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Stanton: The Boldest, Best Move Wren Could Make

Posted: 11/19/2012 3:30 PM

Stanton: The Boldest, Best Move Wren Could Make 


I'd gut our farm system for him and throw in a couple major league pitchers.

Would Medlen, Delgado, Gattis, Ahmed and Gilmartin do the trick?

If they want younger guys like Peraza and Cabrera we should say fine.

I'd consider sending Freeman as part of the trade.

The only two untouchables for me would be Simmons and Heyward.

It makes a lot of sense for the Marlins to move him since they ain't contending anytime soon and he has already publicly expressed his disenchantment with the franchise.
 

Last edited 11/19/2012 3:34 PM by nsacpi

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Posted: 11/19/2012 3:35 PM

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Wow Stanton would be a great guy to go get but I have no idea what all it might take. I would not give up 4 big name guys though just 3.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 3:39 PM

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Stanton is perfect, but you're not getting the right cost JMO

Try Freeman, Delgado, and Gattis is more likely

I'd send them Simmons for Stanton, that would be a hard one but then I'd just sign Drew.

Regardless we will have to trade Simmons or Freeman most likely, and then we have to sign someone

To me perfect scenario is the trade I proposed, then we trade for Span (Gilmartin and a higher ceiling arm) then we sign Napoli

Cf - Span
3B - Prado
RF - Heyward
LF - Stanton
C/1B - McCann
C/1B - Napoli
2B - Uggla
SS - Simmons
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Posted: 11/19/2012 3:48 PM

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Stanton would be ideal, but I just don't see the Marlins dealing him without getting a king's ransom in return. I wouldn't be surprised if the Marlins asked for Heyward + in return
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Posted: 11/19/2012 3:53 PM

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Think back to the loot we paid for Teixeira. If we had done that for Stanton (with one pre arb year and three arb years left) it would have been worth it.

We have the pieces to make this happen. One of Minor or Medlen. One of Delgado and Teheran. One of Gilmartin or Graham. That's a great menu to start from. Then offer to add some minor leaguers: Bethancourt, Peraza, Ahmed, Gattis. Whatever interests them.

Three major league or near-major league ready pitchers. And our two best minor league prospects. Give them the menu and let them choose. The price is high. But Stanton is so perfect in terms of what we need, I'd be willing to pay a king's ransom.
 
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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:26 PM

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Unfortunately, the most logical trade involving Stanton would be to the Rangers for Olt and Profar.

I don't think the Braves have the level of talent that is young enough required to get Stanton, no matter who Wren is willing to include.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:32 PM

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If the Braves could get Stanton, but had to give up major league pitchers in return it wouldn't be too bad because if they got Stanton they could go pretty hard after Grienke.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:42 PM

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Sign Hamilton and trade Gwinnett for Stanton. I'm down
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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:55 PM

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Just my opinion.... A team with Stanton, along with Heyward, Simmons and Freeman is a great team.  Switching Stanton for any one of those... including Freeman may be marginally better, but that option doesn't really appeal to me.  I also like keeping the players you want to build around.  I would also be reluctant to give up Medlin or Hudson, or Minor.  Hanson, one but not both of Delgado/Teheran, okay, but be careful giving up guys who can be cornerstones for someone else's cornerstone.  Build around what you got.

If you can get him with out giving up one of the other young up and coming stars, go for it, giving up a guy like Freeman, Simmons, Minor or Medlin for a marginal upgrade seems like a mistake to me.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:01 PM

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Were not getting stanton. Come on now.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:06 PM

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Stanton isn't just a "marginal upgrade" my friend
mfree wrote: Just my opinion.... A team with Stanton, along with Heyward, Simmons and Freeman is a great team.  Switching Stanton for any one of those... including Freeman may be marginally better, but that option doesn't really appeal to me.  I also like keeping the players you want to build around.  I would also be reluctant to give up Medlin or Hudson, or Minor.  Hanson, one but not both of Delgado/Teheran, okay, but be careful giving up guys who can be cornerstones for someone else's cornerstone.  Build around what you got.

If you can get him with out giving up one of the other young up and coming stars, go for it, giving up a guy like Freeman, Simmons, Minor or Medlin for a marginal upgrade seems like a mistake to me.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:09 PM

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mfree wrote: Just my opinion.... A team with Stanton, along with Heyward, Simmons and Freeman is a great team.  Switching Stanton for any one of those... including Freeman may be marginally better, but that option doesn't really appeal to me.  I also like keeping the players you want to build around.  I would also be reluctant to give up Medlin or Hudson, or Minor.  Hanson, one but not both of Delgado/Teheran, okay, but be careful giving up guys who can be cornerstones for someone else's cornerstone.  Build around what you got.

If you can get him with out giving up one of the other young up and coming stars, go for it, giving up a guy like Freeman, Simmons, Minor or Medlin for a marginal upgrade seems like a mistake to me.
Stanton may only be marginally better than Heyward, but he's much better than Simmons or Freeman. Simmons's redeeming quality is position scarcity.

If you're  not willing to give up top talent, you have no prayer gettign top talent.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:09 PM

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Agree with Zito. You have to give to get. Wren can go so many different ways this offseason it's scary. He could go all in and trade for Stanton or Myers (or Moustakas) and still have money to get Hamilton or Greinke. Or go after Upton and somebody else. Either way Wren should have no excuse at all for failure this offseason.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:25 PM

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hudson2 wrote: Agree with Zito. You have to give to get. Wren can go so many different ways this offseason it's scary. He could go all in and trade for Stanton or Myers (or Moustakas) and still have money to get Hamilton or Greinke. Or go after Upton and somebody else. Either way Wren should have no excuse at all for failure this offseason.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:47 PM

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skidlee21 wrote:
hudson2 wrote: Agree with Zito. You have to give to get. Wren can go so many different ways this offseason it's scary. He could go all in and trade for Stanton or Myers (or Moustakas) and still have money to get Hamilton or Greinke. Or go after Upton and somebody else. Either way Wren should have no excuse at all for failure this offseason.
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How is failure defined here.  I would say it will take a couple years at least to see how the team does and how the off-season acquisitions turn out and also the alternatives that might reasonably have been signed.  Some people will be happy to jump the gun and proclaim right away that the off-season has been a success or failure.  But that is just opinion.  The proof is always in the pudding.
 
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:52 PM

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hudson2 wrote: Wren should have no excuse at all for failure this offseason.
This is not true, imho.  Wren stated several times that the FA pool was not very good this season.
And none of the young braves arms are near peak value.

I don't think Wren has as much to work with as you are assuming.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:10 PM

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You're crazy. He has the money and resources to sign for or trade for whatever cf he wants and whatever he does he can fill LF with what's left. Teheran may not b at peak value but what if he has another bad year? He will b unmovable. The Braves problem is they never trade anybody at peak value. They goofed on JJ and Sosa a few years back. Teheran should have been traded last offseason but wasn't. They need to trade him this offseason. With money available and the options they have available to trade, Wren should do very well this offseason.

An nsacpi, if we were to trade say Freeman, Delgado, and Gatis for Stanton and sign Napoli, and Upton that would be pretty successful correct?
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:18 PM

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nsacpi wrote:
skidlee21 wrote:
hudson2 wrote: Agree with Zito. You have to give to get. Wren can go so many different ways this offseason it's scary. He could go all in and trade for Stanton or Myers (or Moustakas) and still have money to get Hamilton or Greinke. Or go after Upton and somebody else. Either way Wren should have no excuse at all for failure this offseason.
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How is failure defined here.  I would say it will take a couple years at least to see how the team does and how the off-season acquisitions turn out and also the alternatives that might reasonably have been signed.  Some people will be happy to jump the gun and proclaim right away that the off-season has been a success or failure.  But that is just opinion.  The proof is always in the pudding.
If all Wren does is get 30+ something LFer and CFer thats a big fail IMO. Victorino and Ross for example....... How is that a good offseason? in 3 years the braves will likely be in the exact same place their are now.  In year 1 the KK/Lowe offseason was a failure.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:31 PM

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hudson2 wrote: You're crazy. He has the money and resources to sign for or trade for whatever cf he wants and whatever he does he can fill LF with what's left. Teheran may not b at peak value but what if he has another bad year? He will b unmovable. The Braves problem is they never trade anybody at peak value. They goofed on JJ and Sosa a few years back. Teheran should have been traded last offseason but wasn't. They need to trade him this offseason. With money available and the options they have available to trade, Wren should do very well this offseason.

An nsacpi, if we were to trade say Freeman, Delgado, and Gatis for Stanton and sign Napoli, and Upton that would be pretty successful correct?
I guess you don't believe Wren about the FA pool..?  Is that right?  You think it's good?
Good luck trading for Stanton.  This is pure hot stove league speculation by fans, in reality don't think we have nearly enough chips to get the job done.  It's not gonna happen.

No much more I can say but adios...
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:33 PM

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We need a cf correct?? And what is the fa market full of??? It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
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