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Posted: 8/12/2014 9:00 PM

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Outside of being a first rounder is there a reason he's still here? They had to move him to LB and from what I saw he was mostly out of position.

For all the good things that Phil has done I feel that he needs to cut his losses and move on. Might be tough since it was his first pick but he isn't an nfl player.

Someone counter as to why he shouldn't be a special teaser at best.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 9:27 PM

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One part of one preseason game is quite small for a sample size to judge a player that has switched positions.

Relax. If it doesn't work out at LBer, Shea will be off the team soon enough.

I still think he can be good, but we'll see.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 10:48 PM

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I guess my problem is that we are even bothering at linebacker. He has shown little to nothing. If we go into the season still wondering and he's a starter I will be worried about phil and Trestman.

My sample size is his overall ability, or in this case a lack thereof.

I just don't want to waste a few important games on someone that has shown to be a bust.


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One part of one preseason game is quite small for a sample size to judge a player that has switched positions.

Relax. If it doesn't work out at LBer, Shea will be off the team soon enough.

I still think he can be good, but we'll see.

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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:19 PM

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I'm actually wondering why there aren't more questions about Bostic.

He was horrid last year, and Emery said that he wasn't middle linebacker material, but now all of a sudden, he's being talked about like he's a sure bet right along with Briggs.

What gives?
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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:32 PM

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Totally agree, for me Shea is the bigger issue because he's a starter vs. bostic at backup unless the depth chart I saw was wrong. Sadly, another draft with a few linebackers would be good. It's a patchwork d that could be middle of the road at best IMHO.

Age and inexperience should be the D's nickname.


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I'm actually wondering why there aren't more questions about Bostic.

He was horrid last year, and Emery said that he wasn't middle linebacker material, but now all of a sudden, he's being talked about like he's a sure bet right along with Briggs.

What gives?

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Posted: 8/13/2014 3:34 AM

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Shea is learning a new position, so I give him a pass, for now.


On the other hand, this is Bostic's second year as a lb and he still looks like he doesn't know what's going on.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 8:33 AM

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I'm thinking Shea needs to have more time to adjust to the new position.  At least until the last cut before the season!   At this point I think undrafted rookie Christian Jones has a better chance at making the final roster than Shea.  Jones looks like he came right from Central Casting as to what an NFL linebacker looks like.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 8:59 AM

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In Emery's initial press conference about him, he did allude to the fact that Shea would be a great special teamer! Looks like we are just getting that now!

Plain and simple he's only on the roster because of where he was drafted, that is nothing for the Bears and the NFL in general. He's got this year, and I say then the Bears will cut him.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 9:46 AM

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Don't be surprised if Shea gets cut. If he does nothing to distinguish himself in the next two games I doubt he sticks.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:04 AM

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When playing DE, Shea never seemed excessively fast, strong, a good tackler, a good run stopper, or good at dropping into coverage. I'm exaggerating a bit because obviously there are nuances to playing different positions, but for the most part I still don't understand which of these things he's going to be able to do now just because his hand is off the ground at the snap.

We have very, very little evidence that Shea McClellin is an NFL player.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:11 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: When playing DE, Shea never seemed excessively fast, strong, a good tackler, a good run stopper, or good at dropping into coverage. I'm exaggerating a bit because obviously there are nuances to playing different positions, but for the most part I still don't understand which of these things he's going to be able to do now just because his hand is off the ground at the snap.

We have very, very little evidence that Shea McClellin is an NFL player.

He hasn't improved in any of those beyond perhaps "speed" in dropping the weight. And I'd say his reaction time to diagnose the play and take action if anything has taken a hit because he now has to process what he's seeing at the LB position, which is more important than his straight-line athleticism. I just don't see it either and I don't think it's just the scheme.

How much longer do you wait? As long as he's cheap and as long as he's not clogging up the pipeline for other players i guess. Get as much value as you can while, don't throw good money after bad, and keep looking for his replacement.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:20 AM

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Plain and simple he's only on the roster because of where he was drafted,

He's on the roster for the same reasons as why we drafted him.

His measurables are off the charts, and we know that he's capable of production because he did it in college.

One half of one game against the Eagles is not enough to give up on a guy learning a new position. Why kick him off the team for failing at DE when he's learning a new position?

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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:22 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote:

When playing DE, Shea never seemed excessively fast, strong, a good tackler, a good run stopper, or good at dropping into coverage.


Really?

I'll give you the others, but I though he looked blazingly fast for a DE.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:26 AM

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Mostly this. I will say that during the first preseason game it was very obvious to me that Shea was thinking about what he had to do before doing it. He was just a half second late to the party on a lot of snaps. If he gets the new position down well enough that he isn't spending time thinking before reacting, then I think he will be a good player. 


Bostic on the other hand has always played the position and the game is still moving too fast for him. that is a bad sign after a full year where he took a lot of snaps. Sorry, but between these two, I would keep Shea and cut bostic if I had to make a decision. 

All that being said, Jones looked pretty good. Better than Bostic and shea. He should make the team.

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DoubleDown11 wrote: When playing DE, Shea never seemed excessively fast, strong, a good tackler, a good run stopper, or good at dropping into coverage. I'm exaggerating a bit because obviously there are nuances to playing different positions, but for the most part I still don't understand which of these things he's going to be able to do now just because his hand is off the ground at the snap.

We have very, very little evidence that Shea McClellin is an NFL player.

He hasn't improved in any of those beyond perhaps "speed" in dropping the weight. And I'd say his reaction time to diagnose the play and take action if anything has taken a hit because he now has to process what he's seeing at the LB position, which is more important than his straight-line athleticism. I just don't see it either and I don't think it's just the scheme.

How much longer do you wait? As long as he's cheap and as long as he's not clogging up the pipeline for other players i guess. Get as much value as you can while, don't throw good money after bad, and keep looking for his replacement.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:00 AM

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I thought McClellin looked lost pretty much every snap that he was on the field against the Eagles.

He was poor in coverage, he missed a tackle and seemed tentative when it came to meeting a blocker head on to clog a running lane.

Hopefully we see a ton of improvement tomorrow night againot the Jags, because right now I cannot figure out why he's on this roster.

As for Bostic, who is a natural LBer, he also needs to step up his game ASAP. He was on the field more than anyone last week(I think?) and he made little to no impact and I seen him struggle to get off blocks like he did last season. I don't know if he's an inside or outside LBer, but he needs to step up immediately.

I liked what I seen from Greene last week though. I hope they start giving him some legitimate opportunities to compete for a starting job. The more competition, the better. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a shot at MLBer either.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:16 AM

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Where is the Emery fixed the defense crowd? Doesn't seem to be as loud now.

People need to start accepting that we will have, at a minimum, a piss poor secondary again this year.

Shea is here and will be here for one reason. Cap hit. When his hit is gone, so will he be.

And I'm tired if hearing "he needs more time". Bullcrap. How much more time does he need?

The same people saying "he's learning a new position" are the same people who said "he'll be good in that position, that's where he played before".
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:31 AM

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McClellin is too much dead money to cut.  Bostic is listed by Bears as co-starter with Williams; anticipation is that Bostic plays the passing downs.  I will not be surprised if 2-LB sets are McClellin and Bostic while 3-LB sets are Briggs, Williams, and Jones/Greene.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:42 AM

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Muntz wrote: Don't be surprised if Shea gets cut. If he does nothing to distinguish himself in the next two games I doubt he sticks.

The Bears would be stuck with 4.1 million in dead money if they cut him this year.  He's not going anywhere.  At worst, he's depth in case of injury.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:01 PM

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We are going to be soft at LB and safety but we should have a good if not great DL and CB's.

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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:17 PM

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FloridaBearsFan wrote: Where is the Emery fixed the defense crowd? Doesn't seem to be as loud now.

People need to start accepting that we will have, at a minimum, a piss poor secondary again this year.

Shea is here and will be here for one reason. Cap hit. When his hit is gone, so will he be.

And I'm tired if hearing "he needs more time". Bullcrap. How much more time does he need?

The same people saying "he's learning a new position" are the same people who said "he'll be good in that position, that's where he played before".
I'm still on board with this offseason as a whole. You can't fix every positional group in one year. The DL was the most important failing unit on the team, and we threw the kitchen sink at it. It would have been nice if we had more moves to make at LB, but we've thrown a lot of bodies at the position the last few years, we were out of assets, and it was time to see if the talent we had home grown is any good. So on the whole, it might be another up and down year for LBs, but I'm not sure if there were tons of other obvious moves to make?
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