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Machado suspension upheld

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Posted: 6/30/2014 12:53 PM

Machado suspension upheld 


He will begin serving it tonight.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:20 PM

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In its entirety? Meaning all 5 games?

WTF? I've never seen a suspension upheld completely. Even major transgressions committed by repeat offenders have their smaller than 5 game suspensions reduced all the time!

Pitchers routinely get suspended for basically doing exactly what Manny did (throwing equipment at someone) and they get 5 game suspensions only because it will cause them to miss 1 start. This doesn't seem like equal application of the punishment here.

Alex Rodriguez got a reduction and he broke multiple rules, cheated, and was personally involved with a cover up, not to mention lied to MLB investigators, and he got a reduction!

David Ortiz has PERSONALLY caused or dramatically contributed to no less than THREE full scale brawls this season alone and he hasn't so much as been mentioned for ANY possible disciplinary action.

This is a crock.

The Orioles should sue the league over this. (Which is actually something Peter Angelos might be good at regarding this team)


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Last edited 6/30/2014 1:24 PM by Skipjacks

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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:22 PM

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I'm kind of surprised they didn't knock a game off - he is a 1st time offender
though it was a pretty childish thing to do
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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:31 PM

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Can they replace that spot or do they play with a 24 man roster?
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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:50 PM

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Also, what about the pitcher who clearly threw 2 pitchers aimed right at Machado's bad knee? Those were absolutely intentional bean balls with intent to cause injury. (The pitcher had very strong control prior to that then put 2 within inches of the knee Machado is known to still be nursing. When you are trying to plunk a guy you're supposed to go for the body.)

The umpire thought it was intentional and the pitcher was ejected immediately.

No suspension for him? That seems ridiculous. Manny's reaction of throwing the bat was childish, but probably just a heat of the moment stupid decision made in a half a second. The pitcher's actions were clearly premeditated as revenge for the incident at 2nd base 2 nights before, and he took 2 chances to try and injure Machado. That seems worse to me.

And what about the A's catcher who felt the need to stand up and start a little shouting/pushing match with Machado at the plate? He wasn't even ejected. He basically escalated it from a childish event that the umpires had well in control into something that was worse.

And how about the A's player/coach (I can't tell who it is in the video) who left the dugout specifically to run into to field and start shoving Machado in the field of play? Any suspension for that guy? The guy who turned a shouting/pushing contest into a bench clearing brawl? Seems like that sort of thing would merit at least a 1 game suspension, but nope. Not a word from baseball. (Props to Oriole first base coach Kirby who ran in all the way from 1st base to tackle this A's player/coach Ray Lewis style. That was a solid hit by Kirby and might I say, well done.)

I want to know why there is so much inconsistency with this suspension. 40 some odd guys involved in a bench clearly brawl and only 1 gets suspended? And the suspension seems inconsistent with other suspensions handed out for similar incidents? Something doesn't smell right here.


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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:50 PM

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Yep, all 5. And just think, Abad didn't get a single game after he intentionally threw at Machado. Apparently the Orioles organization is extremely pissed about this. 

As for the spot, Weeks has been in the area so I'm guessing that he can be put on the roster as the 25th man and Machado would just be exempt.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:02 PM

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totally surprised there wasn't some leniency.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:06 PM

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In a way I'm not really totally surprised. Lately MLB has been trying to crack down on infractions of many kind and try to make sure players are held accountable. Just sucks that Machado had to be made the whipping boy and Abad didn't get jack sh*t.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:06 PM

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Michael Alamanzar has been activated. The 2nd coming of Ryan Flaherty. Ugh. Another Rule V pick to bat .100.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:12 PM

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stephenjames1979 wrote: Yep, all 5. And just think, Abad didn't get a single game after he intentionally threw at Machado. Apparently the Orioles organization is extremely pissed about this. 

TWICE! He threw at him, clearly aiming for Machado's bad knee, TWICE!

The Orioles will be in Oakland in about 2 and a half weeks. It'd be a shame if a pitch were to slip out of someone's hands and strike an A's player. I'd weep openly.



I would also like to know why MLB allows bench clearing brawls. And make no mistake, they explicitly allow it. There is no rule against charging the field from the bench. And no one has ever had any disciplinary action taken for leaving the bench to charge the field. (Players have been disciplined for their actions once they reach the field. Throwing punches, etc. But NEVER for charging onto the field)

It's not like charging the field is innocent if you just run out there and shout and scream. That's not okay. It adds tension to an already tense situation and greatly increases the likelihood of actual punches being thrown, even if the punches are thrown by someone else.

I think leaving the dugout to start or join any altercation on the field should be an AUTOMATIC 3 game suspension without appeal. (10 games for starting pitchers to ensure they miss at least 1 start) Hockey does this. It's an automatic 1 game suspension. You cannot appeal it. You leave the bench to join a fight and you sit out the next game. Period. And that's a sport that allows fighting!

As for this nonsense with players leaving the bullpen to join fights, that should be an automatic 10 game suspension with no appeal. No need for an appeal. It's clear that you left the bullpen. It's clear that you had no legitimate reason to do so. Maybe the same thing for outfielders. Touch the infield dirt and you're out for 10 games too. You are 200 feet away from any altercation in the infield (at the closest) there is no reason for you to get any closer. Your team already outnumbers the batter by 6 to 1 in the infield. They don't need you too.

But in this incident, the entire A's dugout cleared. The entire A's bullpen cleared. All to attack 1 guy with a bad knee that their pitcher was trying to injure. But not a single one of them got a suspension? That's total BS


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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:12 PM

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Mentioned in the other thread but he was DFA. Still trying to wrap my head around that since I thought he was supposed to have been offered back to Boston.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:16 PM

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Yep. Activated Alamanzar. Likely working out a cash deal with Boston to sitck him in the minors.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/baltimore-orioles
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:17 PM

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stephenjames1979 wrote: MLB has been trying to crack down on infractions of many kind

I'm sure this was a typo. But it does seem accurate anyway.

They do seem to be coming down hard on Manny more than other players with similar (or worse) infractions.

The media response has been overly harsh to Manny as well. Much more than they are with the hundreds of other players who have done stupid stuff, including the pitcher who was intentionally trying to injure him.

Again, David Ortiz has never been suspended to my knowledge. Last year he nearly killed Dustin Pedroia while destroying Maryland Stadium Authority property. He received a paltry $5,000 fine THAT HE APPEALED. Watch that video again. Pedroia was curled into the fetal position legitimately fearful for his life, because 1 slip of Ortiz's little steroid induced temper tantrum would have ended tiny little Dustin and shards of telephone were flying at his head. Police would have been 100% justified in arresting him for destruction of public property and willful endangerment of others. But it's David Ortiz, so we'll just give a token fine. He's allowed to break stuff, use steroids, nearly kill people, start fights, leave the bench to join fights, drop the F bomb when addressing 40,000 Fenway fans while on national TV, and do pretty much anything else it's royal fatness wants to do with impunity.

But Manny Machado has a poor reaction to someone intentionally trying to injure him, but doesn't actually cause any damage or strike anyone, and the league suddenly has to come down hard on him and bench him fro a week? That's ridiculous.

Until David Ortiz is suspended for his transgressions this season, I don't recognize this Machado suspension as fair. I'm not saying Manny should be off the hook. But I don't think it's unreasonable to except suspensions to be handed out consistently.


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Posted: 6/30/2014 3:21 PM

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sczepp wrote: Yep. Activated Alamanzar. Likely working out a cash deal with Boston to sitck him in the minors.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/baltimore-orioles
looks like I won't be seeing him tonite then. Maybe Flaherty will show up in a Tides uni!! (I'll be sure and boo him if he does!cool
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