Posted: 1/16/2013 3:12 PM
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:52 PM
Here's a link:http://espn.go.com/college-foo...nference-memberPossible new divisions for the 12-member MWC has a Pacific and Mountain Divisions with UNM in the less sexy league that includes Air Force, Boise State, Colorado State, Utah State and Wyoming. The Pacific teams would be Fresno, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego State, San Jose State and UNLV.That also means UTEP won't be going to MWC. Here's one scenario involving Big East/CUSA:http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/
Now, that doesn’t mean that the Big East is a bad choice for everyone. Houston and SMU, who have been rumored to be targets of the MWC, still make a lot more sense in the Big East. At worst, those schools will be in a better version of the Conference USA that they will be leaving, so the MWC doesn’t provide much upside comparatively. As much as some observers seem to want to watch conferences just pack it in and completely die off, the Big East (or whatever it will be called in the future, which is a separate issue) can still survive as an entity with the pieces that it still has left. Tulsa appears to be a Big East expansion target, which would be a solid addition for its Southwestern flank. UMass is also out there as a classic “university presidents might love it and fans will hate it” option – they have a nascent and struggling FBS program yet offer a public flagship university in the Northeast that plays football at that level (which otherwise don’t exist at all outside of the 5 power conferences plus UConn). Several other schools from Conference USA (e.g. Southern Mississippi) and the MAC (e.g. Northern Illinois) might also get a look, but my feeling is that Tulsa and UMass are the frontrunners to get the Big East up to 12 football members (assuming that San Diego State stays in the MWC) as soon as possible. The league would then do everything it can to keep Navy on board as an addition for 2015 and, if Mike Aresco is successful in doing so, would target one more school on top of that to get to 14 schools for that season.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 6:06 PM
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newmexag wrote: I hope you are right about CUSA, but I just don't see it. With UTEP still in CUSA we make some sense geographically, but I seriously doubt UTEP will go for that, and I don't see other schools supporting an NMSU add over a protest from UTEP. I could see Ark State or ULL before us. They would give a tighter footprint, which is becoming more important now to control travel costs.But I would love for us to make it in to CUSA (over the SunBelt).
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gtoaggie wrote: I feel the new WAC for olympic sports is just as good as the Big West. With no invites in the near future by MWC or CUSA, probably the best thing is to stay in the new WAC for olympic sports and try to get football only in the Scum Belt. At least the new WAC will still have the automatic invite to NCAA for basketball.
Posted: 1/17/2013 11:09 AM
CrimsonPhantom wrote: gtoaggie wrote: I feel the new WAC for olympic sports is just as good as the Big West. With no invites in the near future by MWC or CUSA, probably the best thing is to stay in the new WAC for olympic sports and try to get football only in the Scum Belt. At least the new WAC will still have the automatic invite to NCAA for basketball.May have the invite but the schools in the WAC will kill the quality of recruits to NMSU. And don't forget that Idaho leaves in 2014. The WAC will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel again for another member.
Posted: 1/17/2013 12:25 PM
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MidnightPrism wrote: UAB's AD is Dean of the C-USA AD Committee, and UAB is 1 of the 2 original members left. If UAB wants to stay in the East then the Tulsa replacement will not be Western Kentucky.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 1:55 PM
NMSUAggieFan wrote: CrimsonPhantom wrote: gtoaggie wrote: I feel the new WAC for olympic sports is just as good as the Big West. With no invites in the near future by MWC or CUSA, probably the best thing is to stay in the new WAC for olympic sports and try to get football only in the Scum Belt. At least the new WAC will still have the automatic invite to NCAA for basketball.May have the invite but the schools in the WAC will kill the quality of recruits to NMSU. And don't forget that Idaho leaves in 2014. The WAC will have to scrape the bottom of the barrel again for another member. Another big negative with the watered down WAC starting with next year has to do with seeding in the NCAA basketball tournament. NMSU or whoever wins the WAC is going to get a very low seed, which means having to go up against the likes of Duke, Kentucky, North Corolina, teams like that right off the bat in the first round. Hardly a chance to win a round or two.
Another way to look at it though is we get to play a top team in the country right off the bat. Yeah it would be nice to get a win against Montana or Montana St and then face a top 10 team in the second or third round. We got to play a Final Four team in Mich St 3 years ago and Indiana last year. We found out quickly that we could go toe to toe with MSU. So we lost in the last minute. Big deal. Indiana was better no doubt, but we still hung in and had it in single digits under 5 minutes. I guess i don't see the downside in playing the best of the best right off the bat. Either you belong on the court or you don't. Losing by 3 points to a Final Four team on a national stage proved we belonged, regardless of our seed.
Posted: 1/17/2013 2:14 PM
Posted: 1/17/2013 2:35 PM
KrimsonKrazy wrote: Yeah, but with each game comes an additional share. The more shares, the more money. The MWC may get six teams in the NCAA---that's a minimum of six shares and an additional share with every win. Shares go to the conference which splits it amongst its members. See what NMSU is up against?
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