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Posted: 7/22/2014 11:27 AM

Josh is our QB 


Listened to a Smith interview on the way to work this morning on Mike and Mike. He said repeatedly when asked about the QB situation that "Josh is our QB".

Not really news, but it was a humorous stroll down memory lane that I thought I'd share.

Didn't hear anything about running or busses though.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 7:31 PM

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FloridaBearsFan wrote: Listened to a Smith interview on the way to work this morning on Mike and Mike. He said repeatedly when asked about the QB situation that "Josh is our QB".

Not really news, but it was a humorous stroll down memory lane that I thought I'd share.

Didn't hear anything about running or busses though.

I think Josh is in for a rude awakening

 

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Posted: 7/22/2014 8:58 PM

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ghostd00d wrote:
FloridaBearsFan wrote: Listened to a Smith interview on the way to work this morning on Mike and Mike. He said repeatedly when asked about the QB situation that "Josh is our QB".

Not really news, but it was a humorous stroll down memory lane that I thought I'd share.

Didn't hear anything about running or busses though.

I think Josh is in for a rude awakening
Yup. But he's got money in the bank. He should get Trestman a really big thank you gift.
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Posted: 7/22/2014 11:17 PM

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Very possibly the case. But having three "trees" to throw to again will make his life easier and might make him appear to still be much better than he is. We shall see.

 

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Posted: 7/23/2014 5:27 AM

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Did they let Lovie pick the OC? I am too lazy to look it up, but if he did, Josh better get AFLAC.

Lovie wasn't terrible, but he left the offense to die. I hope Tampa's GM was smart enough to have heavy input in that hire.


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--- outkasted2006 wrote:

Very possibly the case. But having three "trees" to throw to again will make his life easier and might make him appear to still be much better than he is. We shall see.



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Posted: 7/23/2014 6:44 AM

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NJNole28 wrote: Did they let Lovie pick the OC? I am too lazy to look it up, but if he did, Josh better get AFLAC.

Lovie wasn't terrible, but he left the offense to die. I hope Tampa's GM was smart enough to have heavy input in that hire.


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Very possibly the case. But having three "trees" to throw to again will make his life easier and might make him appear to still be much better than he is. We shall see.



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Lovie was hired before the GM. What does that mean? It means Lovie is calling the shots. He has final say on the roster. He brought in the OC too, Jeff Tedford from Cal. Tedford is probably best known for coaching Kyle Boller and Aaron Rodgers.

I hope McCown has a good season. Great guy, wish him the best.



 

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Posted: 7/23/2014 8:28 AM

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Prediction: Mike Glennon will be the Bucs starting quarterback when they play in Chicago in late November.
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Posted: 7/23/2014 11:39 AM

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I wish Josh Mc well. Good team player that got a second chance by basically coming out of retirement to be Jay's backup, and then performed better than expected. Remember Collins ? Hanie ? Campbell ?

But things should be put into context. Those guys didn't have last years O-line; or Marshall, Jeffery, or the Unicorn as targets either.
If TB's O-line is decent, Josh should have a good year.

I can also understand Lovie's declarativeness. It eliminates a PS drama and lets him concentrate on the defense.

As for Mike Glennon ? I'm sure that he feels that there are any number of teams for which he could be the starting QB, so we'll see how that plays out.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 1:23 AM

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"Josh is our QB" sums up why Lovie failed in Chicago. He was too stubborn in his decisions and refused to admit his mistakes. I wish Josh the best of luck because he deserves at least that but I hope that Tampa loses all 16 games and that arrogant a-hole Lovie is back in the unemployment line.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 2:21 AM

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slimnd wrote: "Josh is our QB" sums up why Lovie failed in Chicago. He was too stubborn in his decisions and refused to admit his mistakes. I wish Josh the best of luck because he deserves at least that but I hope that Tampa loses all 16 games and that arrogant a-hole Lovie is back in the unemployment line.

That arrogant a-hole did a lot of the Bears and took us to SB and the NFC championship game. He also had a pretty solid W/L ratio.  So I wish him the best.. besides when he plays the Bears.

 

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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:24 AM

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I was always a Lovie supporter and fan when he was our HC and he did for a lot of good things as our HC. But with every good thing that Lovie did for the beloved, there is also a Johnathan Quinn, a Rex Grossman, a J'Marcus Webb, a Devin Hester is a #1 WR, a Dickfingers, a Roy Williams, a Frank Omiyale, a Mike Tice, a Mike Martz, a Terry Shea, etc, etc, etc.

His defenses won the Bears a ton of games but his offenses also lost the Bears a bunch of games.

He's a great coach, but I can't help but want to see him fail in TB. Especially offensively.


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slimnd wrote: "Josh is our QB" sums up why Lovie failed in Chicago. He was too stubborn in his decisions and refused to admit his mistakes. I wish Josh the best of luck because he deserves at least that but I hope that Tampa loses all 16 games and that arrogant a-hole Lovie is back in the unemployment line.

That arrogant a-hole did a lot of the Bears and took us to SB and the NFC championship game. He also had a pretty solid W/L ratio.  So I wish him the best.. besides when he plays the Bears.

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Posted: 7/26/2014 11:37 AM

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Lovie ''failed'' in Chicago largely because his OC's didn't do a good job.  Standing behind your starters when you bring them in, is a good thing, not a bad one; he did the same in Chicago when JA was bringing in lesser talent, what was he supposed to say, ''our guys suck''?  
slimnd wrote: "Josh is our QB" sums up why Lovie failed in Chicago. He was too stubborn in his decisions and refused to admit his mistakes. I wish Josh the best of luck because he deserves at least that but I hope that Tampa loses all 16 games and that arrogant a-hole Lovie is back in the unemployment line.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 11:53 AM

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Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

"Illusions Micheal, illusions. Tricks are something that a whore does for money.....or cocaine". - Gob Bluth
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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:22 PM

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Only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance.  Do you know how many teams wish they could've said that during that time period.   Lovie had his faults though.  Like you said he was a yes man to his players to much at times. However, if you pushed it to far, you'd get punished, but there was times he needed to get involved sooner. He was not the best judgment of OC talent. He also wasn't the best decider on 4th and short. Would go for it when you thought it should be punted, and would punt it/attempt a really long field goal when most thought he should go for it.   However, the big problem was Angelo wasn't bringing in offensive talent.  Look at our roster now compared to back under Lovie.  Offense looked strong, but for the majority of it was Cutler throwing to people that had no business playing receiver in the NFL.   Knox was his best, and Knox was far from being great. He would be a solid number 3 guy on most teams. Another season Hester was the top receiver.   Some of that is on the HC but I put mostly on the GM. He is the one that has to decide who to go and get.  Look at what Emery has done for the Bears in his short time here as GM.    

I love our HC now, although, I still don't agree with the decision to fire Lovie, I am very happy with who we got in his place and see good things in our future.  

I do hope that Lovie loses at least one game next year.

Cubfan41 wrote:

Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

 

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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:26 PM

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You don't spend half your life coaching defense and not know something about how offenses should work, he left that to his OC's to his detriment, that's what he does. Lovie's guys??  Lovie was behind ALL the players, he's known as a players coach, a guy others want to play for!!  There's nothing wrong with that.  He had Hester go from CB to WR, that's playing it safe???  He was willing to work with what he had to without bad mouthing anyone along the way.  That's why he has league-wide respect.  What ''risks'' has Trestman taken, he's done everything by the book including reinserting Cutler back at QB when McCown was getting it done.  
Cubfan41 wrote:

Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:34 PM

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NJNole28 wrote: Did they let Lovie pick the OC? I am too lazy to look it up, but if he did, Josh better get AFLAC.

Lovie wasn't terrible, but he left the offense to die. I hope Tampa's GM was smart enough to have heavy input in that hire.


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Very possibly the case. But having three "trees" to throw to again will make his life easier and might make him appear to still be much better than he is. We shall see.



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Lovie said his biggest mistake was not paying attention to the offense in Chicago.  After the Bucs draft it looks like he saw the light.  He also watched Chicagos WRs and said he wanted big WRs.  I'm not sure if that was before or after talking with Josh.  A buddy of mine who's a Bucs fan said he read that Lovie spent most of his off time studying film on offenses.  I might go to their TC tomorrow with my pal. I've never been to a TC I wish it was the Bears but any football is good right now.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 1:26 PM

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outkasted2006 wrote:
Only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance.  Do you know how many teams wish they could've said that during that time period.   Lovie had his faults though.  Like you said he was a yes man to his players to much at times. However, if you pushed it to far, you'd get punished, but there was times he needed to get involved sooner. He was not the best judgment of OC talent. He also wasn't the best decider on 4th and short. Would go for it when you thought it should be punted, and would punt it/attempt a really long field goal when most thought he should go for it.   However, the big problem was Angelo wasn't bringing in offensive talent.  Look at our roster now compared to back under Lovie.  Offense looked strong, but for the majority of it was Cutler throwing to people that had no business playing receiver in the NFL.   Knox was his best, and Knox was far from being great. He would be a solid number 3 guy on most teams. Another season Hester was the top receiver.   Some of that is on the HC but I put mostly on the GM. He is the one that has to decide who to go and get.  Look at what Emery has done for the Bears in his short time here as GM.    

I love our HC now, although, I still don't agree with the decision to fire Lovie, I am very happy with who we got in his place and see good things in our future.  

I do hope that Lovie loses at least one game next year.

Cubfan41 wrote:

Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

He was also here for essentially 10 years. It's a performance driven league. And performance is measured by what you do in the playoffs. Winning 3 playoff games in 10 years basically is not getting it done especially since those 3 playoff wins did not equal a SB ring. And quite frankly Lovie be the first guy to admit that.
"Illusions Micheal, illusions. Tricks are something that a whore does for money.....or cocaine". - Gob Bluth

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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:45 PM

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I disagree.  I have gotten annoyed with the coaching carousel that happens all the time.  Lovie got fired at 10-6. Sorry, I don't think Lovie would agree with that.

How many years did he not have offensive players or a good OC? How many of those years was it looking like we were going to the playoffs until important people started getting injured?  Sure in the end these are all "excuses", but they are valid excuses.  Look, I like are head coach now, but really in being honest, Lovie shouldn't have been fired. You don't fire a 10-6 coach.  So that being said, I do wish him well.. anytime he isn't playing the Bears :)
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outkasted2006 wrote:
Only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance.  Do you know how many teams wish they could've said that during that time period.   Lovie had his faults though.  Like you said he was a yes man to his players to much at times. However, if you pushed it to far, you'd get punished, but there was times he needed to get involved sooner. He was not the best judgment of OC talent. He also wasn't the best decider on 4th and short. Would go for it when you thought it should be punted, and would punt it/attempt a really long field goal when most thought he should go for it.   However, the big problem was Angelo wasn't bringing in offensive talent.  Look at our roster now compared to back under Lovie.  Offense looked strong, but for the majority of it was Cutler throwing to people that had no business playing receiver in the NFL.   Knox was his best, and Knox was far from being great. He would be a solid number 3 guy on most teams. Another season Hester was the top receiver.   Some of that is on the HC but I put mostly on the GM. He is the one that has to decide who to go and get.  Look at what Emery has done for the Bears in his short time here as GM.    

I love our HC now, although, I still don't agree with the decision to fire Lovie, I am very happy with who we got in his place and see good things in our future.  

I do hope that Lovie loses at least one game next year.

Cubfan41 wrote:

Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

He was also here for essentially 10 years. It's a performance driven league. And performance is measured by what you do in the playoffs. Winning 3 playoff games in 10 years basically is not getting it done especially since those 3 playoff wins did not equal a SB ring. And quite frankly Lovie be the first guy to admit that.

 

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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:56 PM

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outkasted2006 wrote: I disagree.  I have gotten annoyed with the coaching carousel that happens all the time.  Lovie got fired at 10-6. Sorry, I don't think Lovie would agree with that.

How many years did he not have offensive players or a good OC? How many of those years was it looking like we were going to the playoffs until important people started getting injured?  Sure in the end these are all "excuses", but they are valid excuses.  Look, I like are head coach now, but really in being honest, Lovie shouldn't have been fired. You don't fire a 10-6 coach.  So that being said, I do wish him well.. anytime he isn't playing the Bears :)
Cubfan41 wrote:
outkasted2006 wrote:
Only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance.  Do you know how many teams wish they could've said that during that time period.   Lovie had his faults though.  Like you said he was a yes man to his players to much at times. However, if you pushed it to far, you'd get punished, but there was times he needed to get involved sooner. He was not the best judgment of OC talent. He also wasn't the best decider on 4th and short. Would go for it when you thought it should be punted, and would punt it/attempt a really long field goal when most thought he should go for it.   However, the big problem was Angelo wasn't bringing in offensive talent.  Look at our roster now compared to back under Lovie.  Offense looked strong, but for the majority of it was Cutler throwing to people that had no business playing receiver in the NFL.   Knox was his best, and Knox was far from being great. He would be a solid number 3 guy on most teams. Another season Hester was the top receiver.   Some of that is on the HC but I put mostly on the GM. He is the one that has to decide who to go and get.  Look at what Emery has done for the Bears in his short time here as GM.    

I love our HC now, although, I still don't agree with the decision to fire Lovie, I am very happy with who we got in his place and see good things in our future.  

I do hope that Lovie loses at least one game next year.

Cubfan41 wrote:

Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

He was also here for essentially 10 years. It's a performance driven league. And performance is measured by what you do in the playoffs. Winning 3 playoff games in 10 years basically is not getting it done especially since those 3 playoff wins did not equal a SB ring. And quite frankly Lovie be the first guy to admit that.

10-6 is meaningless without the wins in the playoffs which is where HC earn their dough. And that is what I was getting at. 3 playoff wins in 9 years is not enough and Lovie would be the first guy to admit that. They didn't win enough when it counted most and therefore he was let go along with JA who got the ax the year before.


And doesn't Lovie bare some responsibility with all of that? After all it's his staff therefore he gets to prove who gets hired for what. Lovie specifically wanted Terry Shea and Mike Martz and Mike Tice. As a matter of fact he went out and recruited Shea and Martz to be the OC's. Nobody handed to them with Lovie having no say whatsoever. Lovie also got a say in who we drafted, they weren't all Angelo's picks without any input from Smith. And of course, it's the job of a HC to develop that talent something he proved in 9 years he wasn't capable of.

"Illusions Micheal, illusions. Tricks are something that a whore does for money.....or cocaine". - Gob Bluth
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Posted: 7/26/2014 9:40 PM

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Cubfan41 wrote:
outkasted2006 wrote: I disagree.  I have gotten annoyed with the coaching carousel that happens all the time.  Lovie got fired at 10-6. Sorry, I don't think Lovie would agree with that.

How many years did he not have offensive players or a good OC? How many of those years was it looking like we were going to the playoffs until important people started getting injured?  Sure in the end these are all "excuses", but they are valid excuses.  Look, I like are head coach now, but really in being honest, Lovie shouldn't have been fired. You don't fire a 10-6 coach.  So that being said, I do wish him well.. anytime he isn't playing the Bears :)
Cubfan41 wrote:
outkasted2006 wrote:
Only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance.  Do you know how many teams wish they could've said that during that time period.   Lovie had his faults though.  Like you said he was a yes man to his players to much at times. However, if you pushed it to far, you'd get punished, but there was times he needed to get involved sooner. He was not the best judgment of OC talent. He also wasn't the best decider on 4th and short. Would go for it when you thought it should be punted, and would punt it/attempt a really long field goal when most thought he should go for it.   However, the big problem was Angelo wasn't bringing in offensive talent.  Look at our roster now compared to back under Lovie.  Offense looked strong, but for the majority of it was Cutler throwing to people that had no business playing receiver in the NFL.   Knox was his best, and Knox was far from being great. He would be a solid number 3 guy on most teams. Another season Hester was the top receiver.   Some of that is on the HC but I put mostly on the GM. He is the one that has to decide who to go and get.  Look at what Emery has done for the Bears in his short time here as GM.    

I love our HC now, although, I still don't agree with the decision to fire Lovie, I am very happy with who we got in his place and see good things in our future.  

I do hope that Lovie loses at least one game next year.

Cubfan41 wrote:

Besides being clueless offensively, Lovie was too much of a player's coach. I don't think the inmates ran the asylum exactly but I do think there was not enough accountability. If you were one of Lovie's guys, you got a huge leash and after awhile that IMO began to cost him.

There is no doubt in my mind that Lovie isn't a good NFL HC. He is. But Lovie always seemed to play it safe no matter what in every possible way from personnel to game day decisions and while the Bears never hit rock bottom really under Lovie after 2004 (worst record was 7-9 a few times), the Bears only made the NFC title game twice and 1 SB appearance. I prefer a coach like Trestman who is willing to work outside the box and take risks.

That all said, I stand by what I said the day he was fired and also the day Lovie was hired by Tampa. Thank you Lovie for making the Chicago Bears relevant again after being lost in the wilderness for nearly 15 years under Wanny and Jauron (gags). Best of luck in Tampa, just as long as it doesn't effect the Bears in any negative way!

He was also here for essentially 10 years. It's a performance driven league. And performance is measured by what you do in the playoffs. Winning 3 playoff games in 10 years basically is not getting it done especially since those 3 playoff wins did not equal a SB ring. And quite frankly Lovie be the first guy to admit that.

10-6 is meaningless without the wins in the playoffs which is where HC earn their dough. And that is what I was getting at. 3 playoff wins in 9 years is not enough and Lovie would be the first guy to admit that. They didn't win enough when it counted most and therefore he was let go along with JA who got the ax the year before.


And doesn't Lovie bare some responsibility with all of that? After all it's his staff therefore he gets to prove who gets hired for what. Lovie specifically wanted Terry Shea and Mike Martz and Mike Tice. As a matter of fact he went out and recruited Shea and Martz to be the OC's. Nobody handed to them with Lovie having no say whatsoever. Lovie also got a say in who we drafted, they weren't all Angelo's picks without any input from Smith. And of course, it's the job of a HC to develop that talent something he proved in 9 years he wasn't capable of.

He certainly does bear some responsibility. However, Tell me the offensive stud free agency trades/signings we made to help Cutler(and in the Lovie).  I still fully think Martz might have worked in Chicago. If we would've had a better offensive line and some real receivers for Cutler to throw to.  However, with the receivers we had Martz was a terrible fit. Like I said though, a lot of those seasons where we didn't make the playoffs we had injuries at the worst times that cost us our season.  An excuse, but again I say a valid one.  That being said, I don't fire a 10-6 coach. Regardless if they don't make the playoffs.

 

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