been on the field at Ravens Stadium you'd know what I mean. It feels like you are walking on grass and dirt. There is a cushioned layer under the 'grass' that takes away that hard concrete feel. Toronto was one of the first to use that new kind of turf technology when SkyDome opened in the early 90's, though the top surface in Toronto was still a crappy carpet like surface similar to what you might find on a miniature golf course. I think they've improved the top surface since then.

Tampa has a true 'replica grass' surface that looks and plays like grass, even though its' not grass. I think this is more of what Toronto has now. None of this pop up to shallow left field that bounces so high it clears the fence for a ground rule double nonsense like you used to see in Montreal or Pittsburgh.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 2:05 PM

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I believe The Ralph in Buffalo has some form of artificial turf...that looks just like the real thing...except its way to green!!
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Posted: 7/18/2014 2:14 PM

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insagt1 wrote: I believe The Ralph in Buffalo has some form of artificial turf...that looks just like the real thing...except its way to green!!

I think about half of the NFL stadiums have artificial turf these days. It's been increasingly popular for football over the past 20 years.

But Tampa and Toronto are the only baseball stadiums that still have it as it's been on the declined for 20 years.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 10:32 PM

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Can't watch so not sure what happened. But Davis singled and then got thrown out trying to steal second???eek1

That isn't the way to beat the A's.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 10:34 PM

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so Davis gets thrown out at 2nd...and Hardy follows it up with what would have been an RBI single. Then the fans really let Manny have it when he came up. Pretty much booing for most of the AB. All kinds of signs; Manny Injury Report: HURT FEELINGS. And pictures of him with tape over his mouth.
should be a fun series.
O's miss out on a nice scoring chance in the 2nd.

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Posted: 7/18/2014 11:04 PM

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drat--A's draw first blood with two out rally. 1-0.
Come on O's....
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Posted: 7/18/2014 11:10 PM

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heart of our lineup looked like little leaguers in the 4th. this one may indeed get away.
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Posted: 7/19/2014 12:22 AM

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I hope they keep booing Manny. He seems to respond positively to it.

I notice these left coast goofballs don't seem to be booing their pitching for beaning ANOTHER 2 Orioles. I'm a little surprised the umpire didn't issue a warning after the first hit batsman after all the drama these teams have had so far this season.

Of course, the A's have proven themselves to not be subject to any penalties this year. They can throw at anyone they want, charge the field from the dugouts and bullpens, attack players on the field....and nothing happens. So I guess I'm not shocked.

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Posted: 7/19/2014 12:43 AM

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Gawd awful outing by Brittan. Throws the game down the toilet. Three batters, three hits, three runs. O's choke it big time.
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Posted: 7/19/2014 12:46 AM

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That loss was BS.

The 3rd and 4th runs were total garbage crap. A check swing hit and a lucky ass broken bat hit.

Screw these California whiny crybaby "That mean old Machado yelled at us" losers. These phonies are totally beatable. This team is garbage in a crap division and can be taken down.

Unfortunately this loss is going to hurt the Orioles. This team came out hard charging ready to win and they failed. We'll see what kind of heart they have tomorrow to bounce back from that.

There needs to be a high hard fastball to the first batter tomorrow night to put him on his butt. They can't be allowed to hit two batters (now FOUR on the season) with impunity. Of course if an Oriole hits one of their batters he'll get suspended for a month.

The A's should have lost their starter to ejection early. Not getting tossed after hitting two batters after the last game these two played was a joke.

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