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Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran?

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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:43 PM

Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran? 


    Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran?

  1. Poll closed on 07/29/2011
  2. Yes: 242 votes
  3. No: 257 votes
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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:44 PM

RE: Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran? 


Only way I do it, is if they include some other good player. Minor is worth much more than Beltran.
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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:45 PM

RE: Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran? 


Do the mets have those?
ZitotheBrave wrote: Only way I do it, is if they include some other good player. Minor is worth much more than Beltran.

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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:46 PM

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Minor no. Delgado and a B prospect seems fair though.
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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:47 PM

Re: Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran? 


Yes, in a heartbeat.
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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:47 PM

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If you under value Delgado it does. He's a top 50 prospect as well.


1Cocoplz wrote: Minor no. Delgado and a B prospect seems fair though.

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Posted: 7/22/2011 8:51 PM

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Beltran would have to be able to play CF and Braves would have to seriously think he would resign.

Posted: 7/22/2011 9:08 PM

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No way in hell you give up your 1st round draft pick from last year (7th overall pick) to a division rival who would have him under their control for 6 years for 2 months of anybody.  I'm shocked that half are saying yes.  I'm not the biggest Mike Minor fan, but there still is no way I'd do that deal. 

Last edited 7/22/2011 9:12 PM by MDCD4

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Posted: 7/22/2011 9:25 PM

RE: Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran? 


Only if we could send back Nate
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Posted: 7/22/2011 9:36 PM

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I say yes. However, the perfect scenario is a 3 way trade where a team, although highly unlikely, wants McLouth with his salary paid, and are willing to send a prospect to New York along with Minor, and the Braves get back Parnell and Beltran with Beltran's salary paid by NY. That way we don't have to have McLouth on the bench or have to release him.

Please bring Andruw Jones Back in 2012!!

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Posted: 7/22/2011 9:38 PM

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I'm torn but I lean toward yes because of what Beltran could bring to this lineup with the kind of year he's having IF he can play CF at least 75% of the time (or if Heyward can play CF).  I think it would be an easier yes if we weren't dealing with a division rival.  It's a very high price to pay for a rental but there is value also in preventing 2 likely postseason rivals from acquiring him.  I don't think the Phils would pay the price for Pence so keeping Beltran away from them probably means they get a platoon RF like Melky or Francoeur at best.

Posted: 7/22/2011 9:50 PM

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No. Minor should be able to land us Pence and he's cheaper and under control past this season and could probably play a better CF.

Minor for Beltran is a bad trade for us.

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:00 PM

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No sir!
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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:04 PM

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Do the Mets pay for the 6.4mil it cost for 2 months of his services?

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:04 PM

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Would the Braves gain a draft pick if they lost Beltran to f/a?
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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:05 PM

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Minor no. Delgado yes. He is the absolute most I would give up though. No one is ganna offer anything better than Delgado imo...

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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:08 PM

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tamahawkchop10 wrote: Minor no. Delgado yes. He is the absolute most I would give up though. No one is ganna offer anything better than Delgado imo...
Why do so many on this board view Minor as a much better prospect than Delgado?

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:10 PM

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tamahawkchop10 wrote: Minor no. Delgado yes. He is the absolute most I would give up though. No one is ganna offer anything better than Delgado imo...
Why do so many on this board view Minor as a much better prospect than Delgado?

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because at this stage of each of their careers, Minor is more valuable.

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:10 PM

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PurpleBrave wrote: Would the Braves gain a draft pick if they lost Beltran to f/a?

If they offer arbitration or he signs elsewhere prior.

Kelly Johnson?  Utley-like IMO.

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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:12 PM

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tamahawkchop10 wrote: Minor no. Delgado yes. He is the absolute most I would give up though. No one is ganna offer anything better than Delgado imo...
Why do so many on this board view Minor as a much better prospect than Delgado?

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For me its due to the fact that minor has done more at the major league level. Less chance of busting imo...

#VoteFreddie

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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:13 PM

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PurpleBrave wrote: Would the Braves gain a draft pick if they lost Beltran to f/a?

If they offer arbitration or he signs elsewhere prior.

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I don't think so. Pretty sure he has a clause so you can not offer arb.

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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:14 PM

RE: Would you trade Mike Minor for Carlos Beltran? 


No. I am not convinced he can play CF.

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:15 PM

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Knucksie wrote:
PurpleBrave wrote: Would the Braves gain a draft pick if they lost Beltran to f/a?

If they offer arbitration or he signs elsewhere prior.

Can he be offered arbitration?
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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:19 PM

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tamahawkchop10 wrote:

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PurpleBrave wrote: Would the Braves gain a draft pick if they lost Beltran to f/a?

If they offer arbitration or he signs elsewhere prior.

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I don't think so. Pretty sure he has a clause so you can not offer arb.
He does and the clause is unaffected by a trade.

As for Minor vs. Delgado, I think they're both top prospects, but I think Delgado is undervalued merely because of the presence of Minor, Teheran, and Vizcaino.  He's got a mid 90's fastball, plus change, and developing slider and I liked what I saw from him when he was pressed into duty for his MLB debut.  I could easily see him having a better career than Minor.

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:23 PM

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No, unless they give us someone else along with Beltran.

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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:44 PM

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MDCD4 wrote: No way in hell you give up your 1st round draft pick from last year (7th overall pick) to a division rival who would have him under their control for 6 years for 2 months of anybody.  I'm shocked that half are saying yes.  I'm not the biggest Mike Minor fan, but there still is no way I'd do that deal.
i agree.  i guess if the braves move him, maybe it means they don't like him all that much but damn, he's pretty much ready to go at the big league level and people would trade him for two months of beltran who will probably end up getting hurt anyway.  no thanks.

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:51 PM

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MDCD4 wrote: No way in hell you give up your 1st round draft pick from last year (7th overall pick) to a division rival who would have him under their control for 6 years for 2 months of anybody.  I'm shocked that half are saying yes. 
Well said!
Zito on Simmons (2/24/12):  if Simmons can be as good as Alexei that would shock me. If we could get Alexei and Lilli for Beachy and get cash I would do it. Being "arguably the best defensive SS in the minors" means nothing...

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:52 PM

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ATL22 wrote:

As for Minor vs. Delgado, I think they're both top prospects, but I think Delgado is undervalued merely because of the presence of Minor, Teheran, and Vizcaino.  He's got a mid 90's fastball, plus change, and developing slider and I liked what I saw from him when he was pressed into duty for his MLB debut.  I could easily see him having a better career than Minor.
Agreed.
Zito on Simmons (2/24/12):  if Simmons can be as good as Alexei that would shock me. If we could get Alexei and Lilli for Beachy and get cash I would do it. Being "arguably the best defensive SS in the minors" means nothing...

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:59 PM

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I live in Kentucky, near Louisville. The Louisville Bats are the Reds Triple A team. I watched Minor pitch at Louisville on July 1, sat 8 rows behind the plate. He gave up 6 hits and 3 runs in 6 innings, including 2 HR's. Against Louisville on July 21, he gave up 6 runs (3 earned runs) in 6 innings on 10 hits. On July 7, he gave up 4 runs in 4 innings against Charlotte. Small sample size, but he sure hasn't been very impressive in Triple A this month. If I have a chance to trade a guy with those numbers for Beltran, who could help win the World Series, I think I do it.
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Posted: 7/22/2011 11:03 PM

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carddog1 wrote: I live in Kentucky, near Louisville. The Louisville Bats are the Reds Triple A team. I watched Minor pitch at Louisville on July 1, sat 8 rows behind the plate. He gave up 6 hits and 3 runs in 6 innings, including 2 HR's. Against Louisville on July 21, he gave up 6 runs (3 earned runs) in 6 innings on 10 hits. On July 7, he gave up 4 runs in 4 innings against Charlotte. Small sample size, but he sure hasn't been very impressive in Triple A this month. If I have a chance to trade a guy with those numbers for Beltran, who could help win the World Series, I think I do it.
and that's certainly the counter argument.  i'd trade just about anybody if it meant a world series and mike minor still hasn't proven anything at the big league level yet.

i'm also concerned what happens to the team defense if Schafer is sent down and old Beltran takes his spot.  What kind of ground can Beltran cover out there?  A team built on pitching really counts on that defense behind them, especially out in center field.
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