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Tulowitski

Posted: 7/7/2014 9:02 AM

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Seems that Tulo has had enough in Colo.   If he is truly on the market, do we have enough to get him without destroying our current rotation?  Do we really have enough prospects to get him?

What would you be willing to give for him?

Think 2017!!!!!!
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Posted: 7/7/2014 11:09 AM

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The first team to pop into my head was the Yankees. ARod is coming back next year. They need a 3rd baseman this year. Jester is gone after this year. I could see Yankees trading for him and sticking him at 3rd for the rest of the year and to SS next year.

Rockies would want Simmons and Heyward at the least in return. That's my guess and maybe even Bethancourt. I'm not familiar with their organization but that's what I would want. Best players for best player.
Professional Baseball People will tell you "Offense wins games, Pitching and Defense wins Championships."

Last edited 7/7/2014 11:10 AM by WilliamJames

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Posted: 7/7/2014 1:02 PM

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Assumption on my part:  Rockies always want pitching.  Yankees dont have any.  In fact the Yanks dont even have that much in the way of ML ready prospects.

If all it would take is Simmons and Heyward I think I would pull the trigger.  I believe in Peraza and Reyes.  Corner OFers are not that hard to find.  Does anyone have an idea as to what Hyyward is pointing too?

Tulo would provide a missing ingredient IMO that is crucial to the Braves:  Leadership!!!!!
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Posted: 7/7/2014 1:24 PM

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Tulo contract is ugly-player is awesome

2014-2020 and a 2021 option


$16,000,000
$20,000,000
$20,000,000
$20,000,000
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$14,000,000
Professional Baseball People will tell you "Offense wins games, Pitching and Defense wins Championships."

Last edited 7/9/2014 12:25 AM by WilliamJames

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Posted: 7/7/2014 2:35 PM

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Looks bad today but going forward it may be pretty pedestrian.   Tulo is only 29 in case you forgot. 

I guess the big thing in my mind is that  the Braves are not a WS team as yet.  Playoffs maybe (probably) but in truth the playoffs are nothing but money makers for the owners unless your team gets to the WS.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:50 PM

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Why would the rockies trade him? I mean they will just let him play out his deal (its not like they are a "low" payroll team) and then be done. They might move him later in the deal but I doubt they do it with that many years left.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 8:09 AM

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Why?  They tried hanging on to franchise players before with nothing to show for the effort (Helton), owners are tired of not contending.  Fans are tired of not contending.  Tulo is possibly the biggest trade chip in baseball since Trout is so affordable and Cabrera is pretty much 1 dimensionable. 

I dont know if Braves have enough to play should Tulo come on the market but they will look, just like the other 28 teams out there.

BTW Skid, This thread is based on printed material, not fantasy on my part.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 9:17 AM

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Their is also printed material stating that in order for the braves to trade Dan Uggla they have to trade Shea Simmons.

I just dont see then trading him and I really don't see the braves wanting him.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 9:51 AM

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That printed material IRRC you refer to was up on the other board.

The material I point to was first published in the Denver papers.  Unlike the AJC guys, who seem to lack access to the FO, some of the Denver guys do get scoops.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 11:41 AM

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He would have to play 3B, no way would I trade Simmons. He's at SS for years and years to come. I don't think we have what it would take to get him.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:25 PM

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I think the item skid was referring to was Shae Simmons in order to move Uggla.

However, would you really not move A Simmons in order to put Tulo in your lineup for the next 6 years?  Assuming Tulo does not digress from SS.

WOW!!!!!

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Posted: 7/9/2014 12:25 AM

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Rockies Owner Monfort: No Plans To Deal Tulowitzki
By Jeff Todd [July 8, 2014 at 11:14pm CDT]
Rockies owner **** Monfort says that the club has no desire to sell off star shortstop Troy Tulowitzki, in an interesting interview with Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post. The 29-year-old has been one of the most productive players in the game this year for a scuffling Colorado ballclub, leading to speculation that he could be dangled.

“I have read some stuff,” said Monfort, “but I haven’t heard anything about him wanting to leave or us wanting to get rid of him. I don’t have any plans of doing any of that.” When asked what he would do if Tulowitzki were to request a trade, Monfort said he would wait until such a situation arose.

Of course, many have suggested that now may be the time to deal the game’s premier shortstop, who has been healthy and productive all year. Under his late-2010 extension, Tulowitzki is guaranteed $20MM per year over 2015-19, $14MM for the 2020 campaign, and $4MM for a buyout of a $15MM club option in 2021. While hardly cheap, that contract pales in comparison to what Tulowitzki would likely garner on the open market.

Likewise, Monfort indicated that he was not inclined to move fellow headliner Carlos Gonzalez. “Same answer,” he said. “I haven’t talked to CarGo. All I know is that they love it here. Most offensive players do. I assume they are happy here, but none of us is happy with losing.”

As for the team’s broader issues, Monfort expressed confusion at the club’s struggles. He declined to pin it all on injuries, explaining that “we haven’t played as good as what the talent is.” Monfort expressed continued support for the club’s two head baseball decision-makers, Dan O’Dowd and Bill Geivett. “I have stuck behind both of them,” he said. “I think they are really good baseball people. I think, if you are looking to make a change, there has got to be a better option.” Likewise, Monfort said that manager Walt Weiss is a “winner” who had “grown into the role.”
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