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Orioles Extend Buck and Duquette Through 2018

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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:58 PM

Orioles Extend Buck and Duquette Through 2018 


"Fresh off of their first playoff appearance in 15 years, the Orioles have decided to keep their leadership structure in place for the foreseeable future. The team announced extensions for manager Buck Showalter and executive VP of baseball operations Dan Duquette through the 2018 season."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/orioles-exte nd-duquette-showalter.html

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Last edited 1/16/2013 5:59 PM by ripken4prez

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Posted: 1/16/2013 6:04 PM

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Beat me to it. This has got to be a sign that Angelos is serious about contending. I mean, a 5 year deal for both a manager and general manager? When's the last time he did that?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 6:18 PM

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stephenjames1979 wrote: Beat me to it. This has got to be a sign that Angelos is serious about contending. I mean, a 5 year deal for both a manager and general manager? When's the last time he did that?

This is clearly a start but until I see us make some serious moves I won't believe Angelos is serious at making the O's a top contender.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 7:24 PM

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Great move! Gives the team stability, players like to know who they will be playing for. With their current contract this gives them both six more seasons. Nice!

 

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Posted: 1/17/2013 2:15 AM

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Yeah, the only guys the Orioles signed beside some minor league scrubs... said the skeptics... last year... said the skeptics this year...

Throw the 2 seamer for strikes dammit.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 8:07 AM

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Surprised at the length of the deals but happy to see it happen.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 8:29 AM

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Stability at the top. Congrats to Buck and DD. Just in time for Fanfest.

 

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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:07 AM

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I'm not expecting them to make a super huge splash this offseason and I'm fine with that. They made moves last offseason that I questioned and I was proven wrong. It can be a little unnerving that there's no major news but it's like that for the most part across the board with most of the teams in baseball.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 8:36 PM

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FWIW here are my extended thoughts on the offseason inaction

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Posted: 1/18/2013 9:04 AM

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Nice writeup Rip.  And I think you have assessed the situation fairly well albeit perhaps with a bit of orange colored glasses. tongue

The one point I really disagree on is First Base. I agree that Davis can be adequate and his bat is pretty potent. But I think we are going to see a big drop off with the loss of Reynolds.

1. His defense is what turned the overall defense around the second half. And yes brining up Manny to third was a good addition.
2. We already had Davis' bat in the lineup so what we don't gain anything with him at First. But we lose Reynolds, strikeouts and all. But he was the only player on this team who could truly carry the team with his bat for stretches when he got hot.

So my real concern is that if we regress a bit this year, which I see happening, does it turn off the fans and even more the FA to where they once again shun coming to BMore?
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Posted: 1/20/2013 2:31 PM

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ifsteve wrote: 
1. His defense is what turned the overall defense around the second half.
Disagree with that.

1B Reynolds, 3B Betemit 
vs
1B Davis 3B Machado.

The second defense is better by a very large margin in my opinion.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 3:54 PM

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dmason85 wrote:
ifsteve wrote: 
1. His defense is what turned the overall defense around the second half.
Disagree with that.

1B Reynolds, 3B Betemit 
vs
1B Davis 3B Machado.

The second defense is better by a very large margin in my opinion.
Dude, reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit. Go back and read what I said in point #1.  If you think Davis and Machado is better than Reynolds and Machado then I disagree but so be it. Nowhere did I bring up Betemit. rolleyes
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:48 PM

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ifsteve wrote:
dmason85 wrote:
ifsteve wrote: 
1. His defense is what turned the overall defense around the second half.
Disagree with that.

1B Reynolds, 3B Betemit 
vs
1B Davis 3B Machado.

The second defense is better by a very large margin in my opinion.
Dude, reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit. Go back and read what I said in point #1.  If you think Davis and Machado is better than Reynolds and Machado then I disagree but so be it. Nowhere did I bring up Betemit. rolleyes
Eye rolling and insults don't help anyone.

The fact of the matter is, his defense was insignificant towards the overall defensive improvement. If Machado had never come up, the defense would have still stunk with Betemit at 3B and Reynolds at 1B. With Machado at 3B and Davis at 1B the defense would have still been very good.

Therefore, Reynolds defense did not turn around the overall defense, Machado's did. That's the point I made. I'm sorry if you didn't understand that.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:09 AM

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Ok sorry for the insult.       redface

Bottom line question - which defense do you think would be better?

Machado and Reynolds  or Machado and Davis?  My base point is that I think we have a fair  dropoff with the later and we would still have Davis' bat in the lineup if we kept Reynolds.  So I believe the O's are less of a team now. We have not improved the lineup and I think the defense drops a bit.  And since it looks more and more like Roberts isn't going to be any major contributor then we are banking our entire improvement on a healthy Reimold and that makes me very nervous.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 10:28 AM

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Davis has a .950 fielding % at 1st in over 260 games with just 10 errors in the MLB. A fact I overlooked with my orginal statement on another topic and went ahead retract my statement. Davis seems to be able to handle 1st and has power therefore im fine with the choice.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:41 AM

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ifsteve wrote: Ok sorry for the insult.       redface

Bottom line question - which defense do you think would be better?

Machado and Reynolds  or Machado and Davis?  My base point is that I think we have a fair  dropoff with the later and we would still have Davis' bat in the lineup if we kept Reynolds.  So I believe the O's are less of a team now. We have not improved the lineup and I think the defense drops a bit.  And since it looks more and more like Roberts isn't going to be any major contributor then we are banking our entire improvement on a healthy Reimold and that makes me very nervous.

I don't think anyone can honestly give an objective opinion until we actually see Machado-Davis. I say wait it out and give it time.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:57 PM

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From what I've seen, Machado-Reynolds is the better option.

Frankly, I don't like the thought of Davis at 1B. Buck is really supporting him in the press, but he did the exact same thing with Reynolds at 3B last night.
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