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Darrius Heyward-Bey a potential cap casualty
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:11 PM
Darrius Heyward-Bey a potential cap casualty
The Bears have expressed the desire to add a field stretching WR. Jason La Canfora of cbssports had a recent article of players that are rumored to be cap casualties. One of them is the Oakland Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey. He ran a 4.2 at his combine and had respectable numbers in 2011. Watching some Oakland games, he did also run a lot of routes over the middle, so the slot could be a fit. He is 6'2" 210lbs, so with Marshall, Jeffery, and DHB you would have some serious size to defend.
He would be my first choice if he does in fact become available.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:15 PM
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I'd rather see Julian Edleman: likely cheaper, good special teams player, tough, versatile, can replace hester.
I do not watch a lot of Oakland games but from what I have seen I do not believe that 4.2 40 is DHB's game speed.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:21 PM
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soupy75 wrote: I'd rather see Julian Edleman: likely cheaper, good special teams player, tough, versatile, can replace hester.
I do not watch a lot of Oakland games but from what I have seen I do not believe that 4.2 40 is DHB's game speed. Admittedly, I don't know much about Edleman, but is he a "field stretcher"? I thought he was more of a quick, possession slot guy, not a burner. He would most certainly be cheaper I would think, though.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:32 PM
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DHB has been an under achiever and a huge disappointment for a 1st round draft choice. He lacks receiver instincts and skills. Being fast is not enough to make a good receiver.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:39 PM
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Jago. He was overdrafted no doubt. Frankly, that has nothing to do with picking him up as a free agent though. He certainly isn't a polished WR, but I think he would be just fine as our #3. In 2011 he had good production overall (64 receptions, 975 yards, 4TD's in 15 games), it just wasn't in line with expectation of his draft status, which was a joke to begin with.
He isn't for everyone. I think he makes an intriguing option and a good discussion.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 2:38 PM
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IRUSHTHROUGH wrote: Jago. He was overdrafted no doubt. Frankly, that has nothing to do with picking him up as a free agent though. He certainly isn't a polished WR, but I think he would be just fine as our #3. In 2011 he had good production overall (64 receptions, 975 yards, 4TD's in 15 games), it just wasn't in line with expectation of his draft status, which was a joke to begin with.
He isn't for everyone. I think he makes an intriguing option and a good discussion. +1
It's an interesting thought. The Bears do need a burner because JA seems to be more of a posession receiver then he is a go up top guy. For the right price, he could be intriguing as the third receiver trying to really stretch the field as BM and JA run underneath.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 3:07 PM
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DHB and Edelman are completely different types of players who could both help the Bears if we were to acquire them.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:03 PM
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Yes. Exactly what we need.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 7:42 PM
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One of my brothers is a Raiders fan and he says that DHB is frustrating , he will flash big time talent in one game then nothing for the next three. My youngest brother is a Pats fan and he said that Edelman is a Welker or Amendola type quick not fast slot/returner type.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 9:02 PM
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It would all depend on who we bring in as WR coach. DHB still has some growth to do. Reminds me of Benard Berrian.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:01 PM
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DHB has shown flashes of what he could do, but he's extremely inconsistent. A guy like that isn't even guaranteed to win a starting job.
If I'm looking at bringing in a free-agent WR, then what about a guy like Mike Wallace? He can definately stretch the field, if that is what we are looking for anyways.
I'd be good with Edelman for sure, though.
NFL Live (Hoge) offered up an interesting scenario for the Bears last night...what about adding Wes Welker? The guy dominates from the slot and Hoge said that he'd be the perfect fit for the "timing based" pass offense that Trestman is bringing with him. It's definately an interesting name. Maybe Welker wouldn't be my top choice due to his age, to be the guy working the slot. Danny Amendola is also an interesting name to fil that role. Not deep threats by any means, but sure-handed guys who create mismatches, get open in the short and intermediate routes and help the QB move the chains.
Just a thought. It all depends on Trestman and what he wants to do with the WR's and the offense.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:18 PM
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Yes, I agree Edelman doesn't stretch the field like Wallace would but I am not as concerned with that as I am in replacing Hester with a better receiver. This is also why I like Edelman more than welker. When welker was out with injury, Edelman stepped in for him and didn't miss a beat (slight exaggeration). Plus Edelman will play STs, is cheaper, is younger, and has fewer injuries. A burner can be gotten in the draft. I also would consider amendola for the same reasons.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:07 PM
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I think Danny Amendola would be a good fit, if he could only stay healthy.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:58 PM
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Bearsfan247 wrote: DHB has shown flashes of what he could do, but he's extremely inconsistent. A guy like that isn't even guaranteed to win a starting job. He doesn't really need to be a starter. It would appear that we have our starters in AJ and BM on the outside. DHB would be the #3 for the purposes of this hypothetical discussion. He comes in when we have 3 wide sets and helps stretch the field from the slot, or periodically gives Marshall or Jeffery breathers.
If I'm looking at bringing in a free-agent WR, then what about a guy like Mike Wallace? He can definately stretch the field, if that is what we are looking for anyways. Wallace is going to be out way out of our price range considering Marshall's $9-$10M annual contract and using a 2nd rd pick on a WR a year prior.
I'd be good with Edelman for sure, though. IMO, we have enough possession WR's. Emery stated that he specifically wants a field stretcher this offseason, hence the DHB thread mention on my part.
NFL Live (Hoge) offered up an interesting scenario for the Bears last night...what about adding Wes Welker? The guy dominates from the slot and Hoge said that he'd be the perfect fit for the "timing based" pass offense that Trestman is bringing with him. It's definately an interesting name. Maybe Welker wouldn't be my top choice due to his age, to be the guy working the slot. Danny Amendola is also an interesting name to fil that role. Not deep threats by any means, but sure-handed guys who create mismatches, get open in the short and intermediate routes and help the QB move the chains. Welker, like Wallace, will be too expensive and is another possession guy. Amendola, as mentioned above, is a walking injury and would be too risky for my liking unless he comes on the super cheap.
Just a thought. It all depends on Trestman and what he wants to do with the WR's and the offense.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:09 AM
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soupy75 wrote: Yes, I agree Edelman doesn't stretch the field like Wallace would but I am not as concerned with that as I am in replacing Hester with a better receiver. This is also why I like Edelman more than welker. When welker was out with injury, Edelman stepped in for him and didn't miss a beat (slight exaggeration). Plus Edelman will play STs, is cheaper, is younger, and has fewer injuries. A burner can be gotten in the draft. I also would consider amendola for the same reasons. You might not be concerned with getting a field stretcher, but Emery has stated that he is in fact concerned with addressing that need. You don't think DHB is a better WR than Hester? I do and he is young and still improving. We only have 5 draft picks. I wouldn't want us to waste one of our 5 on a WR with all of the other needs like G, C, T, MLB, TE. Chances are 50/50 that DHB even gets released, but if he is I want him as our #3.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:34 AM
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IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:The Bears have expressed the desire to add a field stretching WR. Jason La Canfora of cbssports had a recent article of players that are rumored to be cap casualties. One of them is the Oakland Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey. He ran a 4.2 at his combine and had respectable numbers in 2011. Watching some Oakland games, he did also run a lot of routes over the middle, so the slot could be a fit. He is 6'2" 210lbs, so with Marshall, Jeffery, and DHB you would have some serious size to defend.
He would be my first choice if he does in fact become available.
He did have the fastest 40 time in the draft when he came out, followed by Johnny knox. I thought he was a reach for the Raiders where they picked him but A Davis always like to draft speed. I don't think he would like to be the third wheel , know what i mean .
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Posted: 2/8/2013 2:28 AM
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I wouldn't use him in the slot too much. I would put him on the outside and have him run 9 routes all game. When he's sick of running 9 routes, Alshon or Earl can come in and give him a breather. Then he can go back on the field and run more 9 routes. Cutler throws the best deep ball in the league, other than Flacco and Moobs. For the love of God, get the man a receiver than can run down the field. I repeated all offseason how stagnant our offense was going to be, and that's one of the main reasons that unit sucked.
Last edited 2/8/2013 2:29 AM by ChiFan24
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Posted: 2/8/2013 7:57 AM
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DHB or amondola would be good pick ups !!! there are alot of rumors of players that may be released for cap reasons ! I hope that emery is keeping a close eye on the FA,s that become available !
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Posted: 2/8/2013 8:08 AM
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IRUSHTHROUGH wrote: Jago. He was overdrafted no doubt. Frankly, that has nothing to do with picking him up as a free agent though. He certainly isn't a polished WR, but I think he would be just fine as our #3. In 2011 he had good production overall (64 receptions, 975 yards, 4TD's in 15 games), it just wasn't in line with expectation of his draft status, which was a joke to begin with.
He isn't for everyone. I think he makes an intriguing option and a good discussion. I agree. His draft stock and position he was taken was all because of the combine. The size and speed combo, Al Davis still has a stiffy(RIP). In a draft that was loaded with quality receivers in the first round, for him to go first and that high was nothing short of insane. But hes shown development as of late. Injuries have been an issue. As big of a non fan as ive been in recent years, id love the pickup. More size at the WR position but with the speed this corps has been lacking.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 11:09 AM
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Bearsfan247 wrote:
If I'm looking at bringing in a free-agent WR, then what about a guy like Mike Wallace? He can definately stretch the field, if that is what we are looking for anyways. I'd love to have him on the team but I think he will want too much money. Not sure how he would feel being second banana to Marshall as well.
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