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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:41 PM

Welcome to the Big Ten! 


Welcome to the B1G, Terps!

Looking forward to starting up a basketball rivalry with you guys. I know your football team will only get better with this and I like this deal for the conference. 
Rutgers, now I'm not so sure. Ultimately I would love to get Virginia Tech.

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Posted: 11/19/2012 2:13 PM

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all those years on tobacco road dont know what to say
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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:51 PM

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sczepp wrote: all those years on tobacco road dont know what to say
Easy, same thing we always say... "**** Duke," see ya later.

As a UMD alumnus who has spent nearly half my life in the midwest and east coast, I couldn't be happier.

It's a dream come true. My good friends from high school and my good friends from college will be able to meet up and go to Terps/Illini/NU games.

Tradition is great for the past, new memories with all my friends and family are what I look forward to in the future.

Throw the 2 seamer for strikes dammit.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 9:54 AM

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I like it too.  Once FSU leaves, the conference is going to sink anyway.  Better for UMD to get out now while they can... not to mention leaving for arguably an overall better conference.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:44 AM

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Now that I understand that there are problems in the ACC and that there were other schools  contemplating new conferences as well, I'm not upset.  I have to admit, it will be weird for a while.  I'm going to miss the Duke and NC basketball rivalry and while I'm not a huge LAX fan, I was starting to enjoy it.  The football program is going to be as terrible there as it was in the ACC, so who really cares.  Problem is now, that it's going to take it longer, I would think to improve it in the Big Ten than it might have in the ACC.

But at least I'll have all of my memories of Cole Field House and the Terps beating the Cavaliers and TarHeels and Blue Devils from back in the day.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 11:10 AM

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That 50 million dollar exit fee boggles my mind!

 

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Posted: 11/20/2012 12:59 PM

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UMD gets $25 million up front from the BigTen Network and that amount is on a yearly basis. Now how the Terps improve in football is another story but like another poster said they've been louzy for a while now so whats the difference. If they are going to rebound in football might as well give the big 10 a shot though me personally will miss the ACC days. I dont like it but what do I care as I am only a fan and not a booster or alumni of UMD. Id rather drive down 97 in Anne Arundel County and hit up NAVY football games as its closer and the stadium seems nicer in my opinion. Hearing Lefty Driesell on 105.7 he has some points; why the heck is this school losing money when smaller schools like Duke are not and have little to no football interest.

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Posted: 11/20/2012 1:20 PM

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There is no way the $50 million exit fee will hold up in court. An amount that high is excessively punitive, Maryland voted against it (as did Florida State), and I bet quite a few lawyers can argue that the way the contract is worded means only the old exit fee applies to any school bailing out before next June 30. Nor do I feel sorry for the ACC. They started all of this stuff by taking Virginia Tech, Miami, and BC from the Big East back in 2003, followed by Syracuse and Pitt last year, plus Notre Dame a few weeks ago. Now the shoe is on the other foot and I don't care how badly their fall from grace hurts.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 1:57 AM

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LanceLancaster wrote: There is no way the $50 million exit fee will hold up in court. An amount that high is excessively punitive, Maryland voted against it (as did Florida State), and I bet quite a few lawyers can argue that the way the contract is worded means only the old exit fee applies to any school bailing out before next June 30. Nor do I feel sorry for the ACC. They started all of this stuff by taking Virginia Tech, Miami, and BC from the Big East back in 2003, followed by Syracuse and Pitt last year, plus Notre Dame a few weeks ago. Now the shoe is on the other foot and I don't care how badly their fall from grace hurts.
i fail to see how this is the acc's fault for expanding in 2003? What about the B1G and Penn State, or the Pac12 and SEC?

It's the ACC's fault for having the worst negotiators in the history of college athletics. they have a terrible TV deal that horribly underpays its schools.

Throw the 2 seamer for strikes dammit.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:17 AM

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Exactly! Tv deal is horrible in the ACC and everyone wants a piece of the pie, you can't blame Maryland or Rutgers to leaving for the money.

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LanceLancaster wrote: There is no way the $50 million exit fee will hold up in court. An amount that high is excessively punitive, Maryland voted against it (as did Florida State), and I bet quite a few lawyers can argue that the way the contract is worded means only the old exit fee applies to any school bailing out before next June 30. Nor do I feel sorry for the ACC. They started all of this stuff by taking Virginia Tech, Miami, and BC from the Big East back in 2003, followed by Syracuse and Pitt last year, plus Notre Dame a few weeks ago. Now the shoe is on the other foot and I don't care how badly their fall from grace hurts.
i fail to see how this is the acc's fault for expanding in 2003? What about the B1G and Penn State, or the Pac12 and SEC?

It's the ACC's fault for having the worst negotiators in the history of college athletics. they have a terrible TV deal that horribly underpays its schools.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:42 AM

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Not a big fan of this - but I'll give it a chance the ACC's TV coverage is horrific
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Posted: 11/21/2012 2:46 PM

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Want to make some money... take whatever the UNDER is on Maryland team wins in football next year...

See examples -- WVA & Missouri coming from a weak conference to a strong one.
Losers whine about their best...... Winners go home and        %##%# the prom queen.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:39 PM

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The only place it really annoys me is basketball. Our program is on the upswing right now. I'm sure some of the recruits loved the idea of going head to head with UNC and Duke.
DiscoJamal wrote: Not a big fan of this - but I'll give it a chance the ACC's TV coverage is horrific
I'm not a big lacrosse fan, but they've got to go independent in lacrosse. Do what Hopkins does.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:22 PM

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Duke & UNC are in a bad position now - especially if other teams leave the ACC
They're not a big TV market and duke especially sucks at FB
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Posted: 11/22/2012 2:42 AM

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dmason85 wrote: The only place it really annoys me is basketball. Our program is on the upswing right now. I'm sure some of the recruits loved the idea of going head to head with UNC and Duke.
DiscoJamal wrote: Not a big fan of this - but I'll give it a chance the ACC's TV coverage is horrific
I'm not a big lacrosse fan, but they've got to go independent in lacrosse. Do what Hopkins does.
the best players want to play at the schools that give exposure and a chance to win before jumping to the NBA, as well as exotic early season tournaments.. opponents have nothing to do with it. Why did the best players go to Memphis and now Kentucky? You can't tell me they look forward to playing in the SEC or CUSA back then.

Why did great players go to Arizona or MSU or OSU?

Some recruits may love the idea of playing UNC and Duke, but the BEST end up at Kentucky, and those two schools are rarely on their schedule, unless it's the final four.

Throw the 2 seamer for strikes dammit.
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Posted: 11/22/2012 8:48 AM

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It's just going to have to play out.  I don't like that it was done in secret.  I understand the claim of more money for the University, but anything done by administrators behind closed doors always gets my radar up.

What I'm concerned about is if the basketball and lax programs are going to take a bigger hit than any gain the football program might.  It would be a shame to see two programs that are far better than average become mediocre only to see the football team continue stinking or gain marginally.  Marginal usually means "bad" too.wink

Rumors have the ACC collapsing tho, so we might look back on this in a year or two thanking the decision makers for being proactive.  If FlaState and Miami move to the SEC, the ACC's going to be in a terrible spot with regard to football.

I think when they expand these conferences to the point where the schedule can't accomodate away and home games against conference rivals, particularly in Basketball, the idea of "conference" is diluted.  The whole SEC East/West thing, the ACC North/South... those kinds of things, to me, are bad for business.  The ACC had something unique with the basketball schedule having room for home and away games thru out the season.  Those rivalries made the ACC a huge moneymaker.  Once the conference was diluted with Miami, BC, etc, the number of highly marketable conference rivalry games was cut in half.
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Posted: 11/22/2012 2:05 PM

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OsMagik wrote:

i fail to see how this is the acc's fault for expanding in 2003? What about the B1G and Penn State, or the Pac12 and SEC?

It's the ACC's fault for having the worst negotiators in the history of college athletics. they have a terrible TV deal that horribly underpays its schools.
Because the way the ACC went about things with Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College in 2003 was unprecedented in the history of college athletics. It was like a Wall Street corporate raid and the attitude they displayed was sickening for people who were supposed to be educators. No power conference had ever gone after three schools from another power conference before. Back when Penn State joined the Big Ten, they were an independent, so that move didn't hurt any other league. The SEC took Arkansas from the SWC, but they were just one school and wanted to get away from Texas anyway, while South Carolina was independent. The Pac-12 only grabbed Utah and Colorado after the Big Ten took Nebraska, which wanted to get away from Texas, so their hand was kind of forced. Texas A&M then decided to beg for SEC admission to get away from Texas, with Missouri following just to keep even numbers, and to get away from Texas. The ACC then took Pitt and Syracuse due to fear of the SEC, as well as to force a renegotiation of their TV contract, and grabbed Notre Dame this year to cement their deal with the Orange Bowl after some commentators started talking about a Power Four which didn't include them.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:28 PM

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Could MD have kept the basketball and Lax in the ACC and moved their football to Big 10?  Notre Dame has the best of both worlds being Indy in Football and ACC in the best BBall conference in the NCAA.  How the heck does that happen???  I hate ND and Ohio State worse than any other colleges.  They're like the Yankers and BoSux of college sports.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:03 PM

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To answer your first question, no. The Big Ten will not allow a school to join in some sports and not others, a big reason why Notre Dame has never joined. While it does seem Notre Dame has it made by being independent in football, the landscape of college football is changing and I think we're headed for 4 super conferences with the winners playing each other in the playoffs, and then Notre Dame will be forced to join a conference. 

Going by history yes the ACC is the best conference in basketball, but the Big Ten is no slouch either having won the last 3 Big Ten/ACC challenges. So don't act like a move to the  Big Ten is horrible for Maryland's basketball program.


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Posted: 11/24/2012 8:43 PM

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I'm not sure how Maryland leaving the acc is going to be the demise of the conference. Replace them with Louisville or Connecticut and you don't miss anything.

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