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Texas SS Problem (Make a Move?) - Idea, Not Rumor

Posted: 2/12/2013 10:30 AM

Texas SS Problem (Make a Move?) - Idea, Not Rumor 


ESPN Insider Article "Indications Andrus Will Be Traded"

Discusses Jurickson Profar and how it doesn't seem he will be shifting positions anytime soon, which would lead to the shifting of positions (or teams) of Kinsler or Andrus.

I don't think I'd mind parting with Bundy or Gausman for Andrus.. Would mean we'd have an infield from 3rd to 1st of Machado, Hardy/Andrus, Andrus, Hardy, and Davis..

I also wouldn't mind parting ways with next-tier guy(s) for Kinsler at 2B..

What do you guys think? The article mentions starting pitching as an area of need for them.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 10:41 AM

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I like the infield with Machado/Hardy/Andrus/Davis but not sure I would give up Bundy (and maybe Gausmann) for Andrus.  I think I would lean more toward a different trade bait or perhaps go after Kinsler.  Ian is already a 2b and would come at a cheaper price than Andrus.  Andrus would be a good addition but his bat doesn't offer what we are currently missing in a true #4 hitter. If we were to trade Bundy then I would want more than Andrus.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:05 PM

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Any idea what their contract lengths are?

I smell tacos...

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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:19 PM

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Andrus is under contract through 2014.

Kinsler's contract expires the end of this year but he is under Ranger control through 2016.

In looking at their stats I think I would prefer Kinsler. Not quite as high an average but close, a little less speed, but much more power.

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Posted: 2/12/2013 8:59 PM

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Don't love the idea. I don't think 2 years of Elvis Andrus is worth the best pitching prospect in baseball. Especially with Hardy, Casilla, Machado, Flaherty, and Schoop in the mix for SS/2B. It's not a weakness for us. Also, we've got Bundy through 2019 I believe. 5 years longer than we'd have Andrus. I'm very confident that he can provide more value through 2019 than Andrus could in 2 years. Duquette thinks he's the best at developing prospects. Let's see it then.

Also, Kevin Gausman is not eligible to be traded. Players can't be traded until a year after they were drafted.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:50 AM

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dmason85 wrote: Don't love the idea. I don't think 2 years of Elvis Andrus is worth the best pitching prospect in baseball. Especially with Hardy, Casilla, Machado, Flaherty, and Schoop in the mix for SS/2B. It's not a weakness for us.
Dmason, respectfully..

If a team has Casilla, Flaherty, Schoop in the mix for starting MIF, then hopefully that is a weaker part of your team or else your team is NOT going to be very good.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:26 PM

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camdenbird wrote:
Dmason, respectfully..

If a team has Casilla, Flaherty, Schoop in the mix for starting MIF, then hopefully that is a weaker part of your team or else your team is NOT going to be very good.
I like Casilla as a stopgap actually. Some excellent defense will make up for the fact that he doesn't hit well. There's more than one way to help a ball club. I wouldn't turn down 20 SB either.

Your inclusion of Schoop in that list is confusing. I wasn't suggesting putting him there this year. Not Flaherty really either. I included both of them for the future, not the present.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 2:15 PM

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That makes sense dmason. I love some awesome defense but at the same time I think we can agree, we all hope that with our lineup, Casilla at 2B is the weakest part of our lineup. :-)

And looking towards the future makes sense, but if Kinslers here then it should be locked down for the future. Not arguing one way or the other. I see both sides, and I think i may be in favor of it. It certainly couldddd be exciting.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 4:47 PM

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camdenbird wrote: I think we can agree, we all hope that with our lineup, Casilla at 2B is the weakest part of our lineup. :-)
You're absolutely right about that. I think our lineup is actually pretty formidable. No mega-stars, but there's a ton of power up and down that lineup and they can play defense as well as anyone.

It's the starting pitching that concerns me. I don't like what the front office did there. I guess leaving the fifth spot open creates some interesting competition, but I would have been fine letting that competition go into April and May in Norfolk.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 11:52 AM

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Ya know mason, I hope I'm not being over-confident, but the starting pitching SHOULD be good this year.. I mean, we have about 8-9 guys that could at least make 4th-5th starter on at least 10 teams. lol I like all my "at leasts" there. But really, I think they should be fine. Maybe they could outperform last year even. The potential is there.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:30 PM

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Lets look at our rotation in no particular order;
1-Hamel
2-Chen
3-MiGo
4-Tillman
5th spot is up for grabs.Matusz,Arrieta,Steve Johnson,Britton,Bundy,McFarland,Pinero,Hunter are a few of the names in the mix. Between you and I unless I missed the news I dont think Jurrens(sp) will show up in Baltimore.

 I think all 4 of the tops guys are 13-15 win pitchers and not pitchers who will win 20 games. I'tll take but it would of been nice to have 1 more guy like those 4. Pinero is the only one been there and done that but he as had a couple of seasons of injuries so its a stretch for him to be in the rotation.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:12 PM

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I'm hoping that we keep Bundy at AAA to start the year only so he has a bit more seasoning. If a pitcher goes down and he's pitching well, then I'd say bring him up. As for the rest of the pitchers you named, I'd let Matusz, Arrieta and Britton compete. Arrieta has shown times where he pitches solid and he can eat some innings.

I smell tacos...

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Posted: 2/15/2013 8:47 AM

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SJ, I REALLY like Matusz in the 'pen. Let him stay where's had his most consistent success in the majors!
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