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Rotation Questions

Posted: 7/16/2014 9:06 PM

Rotation Questions 


With the break nearly over, Buck is going to have some serious questions about the Orioles rotation going forward.  Luckily, for him and the O's, he won't have to make that decision right away with Ubaldo shelved.  However, once he is back, someone is going to have to get the boot, unless he makes an unprecedented decision and runs with a 6 man rotation.  These things have a way of working itself out, but there is no harm in trying to predict the end result.  

I think it ultimately comes down to either Gonzalez or Chen being moved to the pen, and my guess is Gonzalez.  Jimenez is the prized free agent, and historically has that second half surge we have all heard so much about.  It will take another string of poor outings for him to lose his spot.  Tillman is obviously safe, and Gausman has been our best pitcher as of late, giving up 1 run or less in 5 of his 7 starts.  If Buck continues to send him through the revolving door to the minors I will be very upset.  He should be safe.  Norris should be locked in as well.  There was a lot of talk about moving him to the pen, and even the closers role, before the season began.  Then he pitched arguably better than any of the other 4 that began the year in the rotation.  He still holds the lowest ERA of the 4, though not by a wide margin, as well as the lowest batting average against at just .237, and WHIP at 1.19.  Impressive numbers for a non strikeout pitcher.  

So it comes down to Chen and Gonzalez.  Looking at the numbers, it is hard to really differentiate the two.  The only real glaring difference I can see is the walk numbers.  Chen has walked just 18 batters this year in 18 starts, which has led to a decent difference in WHIP over Gonzalez.  Despite a slightly higher ERA, he also managed a much better record at 9-3.  My bid would go for Chen to remain in the rotation, mainly for the walk numbers, unless Gonzo can proves he can last longer than Chen.  Both have routinely pitched around the 6 inning mark until Gonzalez's last two outings of 8 innings.

We also cannot discount the trade deadline.  The O's could certainly improve upon this group, the question is if Duquette feels the need to.  I'm not sure if there is a guy available that would greatly improve this rotation besides Price, and we all know that won't happen.  

So my question to you guys is, what would you do?

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Posted: 7/16/2014 9:59 PM

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Why not do a couple turns through with 6 starters? Nowhere does it say we have to have 5 and I think guys like Chen and Gonzo really benefit from an extra day off in between starts.


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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:25 PM

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sheaitisnotso wrote: Why not do a couple turns through with 6 starters? Nowhere does it say we have to have 5 and I think guys like Chen and Gonzo really benefit from an extra day off in between starts.

Might be worth a shot. The question though is how does it affect the guys who like to stay in the 5 man routine?
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:26 PM

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Though W-L is not a real reliable marker....it would be hard to imagine sending a starter with a 9-3 record to the pen. O's might use a 6 man---specially since they are having so much trouble getting innings out of their starters.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:59 PM

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A 6 man rotation can be a short term fix, especially considering the Orioles have some long stretches of games in the 2nd half. I can't see that lasting too long, though.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 1:17 AM

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I don't think Buck is interested in doing the 6 man rotation. Only time it was brought up was because Johan Santana would have been called and it meant making sure he would get plenty of rest between starts and not risk hurting him.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 9:03 AM

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I think they'll go 6 man for awhile.  or maybe Migo or Chen gets thrown in to trade
...and don't call me Shirley
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Posted: 7/17/2014 9:15 AM

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If they are going to try it, right after the break would be a great time to implement it considering the ringer the team is about to face on the West Coast trip. Playing .500 ball out there would be good.

O's need to go 40-28 to hit 92 wins the second half, which may not be required depending on how the division breaks, but it can't hurt to get to 90+ as soon as possible.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 11:01 AM

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Well with Ubaldo out for a couple more weeks the possible 6 man rotation wouldn't take place until then, so it'll be the 5 man out west.


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If they are going to try it, right after the break would be a great time to implement it considering the ringer the team is about to face on the West Coast trip. Playing .500 ball out there would be good.

O's need to go 40-28 to hit 92 wins the second half, which may not be required depending on how the division breaks, but it can't hurt to get to 90+ as soon as possible.

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