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Send Ubaldo To AAA

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Posted: 6/8/2014 5:30 PM

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Anyone in Norfolk can pitch better than this bum.  I knew it was a terrible signing.

howdy
-verycoolnin

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Posted: 6/8/2014 6:24 PM

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He is certainly pitching like crap. But the problem is so are most of the staff. Go look at the stats on the pitching thread. Pretty sad picture.

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Posted: 6/8/2014 6:49 PM

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The whole team is sputtering right now. Everything seems out of synch. Pitching for sure is lousy. But some of our reliable 'd' has been messing up. And the hitting and baserunning has been all over the place.
I'm not satisfied with .500. Thats regressing. I'm not in the 'wait till next year' mode anymore either. We played that game for a decade. Its stale.

Time to shake things up. Have no idea how.....thats managements assignment.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 7:50 PM

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That's not going to happen

maybe he gets spun to the Bullpen at some point
...stay classy 'skins fans
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Posted: 6/8/2014 8:01 PM

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Starting to get a little worried about Ubaldo.  I do not think he has it upstairs.  Seems very timid and passive and does not seem to be sharp mentally.  This could turn out  to be a very bad signing for the O's.  Also have to wonder how it is affecting the clubhouse because of the " OK, we signed this guy because why?"  frustration.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 10:23 PM

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His thing is Colorado was that he threw upper 90s.  I thought we signed him because he threw hard.  He hardly throws harder than 91 MPH.

howdy
-verycoolnin

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Posted: 6/9/2014 9:15 AM

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Classic case of the orioles coaching staff trying to fix a guy that isn't broken by 'improving' his pitch selection and changing speeds.

They should just let Ubaldo go his thing
...stay classy 'skins fans
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Posted: 6/9/2014 9:22 AM

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Watched Ubaldo for two and a half years pitching in Cleveland and I know your frustration for sure. Really, by the time the Indians got him in July, 2011 he was not throwing that hard anymore. He was horrid right up to about June of last year, when he really seemed to find himself. Seemed like pitching coach Mickey Callway got through to him. He was outstanding the second half of last year, right to the point that the Indians did submit a qualifying offer of 14 million, which he rejected. I find that somewhat ironic, because the Indians did not do the same for Scott Kazmir, who they were afraid would take it. And now it certainly looks like Kazmir is worth what the money the A's gave him (he is still an injury risk, though, I think). Ubaldo..not so much.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 10:04 AM

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thanks for the insight!! Always good to hear how fans of the loyal opposition view ex players.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 10:56 AM

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Thanks for dropping over. Kazmir went door knocking on Duquette's door at the GM meeting. I was thinking it was worth a 1 year deal but they went elsewhere as did 28 other teams. The Orioles where hoping to catch the same luck the indians did with Kazmir with Johan Santana. Right up until Friday they where on target to see what he could do. As for Ubaldo like Tillman he seems to come and go with hitting his target. I dont know if its a mechanical issue but right now for both Ubaldo and Tillman they are thinking to much. Its now personal. They need to relax and enjoy the game.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 11:41 AM

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I am no pitching coach, but it seemed to me that Calloway was able to simplify all of Ubaldo's moving parts last year, and as a result, his walks dramatically decreased. I was at the game yesterday, and he resembled that other Ubaldo, the one that had trouble throwing strikes. The O's have a good pitching coach, and I am sure he will get Ubaldo back to at least a good ML pitcher. I don't think, though, he will ever be the flame thrower he was with the Rockies.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:03 PM

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Not a fan of him either. Is what it is. Maybe he will come on strong second half. Maybe not.

Good news is that Gausman playing much better can really offset. Still have some options at Triple A also.
verycoolnin wrote: Anyone in Norfolk can pitch better than this bum.  I knew it was a terrible signing.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:15 PM

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Jimenez is going to be pitching every 5 days for the next 3.5 years. Might as well get used to it.

I wanted to tear my hair out watching him walk the bases loaded last game. But at some point soon he's going to rattle off a string of starts that makes you want to put his name on the Cy Young ballot. It's just the way he is.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 7:42 PM

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I am sure Buck's patience is wearing thin with Ubaldo.  At same point he has to be sent down.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 8:35 PM

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1. I am not sure you can even send Jimenez down if we wanted to.

2. Who are you brining up from AAA to replace him?

3. Are you going to send Tillman down too? He has been just as bad.


PS - Jimenez just threw a quality start. Now if the team could give him some run support....

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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:14 PM

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For  a guy that signed a $50 million contract, he is not getting it done.  He will be sent down by the end of the month. Trust me Einstein  
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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:20 PM

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koolaidred wrote: For  a guy that signed a $50 million contract, he is not getting it done.  He will be sent down by the end of the month. Trust me Einstein  

rolleyes
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Posted: 6/14/2014 9:25 AM

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koolaidred wrote: For  a guy that signed a $50 million contract, he is not getting it done.  He will be sent down by the end of the month. Trust me Einstein  
No need for ad hominems. Ubaldo can't even be sent to AAA without his permission or putting him through waivers so it's a non-issue.

This is not an up-to-date representation of the current options situation but it's worth taking a look at:

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Posted: 6/14/2014 10:18 AM

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His performance June 13th against Toronto.....

Jimenez walked three of the first eight batters he faced tonight but settled down and went on to have a good outing. He pitched six innings and gave up three hits and two runs with five walks and two strikeouts.

They are calling it a Quality Start.

 

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Posted: 6/14/2014 10:39 AM

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Just an aside...

On the topic of Quality Starts, people focus too much on the word "quality" and get all uppity when a particular start, such as the one Jimenez had last night, is labeled as "quality."

Obviously it is never "good quality" to walk five batters. It is, however, "good quality" to complete at least six innings and allow no more than three earned runs, as is the minimum requirement of a QS. Yes, quality starts are not created equal; Ubaldo's was a QS, as is a perfect game. It's up to the individual to decide if a given start truly is great quality.

The point is the Quality Start is a useful standard by which to label a given start.

Anyways...

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