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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:04 PM

How stupid is NY? 


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/new-york- state-gun-laws-first-united-states-newtown-sandy-h ook-shooting_n_2478418.html

Really?  Limiting magazines to 7..........why?

Also, what makes a pistol grip or folding stock more dangerous?

"A coach has more to do with an NFL teams success than a QB" "I'd rather live in upstate Ny than Southern Cal -----ZITOED!

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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:21 PM

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Because giles, why would anyone "need" a magazine any larger, or a pistol grip, or a folding stock? This is how we decide whether or not things should be legal now.

IMO, Cuomo wants the talking point that he was the first governor to "do something" when it comes time to kiss up to the left and win a presidential primary. I could hear it in a commercial now.

Last edited 1/15/2013 2:22 PM by acesfull86

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Posted: 1/15/2013 4:29 PM

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gilesfan wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/new-york- state-gun-laws-first-united-states-newtown-sandy-h ook-shooting_n_2478418.html

Really?  Limiting magazines to 7..........why?

Also, what makes a pistol grip or folding stock more dangerous?
I tried explaining to Zito in another thread why anyone would need more than 7 rounds in a magazine. It went over his head, as it does a lot of liberals heads.

You're not guaranteed to hit someone with all 7 rounds if you had to defend yourself. All the range time in the world can't prepare you for a moving target that's threatening you.

Good example of this is what happened outside my work at the Law Enforcement Center on early Monday morning. At 3 a.m. a guy approached a city cop in a threatening manner and produced a weapon. The city cop and a county deputy ended up shooting and killing the guy, but they fired 24 shots. How many of those hit the guy...a grand total of 3. And these are people that are trained and shoot a lot more than the average citizen.

But yeah, it's a great idea to limit mags to only 7.eek1

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Posted: 1/15/2013 4:49 PM

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Along those lines, the whole point is supposedly to limit mass shootings, but a potential gunman could carry as many mags as he wanted, right? And who's to say he would carry legal magazines?

These laws do nothing, but hurt the people that follow the law.

"A coach has more to do with an NFL teams success than a QB" "I'd rather live in upstate Ny than Southern Cal -----ZITOED!

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Posted: 1/15/2013 5:19 PM

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what i have learned from this "debate" (and i use that in the most liberal of terms) is that the status quo is just fine and that laws are pointless and we should get rid of them
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Posted: 1/15/2013 6:24 PM

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crump7 wrote: what i have learned from this "debate" (and i use that in the most liberal of terms) is that the status quo is just fine and that laws are pointless and we should get rid of them
In the last 20 years:

- violent crime is down
- guns in circulation are way way up
- violent crimes using guns are down
- mass killings have flat-lined or decreased

I'd say if there was one area where our busybody gov't should stand pat, it's gun control.  And I don't know who is saying we should get rid of the laws we already have...if anything we should focus on enforcing them and get tougher on criminals to give them a bigger disincentive to commit violent crimes in the first place.

I'm so sick and tired of the crisis/fear-mongering that has led to piece after piece of **** legislation/gov't action lately.  Can we not do that for once?  Patriot Act, TARP, Iraq, the nonsensical "fiscal cliff" deal that our worthless leaders just passed...it seems like all we do is legislate out of overreaction, fear, and emotion.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 6:34 PM

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Yeah but the lowering of crime rate doesn't stop people from trying to ban abortions.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 6:56 PM

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how is crime in NYC since they changed their gun laws to being real harsh?
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Posted: 1/15/2013 8:39 PM

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crump7 wrote: how is crime in NYC since they changed their gun laws to being real harsh?
How is the crime rate in Chicago with Illinois having some of the strictest gun laws?

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Posted: 1/15/2013 8:52 PM

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Tomahawking4life wrote:
crump7 wrote: how is crime in NYC since they changed their gun laws to being real harsh?
How is the crime rate in Chicago with Illinois having some of the strictest gun laws?
so, you don't want to answer my question
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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:10 PM

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My point was made.

That's good enough.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:21 PM

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NT

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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:22 PM

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Tomahawking4life wrote: My point was made.

That's good enough.
it's time like this when i laugh when yall throw the word hypocrite around. haha
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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:28 PM

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crump7 wrote: how is crime in NYC since they changed their gun laws to being real harsh?
Crime in NYC is down relative to what it has been in previous decades...just like places that have loosened gun laws and have more guns than ever before.  I don't see why NYC should be representative of the country as a whole.  It has had stricter gun laws than most of the rest of the country for 100 years. 

The macro trends are what they are.

There are literally dozens of problems this country should be trying to solve before guns.  Violent crime is going down without the "help" of bureaucrats.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:37 PM

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crump7 wrote:
Tomahawking4life wrote: My point was made.

That's good enough.
it's time like this when i laugh when yall throw the word hypocrite around. haha
lol

ok

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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:08 PM

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still not answering i see
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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:21 AM

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Anyone think that police officers, secret servicemen, and other armed guards should have maximum 7 round magazines?

I mean, we're being told that's all that is needed for defense. If I only need 7 rounds to defend myself, why does Obama's bodyguard need more?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 11:01 AM

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acesfull86 wrote: Anyone think that police officers, secret servicemen, and other armed guards should have maximum 7 round magazines?

I mean, we're being told that's all that is needed for defense. If I only need 7 rounds to defend myself, why does Obama's bodyguard need more?

http://www.yourstrawman.com/Strawman2b.bmp

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Posted: 1/16/2013 11:31 AM

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Can't see on my smartphone what I'm assuming is a zito meme. Looking forward to it when I get home.

Btw, the answer to the question in this thread's subject is very. I'd also accept extremely.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 11:36 AM

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No it was a picture of a straw man, but scout starred out the name of the website apparently in coding so the image didn't show up.
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