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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:14 AM
How good is our staff
Maybe I'm a homer, but I think the Braves have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball. Most people I talk to and places I read online don't give them much respect though. Am I off base?
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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:25 AM
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I also think its going to be one of the best but outside of an aging Hudson nobody has a long track record so there aren't any guarantees. I think we will be fine though with Medlen having another dominant year.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:28 AM
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I don't think its as good as some on this board thinks it is.
Its good and with us having a top 3 bullpen really helps the staff over all I just worry about the rotation. I just know your going to need depth during the season and right now I really am concerned about that. I also am expecting both minor and medlen to regress. The question is how much. If it's alot the rotation is in trouble.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:32 AM
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I think if we had Beachy it would be up there, but I think there are a few too many question marks with this staff.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:03 AM
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The question that we don't know the answer to is who will be the first call up if there is an injury?
Is it gilmartin? Will they give Graham a chance to see what he's got? Wren seems to like Rodriguez. I don't know who it will be and that's unsettling.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:29 AM
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thethe it just depends on how their year goes in AAA im sure.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:36 AM
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Buster Onley had the Braves staff eighth in the majors. Five best in the NL
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:05 AM
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tapate50 wrote: thethe it just depends on how their year goes in AAA im sure. Definitely, but usually the Braves have 2 guys that are ready for the majors pitching in AAA because there isn't space. I'm not sure that we have that luxury this year until Beachy comes back. _______________________________________________________________________________
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:08 AM
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Hudson - If hes not an ace which many have said on here, hes a legit #2 starter. I always have confidence he can go up against the best pitchers in the league and beat them.
Medlen - mini Maddux. Might not pitch as well as he did at the end of last season, but another guy that some might not call an ace, but hes definetely a guy that will win a lot of games for us.
Minor - 2nd half last season proved me wrong. He started to learn how to pitch instead of just throw and hope they dont hit it. The talent is there for him to be a top of rotation pitcher, and this year he probably makes that leap
Maholm - Not spectacular, but not bad at all either. Just a solid guy who will eat up innings.
Teheran - TBD. See Minor last year for best guess.
point is - We dont have a bonafide ace, but our rotation as a whole, will be very good. We dont have Strasburg and Gio, but Huddy and Medlen proved last season they can go head to head against those guys. I would say right now, without Beachy, our rotation is right where Buster Olney had us. If Beachy was healthy, it would be higher. Take into account as well, that we still have 9-10 million to use and I still feel like we will make a deadline deal for an ace type like David Price. Will be expensive but you give this team a bonafide ace and I dont see how anyone can say we arent best team in the NL.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:17 AM
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Rotation is my biggest concern. I don't have a ton of faith in Hudson keeping it up at his age and frame.
Minor and Medlen went from middle to back end starters to supposed front end starters based on a half a year.....question mark if that is sustainable. If so, the rotation will look a lot better.
Malholm is fine as a back end starter.
5 spot, I have no idea what to expect out of Teheran.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:20 AM
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gilesfan wrote: Rotation is my biggest concern. I don't have a ton of faith in Hudson keeping it up at his age and frame.
Minor and Medlen went from middle to back end starters to supposed front end starters based on a half a year.....question mark if that is sustainable. If so, the rotation will look a lot better.
Malholm is fine as a back end starter.
5 spot, I have no idea what to expect out of Teheran. Agreed. It's a concern to me right now as well. There are a lot of question marks.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:37 AM
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There are a lot of questions marks but the best thing for a starting rotation is a good offense, great defense, and dominant pen. Braves have all three. The starting pitchers can go up there not worrying about putting up zero's every inning. That helps a lot.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:51 AM
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With our offense, our staff doesn't have to pitch lights out every game. That has to be a huge confidence builder knowing that the offense can put up big numbers at any moment.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:32 PM
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same. i see a team with 4 #3/4 starters...which is fine in the reg season, but the playoffs and esp the one gamer have me worried. if our 3b pairing holds their own, maybe we look to add a starter gilesfan wrote: Rotation is my biggest concern. I don't have a ton of faith in Hudson keeping it up at his age and frame.
Minor and Medlen went from middle to back end starters to supposed front end starters based on a half a year.....question mark if that is sustainable. If so, the rotation will look a lot better.
Malholm is fine as a back end starter.
5 spot, I have no idea what to expect out of Teheran. Pancho was a bandit boys
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:33 PM
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Staff...not just the starters
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Hudson - If hes not an ace which many have said on here, hes a legit #2 starter. I always have confidence he can go up against the best pitchers in the league and beat them.
Medlen - mini Maddux. Might not pitch as well as he did at the end of last season, but another guy that some might not call an ace, but hes definetely a guy that will win a lot of games for us.
Minor - 2nd half last season proved me wrong. He started to learn how to pitch instead of just throw and hope they dont hit it. The talent is there for him to be a top of rotation pitcher, and this year he probably makes that leap
Maholm - Not spectacular, but not bad at all either. Just a solid guy who will eat up innings.
Teheran - TBD. See Minor last year for best guess.
point is - We dont have a bonafide ace, but our rotation as a whole, will be very good. We dont have Strasburg and Gio, but Huddy and Medlen proved last season they can go head to head against those guys. I would say right now, without Beachy, our rotation is right where Buster Olney had us. If Beachy was healthy, it would be higher. Take into account as well, that we still have 9-10 million to use and I still feel like we will make a deadline deal for an ace type like David Price. Will be expensive but you give this team a bonafide ace and I dont see how anyone can say we arent best team in the NL.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:38 PM
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I'm a little surprised that as much as Wren and Fredi always emphasize that the Braves are a pitching first team, they are content to go with as much youth/inexperience in the rotation as they have.
Medlen has never made more than 14 starts in a single big league season nor pitched more than 138 innings in a season.
Minor has one full season under his belt and one half a season of consistent success.
Teheran has 4 big league starts to his credit and nobody knows if he's ready or not.
I think Huddy will still be a dependable 1 or 2 and Maholm will be an above average 4th starter. Everyone else could be outstanding or could endure long stretches of growing pains. And it's a mistake to expect Beachy to be at his top of the rotation best when he returns. If he is, great, but I won't expect that until 2014.
So I'm a little surprised the Braves weren't interested in bringing in another reliable veteran starter. They must be very confident in Medlen and Minor just like they're confident this new look athletic lineup with no true leadoff hitter and record setting K potential is going to work. I hope they're right on both fronts.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 12:44 PM
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We have question marks, but we have potential as well. Medlen, Beachy, Minor, and Teheran all have the ability to pitch like top of the rotation starters. There's just not enough history yet to know for sure. Wren has some cash to work with to acquire a front line starter mid-season if need be. He first has to see how things are going to shake out.
With Huddy getting up there in age, and Maholm being a free agent, we could make a big trade this season for our next ace if one is available.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 1:06 PM
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I think we might be shopping for an arm at the deadline.
Last year I thought the staff was crazy deep and we ended up adding two veterans.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 1:18 PM
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Agreed. If a hole develops in the rotation, and Gattis tears it up in AAA, I could see us trading him for a strong starting pitcher. Julio3000 wrote: I think we might be shopping for an arm at the deadline.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 1:31 PM
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bravesnumberone wrote: Agreed. If a hole develops in the rotation, and Gattis tears it up in AAA, I could see us trading him for a strong starting pitcher.
Julio3000 wrote: I think we might be shopping for an arm at the deadline.
Last year I thought the staff was crazy deep and we ended up adding two veterans. I too agree and hope Wren is already working on plans to search for a dominant #1. Beachy has that potential - or at least a strong #2. But I think the Braves are that one piece away from a team that can really have staying power in the post-season. |
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