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Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
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Posted: 10/6/2012 12:41 PM
Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
Venting for therapeutic reasons here. Which ending to a season hurts more? Missing the 2011 playoffs after last year's epic collapse (slow death by a thousand cuts) or this year's pitiful showing yesterday (quick gunshot wound to the head with a knife backstab from that terrible call)??
Personally, last year was more embarrassing but this year is worse. Better team, greater chance to win, Chipper leaving and they still screw the ending of the fairy tale. Just terrible! I was just curious how the rest of you felt and compared the two seasons.
Last edited 10/6/2012 4:11 PM by PatioDaddio
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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:07 PM
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You know, last year was unique in that we had never seen them collapse like that before. This year is just like all the other post-season failures/chokes. And yes, yesterday was a choke. This organization just does not know how to show up for big games. In an elimination game they take the field defeated and play like it all the way through. We all knew it yesterday when the errors started. We have seen it many, many times.
So, to answer the question, last year hurt more because it was different than what we have experienced for the better part of 20 years. This year is just a sad continuation of the same post-season chokes we are accustomed to watching. Yes, the umps blew a big call in a big situation, but the Braves had still put themselves in a horrible situation, yet again, in an elimination game.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 1:35 PM
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I'll know in a month. the answer will probably be last year.
right now it's too hard to decide with Chipper's error
and the fan trashathon fresh in my mind
what an ugly game
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Posted: 10/6/2012 2:31 PM
Fans reaction Epic Loss
I backed the fans in being upset in a pivotal one game takes all scenario.
That call would not been made against the Stankees, Mutts, Red Sux and definitely not at their place or there would be chaos and probably fans rushing the field. I believe they would have gotten their protest granted ($).
I know Mike Adams was against their behavior and a lot others was for. We complained about fan apathy, we should no longer complain about that now.
This sting is going to hurt a long time especially when the MLB umpires just like the refs in NFL in the Seattle/Green Bay game said they "Made the right call" even though a litany of officials and sport experts said otherwise.
We got Packer'ed!!!!
To be the man, you have to beat the man and so far I am undefeated.
Last edited 10/6/2012 4:07 PM by PatioDaddio
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:00 PM
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I like what someone else said. While I don't condone their actions I understand it, what we saw last night was 20 years of postseason frustration and Braves fans just snapped.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:07 PM
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I am glad they did it. I wasn't at first, but I am now. It is hard to read and listen to person after person explain how this was the right call. I am not a baseball fan right now. I am not sure I ever will be again.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:11 PM
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Still say what happened last night was dangerous and unnecessary.
From what I've heard, it was a much younger crowd than typical, probably because of the cost and the fact that school is in session. It was very difficult for a family to get down there by start time. And people had to get there early because of the stupid start time (to avoid traffic). Getting there early = more time to drink.
Also, remember the call on Simmons when he was called out for running inside the line. While we at home knew it was the right call, the fans in the stadium did not. That probably led to more frustration.
But...no excuses. Never, ever, ever throw stuff on the field. I mean, I was screaming at the TV and probably scaring my kids and half the neighborhood. I have an awful temper. But you have to be very careful to not put your anger in a position that may hurt others.
Last edited 10/6/2012 3:13 PM by MikeAdams
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:15 PM
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MikeAdams wrote: Still say what happened last night was dangerous and unnecessary.
From what I've heard, it was a much younger crowd than typical, probably because of the cost and the fact that school is in session. It was very difficult for a family to get down there by start time. And people had to get there early because of the stupid start time (to avoid traffic). Getting there early = more time to drink.
Also, remember the call on Simmons when he was called out for running inside the line. While we at home knew it was the right call, the fans in the stadium did not. That probably led to more frustration.
But...no excuses. Never, ever, ever throw stuff on the field. I mean, I was screaming at the TV and probably scaring my kids and half the neighborhood. I have an awful temper. But you have to be very careful to not put your anger in a position that may hurt others. You are completely right, and in a small way completely wrong at the same time.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:23 PM
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Mike always seems to have a way to put things in perspective. I can't imagine him having a bad temper.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:43 PM
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ChapelHillMatt wrote: I like what someone else said. While I don't condone their actions I understand it, what we saw last night was 20 years of postseason frustration and Braves fans just snapped. Yeah, I believe there is something to that. Postseason frustration, the September collapse, Chipper's retirement, the amount of money spent to go to the game, and booze. I stopped voting when I stopped taking drugs. I believe both of those acts are closely related to delusional behavior.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 3:51 PM
Epic Loss
Maybe its just me but does anyone else feel like this loss was just more painful than any before. I'm 21 and old enough to remember being a fan back to 1998...Been a die hard fan since 2000.
I just can't imagine another team having a more painful 10 year run than what we have now gone through. From the 3 straight game 5 losses at Turner Field, to the 18 inning marathon, to no post season only to get back and have Brooks Conrad, the collapse and the infield fly. I love the Braves more than anything and I just can't imagine a more devastating 3 year stretch. I guess we could say the Rangers have had a devastating three years as well, but yesterdays loss hit me harder than any before.
Thought I would start a thread for everyone to share their thoughts and vent their emotions following such a sad ending to a great season. In the meantime the dream lives on....I wonder will I ever experience a Braves world series? and btw...I Hate St. Louis.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:12 PM
RE: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
cards fans have no room to talk
their fans did the same in '98
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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:28 PM
Re: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
This one hurt far worse because this team had a real chance to go to the world series and even win it. We had 2 of the hottest pitchers in the second half in Medlen/Minor and you know your in good shape if Hudson is your third best starter. Also we had the best closer in baseball which is a big thing considering closers cost the Braves a couple world series rings in the 90's.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:56 PM
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I don't know where to go from here. The last 3 endings to our seasons have been heart breakers.
I'm ****** as hell at the umps, but we honestly beat ourselves
As of right now, Chipper will be gone next year, and I'm not looking forward to next year at all. Does the long winter months wear down the heartbreak?
At this moment I'm angry. Angry at baseball, ownership, the Braves, the umps, and MLB's incompetency to get calls right.
I just can't see wanting to come back. I don't want to buy another MLB product until some major changes happen.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:01 PM
RE: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
I mentioned this on another topic but I think the frustrating part is the team not performing well in big playoff games at home. Atlanta fans catch a lot of flack from the media nationally for not coming out. I think some of that has been fair in the past. But in big home playoff games when they've come out, the Braves, for whatever reason, haven't played well. The 3 that come to mind are last night, Game 3 NLDS 2010 (Conrad game), and Game 5 NLDS 2004.
As far as if last night hurt more then last year's collapse, I don't really know. Nothing compares to the 1996 World Series collapse in my opinion. I didn't like the "Winner take all, wild card game" going into last night and I obviously don't like it now. I will say this, I felt like if we won last night we could do some damage in the next round and I hate that I have to spend another offseason of "If only..."
Last edited 10/6/2012 6:02 PM by ProbationDeac
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:05 PM
RE: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
What really hurts about last night is that Chipper blew the game and won't have a chance to redeem himself.
If he turns that DP, i think Braves win.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:09 PM
RE: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
laditori wrote: What really hurts about last night is that Chipper blew the game and won't have a chance to redeem himself.
If he turns that DP, i think Braves win. Chipper doesn't have to redeem himself, he's done plenty. Yes he made a big error, it hurts, and I think we probably win if he makes the play too. But largely when I think of his career, last night we'll be long forgotten. Not attacking you laditori, I am sure Chipper would love to redeem himself too.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:42 PM
RE: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
The 7 games played in a row by chipper clearly drained the last ounces in him
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:51 PM
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bdawg2309 wrote: The 7 games played in a row by chipper clearly drained the last ounces in him yup...remember the plays he made from his knees in the last home game? i don't think his knees would have allowed him to spring up and throw. I have no doubt that Chipper gave everything he had during the last couple weeks.
Last edited 10/6/2012 6:53 PM by laditori
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Posted: 10/6/2012 7:05 PM
Re: Fans Reaction Epic Loss Which hurts more?
If the rule is meant to protect the runners, then it should be a pretty easy fix. If an infield fly is called, but the ball is missed/dropped/whatever, everyone advances one base. There should be no instance where such a rule protects the fielder from making an error. That is just crazy.
Last edited 10/6/2012 7:09 PM by Dalyn
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