If we draft a safety i quit.  If we draft a safety this year,
I will throw away every thing that has to do with the Chicago Bears, and i own a lot. Heck i even have Chicago Bears Christmas ornaments. I know our safeties are injured often, BUT, 
I can live with that, sign one of the street for pete's sake!!!!  If we draft a safety, my children will not be allowed to be Bear fans, my wife will not be allowed to ............to something.
If we draft a safety , I will allow some of my Packer friends to talk crap in my house.
The Bears always make one "raise an eyebrow" when they draft.    
I was kidding of coarse....................... my wife could do anything she wants.

Well, prepare yourself.

Walterfootball.com reported that the Bears spent "extra" time (as in a 2nd interview) with the Alabama safety that was at the Senior Bowl.

Bearsfan247 wrote: Well, prepare yourself.

Walterfootball.com reported that the Bears spent "extra" time (as in a 2nd interview) with the Alabama safety that was at the Senior Bowl.

LOL yeah i should have known that . I would give them the benefit of doubt, I'm a sucker.

But there is hope........we currently do not have a 3rd round pick that we can use on another safety. Lol.

3 years in a row, we used a 3rd rounder on the safety position (Wright, Conte, Hardin). Yet, Conte and Wright did a pretty damn good job together last season. If only they could stay healthy.

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Bearsfan247 wrote: Well, prepare yourself.

Walterfootball.com reported that the Bears spent "extra" time (as in a 2nd interview) with the Alabama safety that was at the Senior Bowl.

LOL yeah i should have known that . I would give them the benefit of doubt, I'm a sucker.

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Our traditional Safety's are great going into next year, but we definitely need a Slot Corner / Nickle / Hybrid Safety guy. I'm not a fan of Kelvin Hayden, and DJ Moore has ball skills but he's not the best in coverage.

Totally agree.

I think Moore, Hayden and Bowman are all going to be free-agents? That leaves Tillman, Jennings and McMannis...all will be in their contract seasons.

We need to add some depth at DB in general. I wouldn't be opposed to to the Bears using their 1st rounder on a CB, to be honest. There are some stud CB's in this draft class.

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Our traditional Safety's are great going into next year, but we definitely need a Slot Corner / Nickle / Hybrid Safety guy. I'm not a fan of Kelvin Hayden, and DJ Moore has ball skills but he's not the best in coverage.

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Bearsfan247 wrote: Totally agree.

I think Moore, Hayden and Bowman are all going to be free-agents? That leaves Tillman, Jennings and McMannis...all will be in their contract seasons.

We need to add some depth at DB in general. I wouldn't be opposed to to the Bears using their 1st rounder on a CB, to be honest. There are some stud CB's in this draft class.

1st rounder on a CB?  You like getting flamed don't you . LOL. 
Isn't this suppose to be a deep draft in DB's?

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Bearsfan247 wrote: Totally agree.

I think Moore, Hayden and Bowman are all going to be free-agents? That leaves Tillman, Jennings and McMannis...all will be in their contract seasons.

We need to add some depth at DB in general. I wouldn't be opposed to to the Bears using their 1st rounder on a CB, to be honest. There are some stud CB's in this draft class.

1st rounder on a CB?  You like getting flamed don't you . LOL. 
Isn't this suppose to be a deep draft in DB's?

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Lol.

I just figure it this way....at pick #20, I don't wanna reach for a "need." If the Bears have a CB rated very high on their draft board and he's available at #20, then I have no zero issue with the Bears taking said CB.

And yeah...this draft is said to be extremely deep at CB. But that wouldn't stop me from taking one in round 1, if he's the best available.

If Elam fell to our pick in the 4th rd, I wouldn't be upset if the Bears picked him.

I gotta figure the majority of the picks and critical picks will come on the O side of the ball.  Depends on the FA signings.

DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Certainly a need, but not the greatest need by any stretch of the imagination!

HateNumber8 wrote: DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Interesting statement.  His off the field stuff is not criminal related, so I don't care to be honest.  I also think GM's will care less than people are speculating if he can answer their questions during his interviews to eleviate their concerns about the hoax.  He played at an elite level for 4 years and is the best 3 down MLB in this draft class.  

A GM will draft him based on tape evaluation and the kid has a ton of great tape for a GM to witness and assess his draft status.

I'd draft him at 20 without hesitation unless there was an elite OL available at that spot.  Prior to that hoax situation coming to light he was a consensus top 10 pick.  That silly situation could benefit us greatly.

IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:

HateNumber8 wrote: DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Interesting statement.  His off the field stuff is not criminal related, so I don't care to be honest.  I also think GM's will care less than people are speculating if he can answer their questions during his interviews to eleviate their concerns about the hoax.  He played at an elite level for 4 years and is the best 3 down MLB in this draft class.  

A GM will draft him based on tape evaluation and the kid has a ton of great tape for a GM to witness and assess his draft status.

I'd draft him at 20 without hesitation unless there was an elite OL available at that spot.  Prior to that hoax situation coming to light he was a consensus top 10 pick.  That silly situation could benefit us greatly.

I like the kid a lot and think he'll be a terrific 2 down MLB but I'm not sure if he's a guy who'll stay on the field on 3rd down.  I know he had a bunch of picks this year but most seemed like tipped balls where he gets thumbs up for his awareness but I didn't see a lot of times where he was in man coverage.  I think he's a lot like Laurinaitis where that awareness helped in college but won't be enough in the pros to make up for difficencies in that area.

IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:

HateNumber8 wrote: DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Interesting statement.  His off the field stuff is not criminal related, so I don't care to be honest.  I also think GM's will care less than people are speculating if he can answer their questions during his interviews to eleviate their concerns about the hoax.  He played at an elite level for 4 years and is the best 3 down MLB in this draft class.  

A GM will draft him based on tape evaluation and the kid has a ton of great tape for a GM to witness and assess his draft status.

I'd draft him at 20 without hesitation unless there was an elite OL available at that spot.  Prior to that hoax situation coming to light he was a consensus top 10 pick.  That silly situation could benefit us greatly.

As I'm sure others have seen, a few mocks have had the Bears taking T'eo. I also saw one that had the Bears taking Kevin Minter, the LSU lb'er.

Yeah a few mocks have us taking T'eo and it makes me nervous.  The guy's a head case and brings bad publicity...  He's become the joke of the internet and with all that looming over his head I don't think he could ever do enough to change that perception in the NFL and it has a good possibility of ruining his career before it ever gets started.

If they draft another S early without seeing what Hardin can do now he's healthy would be a waste IMO.  The kid has some good potential and we have some decent Ss already.

IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:

HateNumber8 wrote: DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Interesting statement.  His off the field stuff is not criminal related, so I don't care to be honest.

Neither was Alonzo Spellman's.

Teo is a certified nut case.

JA ignored the obvious warnings with Sam Hurd, Chris Williams, and others.

PE should not ignore the obvious warnings. It's too early in his career for that type of gamble.

seeters wrote:

IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:

HateNumber8 wrote: DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Interesting statement.  His off the field stuff is not criminal related, so I don't care to be honest.

Neither was Alonzo Spellman's.

Teo is a certified nut case.

JA ignored the obvious warnings with Sam Hurd, Chris Williams, and others.

PE should not ignore the obvious warnings. It's too early in his career for that type of gamble.

Certified nut case?  You are comparing Te'o to Spellman over the overblown hoax thing?  Spellman was bi-polar.  

You have me laughing.  I sure as hell hope that was a joke or you are completely misguided.

Hurd was criminal.  Williams was medical (and lazy as hell).  Spellman was mental (confirmed mental, not assumed mental).  Te'o's is none of the above. 

Brandon Marshall fell under the "nut case" (BPD) category as well.  That turned out just fine if memory serves me correctly.  So you can make the case either way.

While it is a red flag on him, it is one of the most overblown "character concerns" I have ever witnessed.  If he can produce on the field, that's all I really care about because he simply is not a trouble maker.

IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:

seeters wrote:

IRUSHTHROUGH wrote:

HateNumber8 wrote: DO NOT DRAFT MANTI T'EO!

Interesting statement.  His off the field stuff is not criminal related, so I don't care to be honest.

Neither was Alonzo Spellman's.

Teo is a certified nut case.

JA ignored the obvious warnings with Sam Hurd, Chris Williams, and others.

PE should not ignore the obvious warnings. It's too early in his career for that type of gamble.

Certified nut case?  You are comparing Te'o to Spellman over the overblown hoax thing?  Spellman was bi-polar.  

You have me laughing.  I sure as hell hope that was a joke or you are completely misguided.

Hurd was criminal.  Williams was medical (and lazy as hell).  Spellman was mental (confirmed mental, not assumed mental).  Te'o's is none of the above. 

Brandon Marshall fell under the "nut case" (BPD) category as well.  That turned out just fine if memory serves me correctly.  So you can make the case either way.

While it is a red flag on him, it is one of the most overblown "character concerns" I have ever witnessed.  If he can produce on the field, that's all I really care about because he simply is not a trouble maker.

Spellman: No. I was not comparing Te'o to Spellman over the overblown hoax thing. I was saying that Spelliman's mental issues were not criminally related in an answer to your point about Teo's off field issues not being criminal in nature. Go back and read it.

Hurd and Williams: Again, I was not comparing the nature if the red flags of Hurd and Williams with the nature of the red flag with Te'o. I am well aware that they are different. I was referring to the point that JA ignored the red flags and took the risks, having nothing to do with the type of red flags they were.

Marshall: PE was in a position to gamble with Marshall, he didn't have a rookie HC like he does now, and Marshalls upside was a completely different situation. He was a proven Pro bowler with multiple 1000 yard seasons and his mental problems had been diagnosed. Te'o is is an unproven rookie who's mental issues have only been scratched the surface of the depth of his disorders.

Overblown?

Have you read the extent of the Jeremy Schapp interview, seen his Katie Couric interview, and read the transcripts from the PCs of his AD, HC, and DC?

This is not just a case of a naive kid getting fooled on the internet. He refused to believe she was dead, he refused to believe she wasn't real, and he refused to believe she didn't love him. As of the Schapp interview, he repeated many times that he was not sure if she was really alive or not, and Schapp himself had to point out that Teo kept referring to her as a real person. Teo later admitted that even after Tueosopo sp? confessed the whole story on the phone that he refused to believe it. Only after Tuoesopo met him in person and repeated the fake voice was he convinced.

Deadspin had originally reported that Teo called his coach at 4:30 am the day after Christmas to tell him it was a hoax. They had the call and the date right, but both Teo and his coach (his DC) confirmed that the call was to tell his coach that the girlfriend was still alive, not that it was a hoax. The coach angrily told him, "No, Manti, she's dead" and hung up. (Meaning: "you're getting played, idiot")

This is why I call him a nutjob. Couric knows it. Schapp knows it. Tueosopo certainly knows it. Read up on it before you call my opinion completely misguided.

As mentioned by others, the laughing stock aspect of it adds to the red flag. It can only be a hindrance to an obviously fragile mind.

seeters wrote:

Spellman: No. I was not comparing Te'o to Spellman over the overblown hoax thing. I was saying that Spelliman's mental issues were not criminally related in an answer to your point about Teo's off field issues not being criminal in nature. Go back and read it.

Hurd and Williams: Again, I was not comparing the nature if the red flags of Hurd and Williams with the nature of the red flag with Te'o. I am well aware that they are different. I was referring to the point that JA ignored the red flags and took the risks, having nothing to do with the type of red flags they were.

Marshall: PE was in a position to gamble with Marshall, he didn't have a rookie HC like he does now, and Marshalls upside was a completely different situation. He was a proven Pro bowler with multiple 1000 yard seasons and his mental problems had been diagnosed. Te'o is is an unproven rookie who's mental issues have only been scratched the surface of the depth of his disorders.

Overblown?

Have you read the extent of the Jeremy Schapp interview, seen his Katie Couric interview, and read the transcripts from the PCs of his AD, HC, and DC?

This is not just a case of a naive kid getting fooled on the internet. He refused to believe she was dead, he refused to believe she wasn't real, and he refused to believe she didn't love him. As of the Schapp interview, he repeated many times that he was not sure if she was really alive or not, and Schapp himself had to point out that Teo kept referring to her as a real person. Teo later admitted that even after Tueosopo sp? confessed the whole story on the phone that he refused to believe it. Only after Tuoesopo met him in person and repeated the fake voice was he convinced.

Deadspin had originally reported that Teo called his coach at 4:30 am the day after Christmas to tell him it was a hoax. They had the call and the date right, but both Teo and his coach (his DC) confirmed that the call was to tell his coach that the girlfriend was still alive, not that it was a hoax. The coach angrily told him, "No, Manti, she's dead" and hung up. (Meaning: "you're getting played, idiot")

This is why I call him a nutjob. Couric knows it. Schapp knows it. Tueosopo certainly knows it. Read up on it before you call my opinion completely misguided.

As mentioned by others, the laughing stock aspect of it adds to the red flag. It can only be a hindrance to an obviously fragile mind.

I was specifically questioning the references to Spellman, Hurd and Williams.  They are not the same thing.  I was saying your mention of Spellman as if it were relatable to the Te'o situation was misguided.  You are entitled to your opinion of the Te'o situation in and of itself.  I am not questioning that since it is a matter of personal opinion if you think it impacts his ability to play NFL ball.

But if you weren't comparing Spellman, Hurd, and Williams...what the hell was the point of your post in regard to mine?  I guess there wasn't one if you are now saying you were not comparing them.

I am an ND fan, so I have read the transcripts and seen the interviews.  I just don't find it so concerning that it would impact his ability to play in the NFL at a starter level.  You can point to mental frailty all you want, but he would not have been able to be the leader of the ND team, not just it's defense, for 3 years if he were truly a weak minded individual.  

He looks like a complete moron with egg on his face and he possibly could be a complete moron overall for all I know, but I don't see that impeding his ability to play in the NFL.  There are a lot of rock heads out there performing at elite levels.