Posted: 8/14/2014 1:10 PM
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Last edited 8/14/2014 1:42 PM by BamaMick
Posted: 8/14/2014 1:54 PM
there's no accountability for the poor ABs.about 6 weeks ago discussing with a friend of mine, this team just flat out quit taking walks.remember how bad Dan Uggla was was his 2nd year? He still walked 94 times... still scored almost 90 runs.it's one of the reason I included the BBs per PA in the stats, this team swings at everything... with no power...that's not stuck in the mud, that's no discipline... this team has no discipline at the platethe two worst offenders now that Uggla is gone?
B.J. Upton and Chris Johnson. 21 Million Dollars on next year's payroll, and they'll combine for 300 strikeouts and 20 home runs... Upton at least walks every so often... Johnson's K/BB ratio is close to 10-1... that's God Awful.
BamaMick wrote: It just seems like we are stuck in the mud offensively.
Posted: 8/14/2014 3:37 PM
Posted: 8/14/2014 3:47 PM
the Braves Scouting and development is the only reason they are any good at all.If you take the starting 8 and including Uggla to make it 9... you have to include him, because you're still paying him...Frank Wren Imports:
Imports: Upton, Upton, Uggla, JohnsonHomegrown: Gattis, Simmons, Freeman, Heyward, La StellaImports: $45.5 Million / -.6 WARHomegrown: $11.7 Million / 12.3 WARyou can't win as a mid market team when half your payroll is costing you games.-----Braves already ate one contract in Uggla, in order to get better, they'll need to eat at least one more in Upton and hope to find anyone willing to take Chris Johnson.unfortunately, those 3 guys (Uggla) make up almost 1/3 of the payroll.
PawPawMaxwell wrote: So if the players we have are so bad and we cant win with the players we have, what does Wren have to do?
Posted: 8/14/2014 4:37 PM
Last edited 8/14/2014 4:46 PM by PawPawMaxwell
Posted: 8/14/2014 4:51 PM
PawPawMaxwell wrote: What I read you are saying is that we have to get rid of the bad players and we have to shed some money to get better players.BJ Upton may be tradeable but at a cost of eating lots of money or taking on someone elses BJ.Personally I dont think Johnson will be that difficult to move. May have to sweeten the deal with a prospect. What kind of returns would you like to see?
Posted: 8/14/2014 5:00 PM
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Posted: 8/15/2014 6:47 PM
I don't think the braves would want ARod, even if it meant swapping him for Upton. I don't think Arod has anything left, and he'd be just as divisive and just as expensive.
We've seen a willingness to bench Upton, that's a start, and Santana will come off the books next year freeing up 14 million, though a lot of those new contracts start kicking in next season.
I don't really have any idea what will happen, I still like the idea of Gattis in left, Justin in right and Heyward in center with Bethancourt catching.
That's an internal option, and Bonafacio isn't going to be any worse than BJ if we go that direction in center.
But all of it hinges on the willingness to eat 45 million of BJs contract, whether it's through a release like Uggla, or sitting on the bench like Uggla before he was released.But I'd certainly be willing to trade a bad contract for a bad contract if there was any hope of getting production for that money, I just don't think there is with ARod.
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