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Bad News for Middle Income Families

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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:29 AM

Bad News for Middle Income Families 


Cheapest Obamacare plan will cost $20,000 a year for families


I love that we all have access to "affordable" health insurance now. LOL
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:00 AM

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sturg33 wrote: Cheapest Obamacare plan will cost $20,000 a year for families


I love that we all have access to "affordable" health insurance now. LOL
This is going to kill those making $60-80k a year... Because folks in that income level generally don't always have employer health care.  People making over $100k generally do.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:01 AM

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What's going to happen when employers stop providing it?
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:05 AM

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sturg33 wrote: What's going to happen when employers stop providing it?
Then we're all going to get screwed, but isn't there a tax break in Obamacare for companies to provide health care for their employees?  

Still, even today most plans require some payment from their employees, so even splitting that $20k to $10k would be helpful.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:31 AM

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When is there ever good news for middle income families?
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Posted: 2/1/2013 12:15 PM

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acesfull86 wrote: When is there ever good news for middle income families?
QFT

Everything panders to the rich and panders to the poor.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 12:31 PM

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we will be pushing for single payer now hopefully instead of this horrible 1990s watered down republican idea
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Posted: 2/1/2013 1:23 PM

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crump7 wrote: we will be pushing for single payer now hopefully instead of this horrible 1990s watered down republican idea

You like to harp on the republican idea. While you're totally right, why don't you blame your god Obama for signing it?
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Posted: 2/1/2013 1:32 PM

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sturg33 wrote:
crump7 wrote: we will be pushing for single payer now hopefully instead of this horrible 1990s watered down republican idea

You like to harp on the republican idea. While you're totally right, why don't you blame your god Obama for signing it?
first he isn't a god or my god

2nd, i don't like that he caved to the "republicans" and went that route but maybe it is the first step towards single payer and it is the way to get in the door
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Posted: 2/1/2013 1:35 PM

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Ahh, so you blame the republicans for a 20 year old idea, but not the democratic senate and President who signed it.

Got it.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 2:24 PM

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sturg33 wrote: Ahh, so you blame the republicans for a 20 year old idea, but not the democratic senate and President who signed it.

Got it.
"i don't like that he caved"

uh
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Posted: 2/1/2013 2:25 PM

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crump7 wrote:
sturg33 wrote: Ahh, so you blame the republicans for a 20 year old idea, but not the democratic senate and President who signed it.

Got it.
"i don't like that he caved"

uh

"... but maybe that is the first step..."

uh
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Posted: 2/1/2013 2:31 PM

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yeah, maybe doing a bad plan is the first step 

i am not sure how that changes me being upset that he caved
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Posted: 2/1/2013 2:55 PM

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I guess I'm just confused as to why you keep referring to it as a "republican plan", when it was the democrats who made it a law.

Just because the republicans came up with 20 years ago, didn't mean they were for it today. And as memory serves, they were strongly against it. Yet you think it is a bad plan. It seems all of your blame for the bad plan should go to the folks who fought to make it a law, rather than those who fought to stop it. Do you agree?
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:14 PM

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They were strongly against it as soon as a democrat who is a black man that the dumb people that voted them in think he is a Muslim that isn't born in America
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:22 PM

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crump7 wrote: They were strongly against it as soon as a democrat who is a black man that the dumb people that voted them in think he is a Muslim that isn't born in America
Sorry, in your beligeran rant you completely avoided my question... It seems your anger/blame is misplaced. Why blame the 20 year old idea on republicans who had nothing to do with it, rather than the dems and president who fought to make it law?
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:25 PM

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crump7 wrote: They were strongly against it as soon as a democrat who is a black man that the dumb people that voted them in think he is a Muslim that isn't born in America
Sorry, in your beligeran rant you completely avoided my question... It seems your anger/blame is misplaced. Why blame the 20 year old idea on republicans who had nothing to do with it, rather than the dems and president who fought to make it law?

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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:27 PM

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crump7 wrote: we will be pushing for single payer now hopefully instead of this horrible 1990s watered down republican idea

Looks to me like your blaimng the republicans for this one. But the republicans voted against it.

Cute
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:43 PM

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I hope you have had fun "making your point"
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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:45 PM

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Crump, you're always fun
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