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- OcalaBrave
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:31 AM
Internal Options
It appears that while the Braves still hope to get something done, they are comfortable with their internal options. Thought maybe it was time to take a look at what those options are.
3B
Juan Francisco (25 - L): In 361 MLB ABs, he has hit .258 with a .440 SLG. He has also struck out 121 times. Having a great season in South America.+
Joe Leonard (24 - R): .341 OBP in 426 AA ABs. Supposedly great defense at 3b.
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Jose Constanza (29 - L): In two years with the Braves he has gotten 185 MLB ABs. .332 OBP is not great, but not terrible. Has some speed. .380 OBP in 344 AAA ABs last year. Has had some good streaks in Atlanta, but if he is a regular, we are probably in trouble.
Jordan Schafer (26 - L): A career .221 hitter with a .305 OBP. Strikes out alot for a guy with very little power. Amazing that he homered in his 1st AB considerign he has only 8 HR in 782 MLB ABs and a .301 SLG. I was among the few that thought that Schafer would develop in Houston. I was wrong.
Tyler Pastornicky (22 - R): .243 average with a .287 OBP. .317 OBP in AAA. Had an OBP of .359 in 2011 in AA and AAA. Pastornicky was given a job last year and didn't get it done. I doubt the Braves try that again. He could still develop, but it doesn't look as though he will ever hit enought o be a regular.
Jordan Parraz (28 - R): .364 OBP in 118 AAA ABs last year.
Todd Cunningham (23 -S): .364 OBP in 466 AA ABs last year. Stole 24 bases as well. Had a good season in South America.
Evan Gattis (26 - R): .865 OPS in 182 AA ABs. Having a good season in South America.
Obviously you'd have to hope that Francisco, Cunningham or Gattis is able to claim a job in spring training. If not, you could potentially try to rotate them based upon pitching match-up.
Frankly, in my mind Francisco is the only legitimate internal option out of spring training unless Gattis and/or Cunningham do something REALLY special in the spring. To me it makes more sense to get them some time in AAA.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:40 AM
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Me personally I would bring Johnson back and have him and Constanza in Atlanta with Gattis in AAA. Then have Prado and Francisco of course.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:40 AM
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I hope something gets done
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost. |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 10:25 AM
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Wren said on MLB Network last night he saw Prado as the 3B and ideally wanted a LF option who could be a true leadoff hitter.
Therefore, that tells me they're looking at Schafer (ugh).
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Posted: 12/6/2012 10:38 AM
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I could see Wren making a move with the Yankees for Gardner with Juan as the focal point. They need a third baseman in the worst way.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 10:48 AM
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thethe wrote: I could see Wren making a move with the Yankees for Gardner with Juan as the focal point. They need a third baseman in the worst way. I'd rather not make a deal with the Yankmees under pretty much any circumstances, I would rather not be better ourselves than to take a chance on making them better. I know that's not a nice philosophy of life but there you have it. Plus while I like Gardner, I"m afraid we'd have another Melky type situation on our hands. Plus let's see how Juan plays, maybe we'll get lucky this time around... |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 10:58 AM
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thethe wrote: I could see Wren making a move with the Yankees for Gardner with Juan as the focal point. They need a third baseman in the worst way. Oh my god Fransisco for Gardner would be amazing. We have no good internal options. Unless Schafer gets back on that stuff.......ha. |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:03 AM
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Does anyone remember the raging debate around here about Schafer before he was traded. There were these stats being thrown around about how the team did better with him in the lineup?
It seemed Fredi was quite pro-Schafer. But then he really likes Constanza too. And before that he was fond of Matt Young. He seems to like those types of players more than the Juan Franciscos.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:09 AM
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OklahomaHawk wrote:
thethe wrote: I could see Wren making a move with the Yankees for Gardner with Juan as the focal point. They need a third baseman in the worst way. I'd rather not make a deal with the Yankmees under pretty much any circumstances, I would rather not be better ourselves than to take a chance on making them better. I know that's not a nice philosophy of life but there you have it. Plus while I like Gardner, I"m afraid we'd have another Melky type situation on our hands. Plus let's see how Juan plays, maybe we'll get lucky this time around... Gardner and Melky are completely different players. Not sure how much of Gardy you have seen but you would love him if he were a Brave. Does everything the right way. _______________________________________________________________________________
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:17 AM
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We still have a long time to go before ST, so we will acquire some new blood. Francisco, Gattis, and Cunningham could all prove valuable this season though.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:20 AM
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I'm fine with going into the season with the roster we have (but adding Reed Johnson).
I do however think that Gardner is a realisitic target and would solve a lot of out needs.
Gardy for Juan + Spruil
Gardy
Prado
Heybeast
Upton
Freeman
Uggla
Mac
Simmons
That is a nice lineup and a great great defensive team.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:24 AM
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Those internal "options" are not really options at all. There is no way Wren is going to open the season with a payroll of $85M and garbage in LF. That statement was purely posturing directed towards whatever FAs and/or GMs he is currently dealing with.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:37 AM
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Its not garbage if Prado is in there and Juan is at 3B. Is it ideal? No, but you never know who can emerge. you could bring in an established LF and they could ****.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:39 AM
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thethe wrote: Its not garbage if Prado is in there and Juan is at 3B. Is it ideal? No, but you never know who can emerge. you could bring in an established LF and they could ****. They sure could, and at that point you could still switch to the Great Juan Francisco at 3B and watch him K every other PA. There is simply no reason not to get a real LFer. It is the only hole on the roster and the money is there to fill it. |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:42 AM
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I don't think we have the chips that anyone wants for us to make a trade. I belive that JT and Delgado is almost off limits and here's why. Who is going to fill out the rotation in 2014? We have Huddy and Maholm either being traded/non-tendered or retiring. Wren is looking at rotation of Medlen, Minor, Beachy, JT and Delgado for 2014. At Gwinnett you have young guys that need a year or so of maturing.
Sign Reed Johnson as insurance but I think you will see the White Bear in LF. |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:45 AM
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thethe wrote: Its not garbage if Prado is in there and Juan is at 3B. Is it ideal? No, but you never know who can emerge. you could bring in an established LF and they could ****. They sure could, and at that point you could still switch to the Great Juan Francisco at 3B and watch him K every other PA.
There is simply no reason not to get a real LFer. It is the only hole on the roster and the money is there to fill it. There is no reason to feel the need to spend all of your money right away when addressing a need at the deadlin is just as important. If you have guys that could potentially fill a void at league minimum then you have to take advantage of that. _______________________________________________________________________________
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:56 AM
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thethe wrote:
OklahomaHawk wrote:
thethe wrote: I could see Wren making a move with the Yankees for Gardner with Juan as the focal point. They need a third baseman in the worst way. I'd rather not make a deal with the Yankmees under pretty much any circumstances, I would rather not be better ourselves than to take a chance on making them better. I know that's not a nice philosophy of life but there you have it. Plus while I like Gardner, I"m afraid we'd have another Melky type situation on our hands. Plus let's see how Juan plays, maybe we'll get lucky this time around... Gardner and Melky are completely different players. Not sure how much of Gardy you have seen but you would love him if he were a Brave. Does everything the right way. You may be right and of course every player is an individual but Melky was terrible for us and I don't just mean numbers-wise, I'm talking about a player who didn't want to be in Atlanta and it showed. Anyway I think I'd rather keep Juan and try to find someone more affordable, especially after hearing how unreasonable the D-Bags were about the other Upton kid and even more what Colorado wanted for their "not all that much above average" OF we were supposedly after. |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 12:01 PM
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Thats why I think Gardy would be perfect. Yankees need a 3B in the worst way and the market is there for an OF that they can replace.
Its probably a pipedream because Gardy is a really good player.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 12:07 PM
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thethe wrote: Thats why I think Gardy would be perfect. Yankees need a 3B in the worst way and the market is there for an OF that they can replace.
Its probably a pipedream because Gardy is a really good player. It seems like just about anyone we want is a pipedream, at least via the trade front, are all GMs on crack these days? |
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Posted: 12/6/2012 12:07 PM
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Fran for Gardner is something id do yesterday definetly i dont want Juan starting for us.
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