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Aaron Rodgers gives the Packers the edge in NFC North

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Posted: 8/2/2014 9:57 PM

Aaron Rodgers gives the Packers the edge in NFC North 



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Posted: 8/2/2014 10:48 PM

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Posted: 8/2/2014 11:39 PM

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Aaron Rodgers is not the Packers.

He's a great QB, but football is a team sport. The other players, the defense, and the offensive system in place are all just as important as any one player.

Personally, I think the Bears offense will outpace the Packers this year. We'll see.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 8:03 AM

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If Cutler plays at a pro bowl level and our defense is top half in the league, we win the North.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 9:04 AM

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When you think about it, the Packers and Bears are similar. Both have explosive balanced offenses, decent STs, and are just hoping their defenses to be average. Finally, the Bears can go toe to toe with Green Bay offensively. Cutler needs to stay healthy.



 

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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:00 AM

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AR is a top 5 QB, no doubt. The question is ...how is GB's O-line ?  Bahktiari is a so-so LOT, and Bulaga has not shown a return to form after injuries last year at ROT. Then there's the center, with unproven JC Tretter ahead of drafted rookie Linsley who has been bugged by injury all TC.
GB also has no proven TE, after Jermichael Finley was not resigned due to injury. Jones gone in FA. Driver retired.
Sure, there's Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb, but neither compare with Bears Marshall and Jefffery.
Eddie Lacy provides some dimension in run game, but has nowhere near the versatility of Matt Forte.

We'll see how much of an 'edge' Rodgers has with Bears pass rush and (hopefully) improved run D
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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:30 AM

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Rodgers has a history of getting an awful lot of production out of any wr thrown on his team. His offense has managed lots of points with virtually no running game. His team has managed to win with a statistically dreadful defense. You can claim his o-line is suspect but...when hasnt it been for him? This isn't the first season where people wonder how well he will do behind a horrendous line. Yet he has still been successful.

Of course the division has helped (IMO). The none of the rest of the division has been consistently good to take advantage of the packers. Rodgers is damn good but the lions, vikings and bears have all had their hand in making him look as good as he does
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Posted: 8/3/2014 11:51 AM

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Every team in the division has a chance outside of Minny. And really the Bears and Packers both be co-favorites to win the NFC Central. The Bears nearly won it last year even though they were without Cutler for 5 games (and he was on one foot for another) and have really upgraded their team this offseason. Meanwhile the Packers seem to be stuck in neutral with a lot of questions.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 1:12 PM

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The Cheddar Express drafted 3 WR's, and have lost #5 pick Jared Abbrederis for the season with a torn ACL.
Jeff Janis has also been sidelined with a bout of shingles and has seen no TC playing time. TE Colt Lyerla injured himself on a bonehead play that drew coaches ire.  TE Richard Rodgers looked like he got his bell rung.
#2 pick WR Davonte Adams showing some ball skills, but only 6'1" and a pretty slow 40 time ( for a WR) of 4.56.

IMO, preseason won't reveal much about them either, with Tennessee, St.Louis, Oakland, and KC as opponents.
Regular season starts with GB at Seattle, home vs. Jets, then away at Detroit and Bears. I think they go 1-3 at best.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 1:27 PM

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Lot of chest beating around here for having an entire defense in question. A Mel Tucker led defense with a bunch of new people thrown on the line, and an entire secondary in sad shape that I don't believe will hold up to a packers offense.

Is it possible that we outplay them this year? Sure it is. We have been playing them pretty close for a while now even tough they usually end up pulling it out in the end. Hopefully we can take them this year. We sure have the offense for it.

It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised. I see them losing to Seattle being that it's in Seattle, but every other game is easily up for grabs.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 2:42 PM

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This. I think the Bears can be better but until proven otherwise I have to go Green Bay. He's the best player in the league IMO and always covers up their weaknesses enough for them to be in the 10-12 win range. If things break right health wise for the bears and the d plays much better then I think we'll beat them. If healthy we'll find out if tucker can coach or not.


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Lot of chest beating around here for having an entire defense in question. A Mel Tucker led defense with a bunch of new people thrown on the line, and an entire secondary in sad shape that I don't believe will hold up to a packers offense.

Is it possible that we outplay them this year? Sure it is. We have been playing them pretty close for a while now even tough they usually end up pulling it out in the end. Hopefully we can take them this year. We sure have the offense for it.

It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised. I see them losing to Seattle being that it's in Seattle, but every other game is easily up for grabs.

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Posted: 8/3/2014 10:26 PM

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Ontherebound wrote: This. I think the Bears can be better but until proven otherwise I have to go Green Bay. He's the best player in the league IMO and always covers up their weaknesses enough for them to be in the 10-12 win range. If things break right health wise for the bears and the d plays much better then I think we'll beat them. If healthy we'll find out if tucker can coach or not.


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Lot of chest beating around here for having an entire defense in question. A Mel Tucker led defense with a bunch of new people thrown on the line, and an entire secondary in sad shape that I don't believe will hold up to a packers offense.

Is it possible that we outplay them this year? Sure it is. We have been playing them pretty close for a while now even tough they usually end up pulling it out in the end. Hopefully we can take them this year. We sure have the offense for it.

It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised. I see them losing to Seattle being that it's in Seattle, but every other game is easily up for grabs.

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It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised

I just do not see us beating SF in their new home week 2.  The bears have a really difficult schedule.  If we make the playoffs it will be because of the 2nd half of the schedule.

PS.  Erin Rodgers sucks.  I am sure he gives the Packers the edge.  If the same question would have been asked of Cutler or Stafford I bet I can tell you what they would have said.

 

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Posted: 8/4/2014 12:13 AM

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Who's beating their chest?

Being that the last game was decided by two freak plays, there's nothing wrong with thinking that the Bears will take them this year.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 12:29 AM

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Evesowner wrote: Rodgers has a history of getting an awful lot of production out of any wr thrown on his team. His offense has managed lots of points with virtually no running game. His team has managed to win with a statistically dreadful defense. You can claim his o-line is suspect but...when hasnt it been for him? This isn't the first season where people wonder how well he will do behind a horrendous line. Yet he has still been successful.

Of course the division has helped (IMO). The none of the rest of the division has been consistently good to take advantage of the packers. Rodgers is damn good but the lions, vikings and bears have all had their hand in making him look as good as he does

"...and Bears have all their hand in mking him (Rodgers) look as good as he does"


Not this year.  Put enough pressure on him, and he'll wilt just like any other QB.  Forget about that middle of the pack bullsh!t, this Bears D ain't going to be a joke...mark my words!
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Posted: 8/4/2014 8:53 AM

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Evesowner wrote: Rodgers is damn good but the lions, vikings and bears have all had their hand in making him look as good as he does
Rodgers looked pretty damn good vs an elite Bears defense in 2012. The Bears actually play Rodgers better than most when Lovie was the coach. 

Rodgers is just as good as advertised. You dont have the highest career QB rating of all time by just beating up your division.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:18 AM

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Merely saying that the division has contributed to his stats. I'm not ignoring his obvious talent. Just saying the viking lions and bears have had a hand in his stats since a good chunk of his games have been against us.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:20 AM

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When I mentioned going 3-1 I was referring to the packers.
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Ontherebound wrote: This. I think the Bears can be better but until proven otherwise I have to go Green Bay. He's the best player in the league IMO and always covers up their weaknesses enough for them to be in the 10-12 win range. If things break right health wise for the bears and the d plays much better then I think we'll beat them. If healthy we'll find out if tucker can coach or not.


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Lot of chest beating around here for having an entire defense in question. A Mel Tucker led defense with a bunch of new people thrown on the line, and an entire secondary in sad shape that I don't believe will hold up to a packers offense.

Is it possible that we outplay them this year? Sure it is. We have been playing them pretty close for a while now even tough they usually end up pulling it out in the end. Hopefully we can take them this year. We sure have the offense for it.

It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised. I see them losing to Seattle being that it's in Seattle, but every other game is easily up for grabs.

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It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised

I just do not see us beating SF in their new home week 2.  The bears have a really difficult schedule.  If we make the playoffs it will be because of the 2nd half of the schedule.

PS.  Erin Rodgers sucks.  I am sure he gives the Packers the edge.  If the same question would have been asked of Cutler or Stafford I bet I can tell you what they would have said.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 9:22 AM

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Maybe re-read my post. The entire post.


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Who's beating their chest?

Being that the last game was decided by two freak plays, there's nothing wrong with thinking that the Bears will take them this year.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 4:05 PM

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Evesowner wrote: Merely saying that the division has contributed to his stats. I'm not ignoring his obvious talent. Just saying the viking lions and bears have had a hand in his stats since a good chunk of his games have been against us.
I hear you. But im also just saying that he'd made elite defenses look silly too. 

Cutler will never be as good as Rodgers but hopefully the offense takes another step while the defense shows a big jump. The defense will give the Bears the edge. Hopefully.

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Posted: 8/4/2014 4:25 PM

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FloridaBearsFan wrote:

When I mentioned going 3-1 I was referring to the packers.
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Ontherebound wrote: This. I think the Bears can be better but until proven otherwise I have to go Green Bay. He's the best player in the league IMO and always covers up their weaknesses enough for them to be in the 10-12 win range. If things break right health wise for the bears and the d plays much better then I think we'll beat them. If healthy we'll find out if tucker can coach or not.


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Lot of chest beating around here for having an entire defense in question. A Mel Tucker led defense with a bunch of new people thrown on the line, and an entire secondary in sad shape that I don't believe will hold up to a packers offense.

Is it possible that we outplay them this year? Sure it is. We have been playing them pretty close for a while now even tough they usually end up pulling it out in the end. Hopefully we can take them this year. We sure have the offense for it.

It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised. I see them losing to Seattle being that it's in Seattle, but every other game is easily up for grabs.

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It's also entirely possible that they go 3-1 in the first 4. Not only possible but I wouldn't be surprised

I just do not see us beating SF in their new home week 2.  The bears have a really difficult schedule.  If we make the playoffs it will be because of the 2nd half of the schedule.

PS.  Erin Rodgers sucks.  I am sure he gives the Packers the edge.  If the same question would have been asked of Cutler or Stafford I bet I can tell you what they would have said.

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