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$40M over 4 years.  It was reported he wanted around $12M/year, but he agreed to $10/year with the D'Backs.  Strange.  He is well worth that money.

Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

They may be giving him $3M or so more than he'd have gotten in arby this year in exchange for a little less the next 3 years.  But I'm a little surprised at that figure.  Gotta think the Braves would've been willing to go that high.

Well, he would have made $7 million this season, so its an extension of $11 million per season. Not to say that I wouldn't have been in favor of the Braves paying Prado that contract, but it appears the Braves may have decided to try to resign McCann over Prado.

dansnotcool wrote: Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

and also lose our top prospects and possibly mac

jackspade wrote: Well, he would have made $7 million this season, so its an extension of $11 million per season. Not to say that I wouldn't have been in favor of the Braves paying Prado that contract, but it appears the Braves may have decided to try to resign McCann over Prado.

Womp if that's the case.
McCann already isn't aging well.

nopatientia wrote:

dansnotcool wrote: Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

and also lose our top prospects and possibly mac

Well who would we have possibly given up instead of Prado? Chances are I'd personally be ok with doing that if it means we keep Prado.

Also I choose Prado over Mac 1000 out of 1000 times. That's not even close.

I don't believe Mac is going to be here either way. I think Wren made the best trade possible. Have to hope we have some guys step up like Juan/Johnson/Gattis/bethancourt.

dansnotcool wrote: Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

Nope, unless you wanted to include Simmons in the deal.

FW said in the Shanks interview that the deal had to have Prado in it once Simmons was off the table.

I probably would of gave him 4/40 but we probably don't have JUp, soooooooooooo.........

I try to be a fan and supporter of the braves, but the ownership makes it almost unbearable. Prado should have been resigned for that contract. They won't sign McCann, and that I prob agree with....but Prado for 4/40 was doable.

They will now tell us it's to sign Heyward, FF and medlen....I don't however trust liberty whatsoever

Still happy wit the deal but you know how these things go. You never know for a few years. I like having a 24 year old potential superstar. I'll take my chances. Under the radar is Chris Johnson.

I'm a huge Prado fan.  Does everything the right way.  So what I'm about to type may show that I was raised on 1980s baseball (your #2 gives himself up to get the leadoff guy to 3b with one out after the leadoff hitter steals second).  Spending more than 1/10th of total payroll on Prado was not feasible for this club.  He is not a 3/4/5 hitter.  If you are a team with limited payroll, you better not be handing out long term $10 million + contracts to anyone that doesn't fit a 3/4/5 role.  Spending $10 million a year on an ideal two hole hitter that doesn't play a premium defensive position is a mistake.  Maybe Arizona views him in their 3 hole.  He could be very good there, but he wasn't going to be the 3 in Atlanta where Heyward, Upton and Freeman could all lay better claim to it.

I tend to think that McCann's days in Atlanta are numbered.  There isn't enough money in the budget to sign McCann long term and give the young guys the raises they need... unless Uggla is moved (if he rebounds this year, it could happen, but I think it is unlikely).  The Braves have the luxury of putting Gattis in AAA and Bethancourt in AA and giving McCann a qualifying offer at the end of this year.  If he elects to come back, fine.  If not, one of those kids will need to step up.

thethe wrote: I don't believe Mac is going to be here either way. I think Wren made the best trade possible. Have to hope we have some guys step up like Juan/Johnson/Gattis/bethancourt.

I have zero faith Juan or Johnson will be able to replicate what Prado has done for us. Bethancourt has a .00001% chance of ever becoming even an OK hitter. Gattis I'm a little more optimistic on but he's still a 26 yr old prospect.

Heyward4MVP wrote:

dansnotcool wrote: Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

Nope, unless you wanted to include Simmons in the deal.

FW said in the Shanks interview that the deal had to have Prado in it once Simmons was off the table.

I probably would of gave him 4/40 but we probably don't have JUp, soooooooooooo.........

If that's the case, then fine. We need Simmons over Prado.

Well put

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--- OcalaBrave wrote:

I'm a huge Prado fan.  Does everything the right way.  So what I'm about to type may show that I was raised on 1980s baseball (your #2 gives himself up to get the leadoff guy to 3b with one out after the leadoff hitter steals second).  Spending more than 1/10th of total payroll on Prado was not feasible for this club.  He is not a 3/4/5 hitter.  If you are a team with limited payroll, you better not be handing out long term $10 million + contracts to anyone that doesn't fit a 3/4/5 role.  Spending $10 million a year on an ideal two hole hitter that doesn't play a premium defensive position is a mistake.  Maybe Arizona views him in their 3 hole.  He could be very good there, but he wasn't going to be the 3 in Atlanta where Heyward, Upton and Freeman could all lay better claim to it.

I tend to think that McCann's days in Atlanta are numbered.  There isn't enough money in the budget to sign McCann long term and give the young guys the raises they need... unless Uggla is moved (if he rebounds this year, it could happen, but I think it is unlikely).  The Braves have the luxury of putting Gattis in AAA and Bethancourt in AA and giving McCann a qualifying offer at the end of this year.  If he elects to come back, fine.  If not, one of those kids will need to step up.

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dansnotcool wrote:

nopatientia wrote:

dansnotcool wrote: Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

and also lose our top prospects and possibly mac

Well who would we have possibly given up instead of Prado? Chances are I'd personally be ok with doing that if it means we keep Prado.

Also I choose Prado over Mac 1000 out of 1000 times. That's not even close.

julio, graham, and gattis more than likely.

Happy for prado but we didnt trade him for casey kotchman. We got justin upton.

OcalaBrave wrote:

I tend to think that McCann's days in Atlanta are numbered.  There isn't enough money in the budget to sign McCann long term and give the young guys the raises they need... unless Uggla is moved (if he rebounds this year, it could happen, but I think it is unlikely).  The Braves have the luxury of putting Gattis in AAA and Bethancourt in AA and giving McCann a qualifying offer at the end of this year.  If he elects to come back, fine.  If not, one of those kids will need to step up.

I think it depends how much he's wanting.

If he has a huge year, and wants Yadi money or more, he's gone. If he takes less, then he may be back.

Probably depends how Bethancourt develops this year though, and if Gattis can stick at C as well with our OF set for the next 3 years at least.

dansnotcool wrote: Couldn't we have afforded to pay him that and get/keep JUp?

Maybe, but it would've been a different pool of prospects for Towers to choose.