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NFCN - Predicted Order of Finish

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Posted: 6/1/2014 9:46 PM

NFCN - Predicted Order of Finish 


(yes, I had to change the title... it was bugging me)

Rank the division at season's end:


1st: Bears        (major Def - and some *Off* - improvements prove enough to catch the Packers)
2nd: Packers   (should be a solid wild card team)
3rd: Lions         (still have a better Defense & QB situation than the Vikes)
4th: Vikings       (they'll battle for 3rd, but won't get there)





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Last edited 6/3/2014 4:39 PM by Behr34

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Posted: 6/2/2014 2:11 AM

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Behr34 wrote:
Rank the division at season's end:


1st: Bears        (major Def - and some *Off* - improvements prove enough to catch the Packers)
2nd: Packers   (should be a solid wild card team)
3rd: Lions         (still have a better Defense & QB situation than the Vikes)
4th: Vikings       (they'll battle for 3rd, but won't get there)

Records friend, records...


Bears 16-0, Bears win the Super Bowl

Pukers 0-16

Kitties 2-14 (The two wins go against the Pukers)

Viqueens 4-12 (They beat Kitties and Pukers)
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Posted: 6/2/2014 9:51 AM

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Bears schedule looks really tough.  That and the fact that this is a totally new defense is going to have a big impact right at the start.

The Bills game is the only game where you can pencil in a win.  At the 49ers....that's a tough one right there.  The Jets have a very good defense, so that one should be a lot closer than you think.  Packers game is a pencil in loss.  Newton is coming off surgery, but who wants to play that Panthers defense.  The Falcons should be a lot better.  Ok, maybe the Dolphins game is a win.  At the Patriots...nope.

3-5 is not out of the question.

Second half of the season is a night game at Lambeau....uh, yeah.  Home against the Vikings is a win, Bucs as well even though Lovie Smith will really want to stick it to the Bears.  At the Lions on Thanksgiving....not sure about that one.

Romo in December at home..heh, that's a win.  Night game against the Saints...that will be tough, even in Chicago.  Lions at home and Vikings on the road, should be ok with both of those two games..

9-7 after a tough first half of the season seems like a possibility.

The problem is that Cutler cannot beat the Packers.  If they could just split, that might mean the difference between a division win.

No wildcard is coming out of the North.  Seattle, 49ers, Panthers, Saints, not to mention an improved Cardinals team and a Falcons team that should be better.  The only way is to win the division, and that means Cutler has to beat the Packers twice.  That is a difficult thing to imagine.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 10:23 AM

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I wouldn't pencil in the Packers game at home as a "loss."
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Posted: 6/2/2014 10:34 AM

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I don't know how much I'd mind it if we got off to a slower start. Last year we were 4-2, in 2012 we were 7-1, in 2011 we were 8-3. That got us exactly 0 playoff appearances. With a backloaded home schedule, it might be nice to be good in December instead of September for a change.
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Posted: 6/2/2014 12:01 PM

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The 'Bear's overall record' predition comes later, much closer to the start of the regular season, and is a thread that another poster here on the site does officially....  this is just to kill some offseason time and get a feel what other's feel about the rest of the division.



GameBear wrote:
Behr34 wrote:
Rank the division at season's end:


1st: Bears        (major Def - and some *Off* - improvements prove enough to catch the Packers)
2nd: Packers   (should be a solid wild card team)
3rd: Lions         (still have a better Defense & QB situation than the Vikes)
4th: Vikings       (they'll battle for 3rd, but won't get there)

Records friend, records...


Bears 16-0, Bears win the Super Bowl

Pukers 0-16

Kitties 2-14 (The two wins go against the Pukers)

Viqueens 4-12 (They beat Kitties and Pukers)





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Posted: 6/2/2014 1:58 PM

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Cutler finally did enough to beat the Packers last season. Unfortunately the defense couldn't slow the packers down.

Let's be real, if any idiot on defense does as their trained and picks up that loose ball, it's a whole different ball game. As far as the division rankings go...

Packers
Bears
Lions
Vikings

With the new coaching staff, I think the Lions could easily end up 2nd. Vikings have some good coaches in place too, with a lot of young and developing talent. But their qb situation is fart noises.

Overall I think this division got a lot better

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Posted: 6/3/2014 8:02 AM

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I cannot argue with your post, and I do agree with you on Rodgers masking a lot holes but I think the division is there for the Bears to take, then the Leos and Pack fighting it out for a wild card.  The Vikings will play hard, but are not ready for prime time yet.
Anytime23 wrote: Cutler finally did enough to beat the Packers last season. Unfortunately the defense couldn't slow the packers down.

Let's be real, if any idiot on defense does as their trained and picks up that loose ball, it's a whole different ball game. As far as the division rankings go...

Packers
Bears
Lions
Vikings

With the new coaching staff, I think the Lions could easily end up 2nd. Vikings have some good coaches in place too, with a lot of young and developing talent. But their qb situation is fart noises.

Overall I think this division got a lot better
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Posted: 6/3/2014 9:47 AM

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I think the whole division is going to be very very close but I will wager the following:

Bears
Packers
Vikings
Lions
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Posted: 6/3/2014 10:43 AM

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Jeez do you really hate the Bears and love the Packers? You honestly think the Bears will be 2nd or 3rd?

I think the Lions and Vikings are going to be terrible next year. Both have new head coaches and are in a transition period on their systems.

The Packers have Rodgers and Eddie Lacy on O and Clay Matthews, AJ Hawk plus a washed up Julius Peppers on D.  If the Bears had been healthy on D last year I think they would have won the division for sure.  Just a string of bad luck with injuries but that's football. The Packers squeaked into the playoffs last year with a crappy record, needed a bonehead play by the worst safety in the NFL to get in, and got blown out.  

The Bears have a very good o line, a pro bowl RB, two pro bowl WR's, a very talented QB and TE, plus a revamped defense with a future HOF DE plus significantly more talent at key positions.  I don't see where the Packers are better roster wise than the Bears.  They are loaded on talent and poised to make a deep run if they stay healthy. They are my pick for the division crown this year and could go far in the post season if they stay healthy.

Bears
Packers
Lions
Vikings

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Cutler finally did enough to beat the Packers last season. Unfortunately the defense couldn't slow the packers down.

Let's be real, if any idiot on defense does as their trained and picks up that loose ball, it's a whole different ball game. As far as the division rankings go...

Packers
Bears
Lions
Vikings

With the new coaching staff, I think the Lions could easily end up 2nd. Vikings have some good coaches in place too, with a lot of young and developing talent. But their qb situation is fart noises.

Overall I think this division got a lot better

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Posted: 6/3/2014 12:32 PM

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize I wrote such hateful things about the Bears and such loving things about the Packers. Seriously, what is wrong with some of you? Can a Bears fan be objective without getting ridiculed? Year after year the Packers finish above the Bears and like I say every season, I'll pick the Bears when they prove they can play with the Packers regularly.

I'm just being completely honest, I don't see the Bears better than the Packers and I think the Lions coaching staff is the x-factor for them. I said they could finish second yet somehow you believe I set it in stone.

People can just completely dismiss everything other teams do and greatly over exaggerate what the Bears have done. The Bears god awful defense is suddenly revamped without proving anything and all the packers did was sign the aging Julius Peppers. I don't see him doing much this season but I'd be willing to bet on him playing well vs the Bears. He lives for rivalry games and I bet he wants to prove something.

Bears could win the division but I'm going Packers. Big surprise right? What a Rodgers fan-boy....blah blah blah

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Jeez do you really hate the Bears and love the Packers? You honestly think the Bears will be 2nd or 3rd?

I think the Lions and Vikings are going to be terrible next year. Both have new head coaches and are in a transition period on their systems.

The Packers have Rodgers and a washed up Julius Peppers on D.

The Bears have an exciting dynamic system on offense and a revamped defense. They are loaded on talent and poised to make a deep run if they stay healthy. They are my pick for the division crown this year and could go far in the post season if they stay healthy.

Bears
Packers
Lions
Vikings

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--- Anytime23 wrote:

Cutler finally did enough to beat the Packers last season. Unfortunately the defense couldn't slow the packers down.

Let's be real, if any idiot on defense does as their trained and picks up that loose ball, it's a whole different ball game. As far as the division rankings go...

Packers
Bears
Lions
Vikings

With the new coaching staff, I think the Lions could easily end up 2nd. Vikings have some good coaches in place too, with a lot of young and developing talent. But their qb situation is fart noises.

Overall I think this division got a lot better

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Posted: 6/3/2014 1:36 PM

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Thompson probably did not feel like they needed to make a lot of moves, just need to stay healthy.  They had quite a few key guys miss a lot of time. Rodgers, Bulaga, Matthews, Finley, Cobb just off the top of my head.  And they gave SF all they could handle in the playoffs.  No reason to think they will not be formidable again.

Optimism for the Bears though; for the first time since 2010, they actually seemed like they closed the gap last year. And had even more injuries than the Packers plus playing for the first time in forever without Lovie-Urlacher-Marinelli.  The two teams were very close at the end of last year and I would expect them to be close again.

I disagree with the comments that the Bears have no chance at SF, CAR, NE, and GB.  They will be able to compete in those games.  Correct me if I'm wrong but none of them went undefeated last year.  Questions is, can the Bears pull out 2 or even 3 of those close games on the road against quality opponents.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 3:17 PM

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I have high hopes for the Bears this year and think they have a great shot.  But the Pack have owned the division recently and I'll pick them to win it until proven otherwise.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 3:20 PM

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I will bet my mortgage that we walk into Charlotte & beat the Panties this year.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 3:25 PM

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Wow, that's quite a prediction.  They have a top 3 D and Cam can run hot and cold, but when he's hot......  Not sure if I believe enough in our D to think we'll win that one.  But if they look good early I think we'll have a shot against anyone.
Gibby13 wrote: I will bet my mortgage that we walk into Charlotte & beat the Panties this year.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 4:30 PM

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Agreed.  However, living in Charlotte has allowed me to watch every game for the last 3 years, when they don't coincide with the Bears.  I think the Panthers will really struggle to score this year.  Sure, Cam can run hot but when your main targets are Jason Avant, rookie Kelvin Benjamin & Jerricho Cotchery, that doesn't exactly scream All-Pro.

I'm most overrating the Bears & underrating the Panties but I just think that NO & ATL will battle for the division this year & if the Panthers don't shut down their opponent every game, then they are going to struggle to win.  And if we can find a way to block Greg Hardy & somewhat neutralize Kuechly, great chance for a Bears W...

Ontherebound wrote: Wow, that's quite a prediction.  They have a top 3 D and Cam can run hot and cold, but when he's hot......  Not sure if I believe enough in our D to think we'll win that one.  But if they look good early I think we'll have a shot against anyone.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 4:53 PM

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Anytime, I wasn't ridiculing you but come on! Second or even third behind the Lions? You must really hate the Bears. They nearly won the division with a historically bad defense. You just are being a stick in the mud and your rationale behind it is "meh, the Packers did it umpteen times in the past so they'll probably just do it again". Where is your optimism or belief in the team you root for? And please educate the rest of us so called Meatball Bears Fans on why you think the Packers and possibly the Lions will finish ahead of the Bears...and please be specific other than "the Packers did it last year."

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Posted: 6/3/2014 7:32 PM

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Muntz wrote: Anytime, I wasn't ridiculing you but come on! Second or even third behind the Lions? You must really hate the Bears. They nearly won the division with a historically bad defense. You just are being a stick in the mud and your rationale behind it is "meh, the Packers did it umpteen times in the past so they'll probably just do it again". Where is your optimism or belief in the team you root for? And please educate the rest of us so called Meatball Bears Fans on why you think the Packers and possibly the Lions will finish ahead of the Bears...and please be specific other than "the Packers did it last year."

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Posted: 6/3/2014 9:12 PM

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The Packers were just as decimated by injuries as the Bears and one of the best couple players in football missed most of the season.  The Bears did a better job adding talent to shore up their D than the Packers did to shore up theirs which is why I think the Bears are capable of not only surpassing the Pack but of challenging for the SB.  But theirs a lot of "ifs" with the Bears.  They have to gel all this new personnel on D, stay healthy, and hope teams don't catch up to their O.  I can't pick against the Pack......yet.  By the end of camp I might expect the Bears to be better.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 9:35 PM

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Muntz wrote: Anytime, I wasn't ridiculing you but come on! Second or even third behind the Lions? Again, i predicted them to finish second and third is a possibility. I think Jim Caldwell was a solid hire by them. Why did all of us want Jim Schwartz to stick around? Because he was a pud who had undisciplined teams. I have the Bears finishing above the Bears but somehow saying they could finish ahead=me saying they will. You must really hate the Bears. i feel like im being trolled They nearly won the division with a historically bad defense. and the Bears backup QB played historically well. Rodgers was injured what, 6 games? Like mentioned, Packers had some big injuries. You just are being a stick in the mud and your rationale behind it is "meh, the Packers did it umpteen times in the past so they'll probably just do it again". I just dont know what you want me to say. I can lie and just say Bears #1 and everyone can feel happy knowing that this forum just added one more yes man to the group. Its not as simple as you make it seem. I didnt want to get into it because it makes a lot of posters butt hurt but i'll pick the Packers over the Bears because of...you guessed it. Aaron Rodgers. IMO the best player in football. Until the Bears and Cutler can beat the Packers with a healthy Rodgers and more than once every 4-5 years, then i could see myself putting the Bears at the top.  Where is your optimism or belief in the team you root for? I do have optimism. I have optimism that another year with the same offense, Cutler will shine. I have optimism that the off-season acquisitions on D will pay dividends. Do i believe they will finish first? No, i dont. And please educate the rest of us so called Meatball Bears Fans on why you think the Packers and possibly the Lions will finish ahead of the Bears...and please be specific other than "the Packers did it last year." Where did i call everyone meatheads? Why dont you try reading what i post and do it slowly. I SAID THE LIONS COULD EASILY FINISH SECOND BECAUSE OF THEIR NEW COACHING STAFF. Theyve had the talent to compete. Maybe theyll finally be mentally tough enough to do something relevant. And i already said why i think the Packers will finish ahead. Im sorry but i dont see this Bears team as some kind of talented powerhouse that stands above the rest of the division like some others here do. Theres no education needed. 

But i guess this season will be like the last as far as this board goes. I have a difference of opinion so i'll be villainized, attacked and have my threads locked despite not breaking a single rule on this forum. Hey, maybe more homophobic insults about me blowing Aaron Rodgers will lighten the mood. We all know the guys in charge will look the other way. Cant have a Bears fan be honest about thinking another team is better than the Bears and that a SB/League MVP is actually, you know...Good at football. People want to keep treating me like a trolling Packer fan and wonder why i gloated when the Bears got eliminated from playoff contention. No period of mourning. Nope. Immediate gloating. 

Lets vote, should AT23 be honest, be a biased homer or become a Packer fan? The first option doesnt seem to be popular. Lets figure this out.

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