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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:08 AM

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Would you deal Bundy, Schoop, Arrieta, and Matusz for Giancarlo Stanton and Ricky Nolasco??  Im back and forth on whether I would be willing to part with Bundy.  But Stanton is proven and having him batting 4th for the next 5 to 10 yrs.  An outfield trio of Stanton, Jones, and Markakis could very dangerous for yrs!!!
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:46 AM

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Take Bundy out and I am okay with the deal even if you add another player. Stanton can hit the long ball but what else can he do? Is he a gold glove OF'er?

http://www.thebaseballcube.com...=Mike-Stanton-2
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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:26 PM

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He can play first base as well, if I'm not mistaken.

I smell tacos...

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Posted: 1/5/2013 8:52 AM

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I would make that trade. Every trade has some risks.....some upside and downsidds. The Os are close to being a legit contender but they need a huge missing piece and that is a true cleanup hitter. We have not done a dang thing to improve this winter. That is not going to work very often in thd AL East. Certainly you have to be smart about your moves but in any business status qou is usually a slow path to death.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 3:07 PM

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O's are counting on some key injured players in 2012 making up a lot of the 'improvements' in 2013. They expect Reimold, Roberts and Markakis to be major players. Markakis I get. Roberts I don't get at all. He may be willing...but he has been a non-factor for so long, I can't believe they are counting on him. Reimold showed great promise early but spent pretty much the whole year on the shelf. Can he stay healthy and if so, is he going to be a major contributor?

Reynolds is gone, so that puts more pressure on Davis and probably Jones. Betemit IMO is a non-factor. A spare part nothing more.

So yes, I continue to believe the O's lack one big bat that they can count on to at least replace what Reynolds has given them. That bat will probably only come now via a trade. But I fear, if the O's stand pat, they will once again slide into the depths of the AL East. We clearly don't want that, especially after that incredible season last year.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 3:14 PM

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I wouldn't trade Bundy.

For the first time in a long time, we are right on the cusp of getting a legitimate, top-of-the-rotation ace. Obviously anything can happen, and there are no guarantees, but I wouldn't make any deal for Stanton that includes Bundy (or Machado).
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Posted: 1/5/2013 5:14 PM

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There are three players in baseball I trade bundy for stanton trout and kershaw. Bundy is a great prospect but stanton is a great hitter that already has close to 100 bombs before his age 23 season. The likelihood of bundy becoming a true ace is probably at 20% if that.

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Posted: 1/5/2013 7:22 PM

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dabuscuits wrote: There are three players in baseball I trade bundy for stanton trout and kershaw. Bundy is a great prospect but stanton is a great hitter that already has close to 100 bombs before his age 23 season. The likelihood of bundy becoming a true ace is probably at 20% if that.
That is a very good point...

I'd be very hesitant to make the that trade, in fact, I wouldn't do it.  However, it's a very interesting trade.  My concern with Stanton, based on stats alone, is that he only played 123 games last year.  Why?  Also, his .290 average is significantly higher than his previous 2 seasons.  Is that an anomaly or will that be the norm?  His splits also show he's not that clutch hitter you'd hope for or expect.  Again, not bashing him or putting him down...just concerns/questions. 

Bundy being a prospect has his own set of questions as well...
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Posted: 1/5/2013 7:59 PM

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Stanton was less than two months from being born in the 1990s; he's already hit 93 career home runs. He's a kid. He just turned 23 in November. He's so young and so good. Stanton will be hitting homers like crazy until he's 35, if not longer.

At his current rate, he'll hit 35-45 each year. By the time he's 35, he should be sitting at 600 or so. This is a guy with epic power, possible greatest-of-all-time stuff.

I love Bundy and all....but Stanton would play every day and affect the team on a more regular basis. They're both of the same impact anyways, if not more for Stanton.

The question is if the Orioles would actually be able to re-sign him after making a trade...would he want to go to 'bigger' places?

In the end though....it's not gonna happen. noidea
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:41 PM

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ripken4prez wrote: The question is if the Orioles would actually be able to re-sign him after making a trade...would he want to go to 'bigger' places?
he's not a free agent until after 2017 so you'd get 5 good years out of him.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 8:50 AM

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dabuscuits wrote:
ripken4prez wrote: The question is if the Orioles would actually be able to re-sign him after making a trade...would he want to go to 'bigger' places?
he's not a free agent until after 2017 so you'd get 5 good years out of him.
+1
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Posted: 1/6/2013 8:52 PM

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OK--lets add some reality to this discussion. Lets say the Marlins have made it known that they are willing to trade Stanton. Would the O's actually go after him...or is this just all of us talking 'fake trades in the offseason'?
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Posted: 1/6/2013 10:50 PM

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insagt1 wrote: OK--lets add some reality to this discussion. Lets say the Marlins have made it known that they are willing to trade Stanton. Would the O's actually go after him...or is this just all of us talking 'fake trades in the offseason'?
Theyd be crazy not to at least look into it. Stanton is a cornerstone type player. I definitely think they'd look into it. I personally would package bundy for stanton.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:04 AM

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insagt1 wrote: OK--lets add some reality to this discussion. Lets say the Marlins have made it known that they are willing to trade Stanton. Would the O's actually go after him...or is this just all of us talking 'fake trades in the offseason'?

I think the thread started with;woukld you make a trade if Stanton was on the block.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:15 AM

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sczepp wrote:
insagt1 wrote: OK--lets add some reality to this discussion. Lets say the Marlins have made it known that they are willing to trade Stanton. Would the O's actually go after him...or is this just all of us talking 'fake trades in the offseason'?

I think the thread started with;woukld you make a trade if Stanton was on the block.

I don't know about this thread but all the speculation started with MLB Rumors having a post that stated the Marlins were willing to listen for offers on Stanton.

 

“Assistant General Manager Dan Jennings says that the club isn't shopping the right fielder, but they will listen to all offers for him, according to Jim Bowden of SiriusXM (on Twitter).”

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Qb5rWEbM46soEOHc.99




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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:10 PM

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thats what i wanted to know. Once a discussion starts with 'would you', it usually just means 'fake trade' 'wishful thinking'...what is HAS done is give us all some insight as to everyone's thinking about our top prospects.

Still--the O's need to make some improvements. I don't think anyone disputes that.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:48 PM

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Robbing peter to pay paul...

The Orioles do not have the pitching depth to make such a deal. The rotation after this year is unsettled at best. And as we saw in 2012, it was about the pitching and defense.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:30 PM

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RisingOs wrote: Robbing peter to pay paul...

The Orioles do not have the pitching depth to make such a deal. The rotation after this year is unsettled at best. And as we saw in 2012, it was about the pitching and defense.
You can't deny that the O's didn't have a lot of luck on their side last year.

Not to take anything away from the pitching and defense but that is something you can't rely on every single year when your opponents are trotting out epic lineups.

If it was a matter of trading Bundy for Stanton straight up, I'd do it.

I'm comfortable with the depth remaining in the organization if we're getting back a player like Stanton. noidea
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Posted: 1/8/2013 1:43 AM

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ripken4prez wrote:
RisingOs wrote: Robbing peter to pay paul...

The Orioles do not have the pitching depth to make such a deal. The rotation after this year is unsettled at best. And as we saw in 2012, it was about the pitching and defense.
You can't deny that the O's didn't have a lot of luck on their side last year.

Not to take anything away from the pitching and defense but that is something you can't rely on every single year when your opponents are trotting out epic lineups.

If it was a matter of trading Bundy for Stanton straight up, I'd do it.

I'm comfortable with the depth remaining in the organization if we're getting back a player like Stanton. noidea
bundy for stanton straight up? hell yea! but would the O's FO have the guts to make that offer and if yes would the marlins accept that trade.

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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:59 AM

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ripken4prez wrote: Stanton was less than two months from being born in the 1990s; he's already hit 93 career home runs. He's a kid. He just turned 23 in November. He's so young and so good. Stanton will be hitting homers like crazy until he's 35, if not longer.

At his current rate, he'll hit 35-45 each year. By the time he's 35, he should be sitting at 600 or so. This is a guy with epic power, possible greatest-of-all-time stuff.

I love Bundy and all....but Stanton would play every day and affect the team on a more regular basis. They're both of the same impact anyways, if not more for Stanton.

The question is if the Orioles would actually be able to re-sign him after making a trade...would he want to go to 'bigger' places?

In the end though....it's not gonna happen. noidea
Andruw Jones is a cautionary tale for projecting stats like that. Would you trade Bundy for a young Jones? Stanton is hardly the defender Jones is.

Throw the 2 seamer for strikes dammit.
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