MM changed nothing and guess what?!?!? We got the same results a LOSS!!!

You're wrong...he played everybody and they all stunk.

nmsuaggie55 wrote: MM changed nothing and guess what?!?!? We got the same results a LOSS!!!

Yes, he should have started Aaron Kubinski and Emery Coleman.

rojo13 wrote: You're wrong...he played everybody and they all stunk.

I know everyone played...as most everyone did on Saturday. MM was quoted there would be changes in the line up. No changes were made. Same players started, same rotations, same story. MM needs changes in the line ups. 0-2 in the WAC how unimpressive from the WAC champs coaching. I wont blame the players...you're only as good as your leaders.

He played everybody tonight but with so little playing time in the previous OOC games, Aggie fans will have to suffer through the underclassmens mistakes now as they get up to game speed.

Dixon, DeRouen, Mullings and Watson played pretty well - the rest, not so much. Even with the better effort in the 2nd half, offense often looked lost.

NMSUPistolPete wrote: He played everybody tonight but with so little playing time in the previous OOC games, Aggie fans will have to suffer through the underclassmens mistakes now as they get up to game speed.

Exactly Pistol Pete.

We have been screaming for more minutes from our subs and Menzies was too stubborn to listen. Now he is listening or came to the same realization as we had on his own, just much later. At any rate Pistol is correct, we will have to suffer as they come up to game speed.

We wanted them to come up to game speed in November and December, rather than January and February. But hey, them's the breaks.

Go Aggies.

JT

MM isn't the brightest of coaches. The bench should have worked this all out before WAC play. As jtnmsu said, looks like it wont be until the end of the season that we have some cohesivness.

jtnmsu wrote:

NMSUPistolPete wrote: He played everybody tonight but with so little playing time in the previous OOC games, Aggie fans will have to suffer through the underclassmens mistakes now as they get up to game speed.

Exactly Pistol Pete.

We have been screaming for more minutes from our subs and Menzies was too stubborn to listen. Now he is listening or came to the same realization as we had much later. At any rate Pistol is correct, we will have to suffer as they come up to game speed.

We wanted them to come up to game speed in November and December, rather than January and February. But hey, them's the breaks.

Go Aggies.

JT

nmsuaggie55 wrote: MM isn't the brightest of coaches. The bench should have worked this all out before WAC play. As jtnmsu said, looks like it wont be until the end of the season that we have some cohesivness.

jtnmsu wrote:

NMSUPistolPete wrote: He played everybody tonight but with so little playing time in the previous OOC games, Aggie fans will have to suffer through the underclassmens mistakes now as they get up to game speed.

Exactly Pistol Pete.

We have been screaming for more minutes from our subs and Menzies was too stubborn to listen. Now he is listening or came to the same realization as we had much later. At any rate Pistol is correct, we will have to suffer as they come up to game speed.

We wanted them to come up to game speed in November and December, rather than January and February. But hey, them's the breaks.

Go Aggies.

JT

The end of the season is our only shot 55. Only shot.

We can peak in late February and make a run. The WAC is pretty weak so we can win the Tourney again in Vegas as it should be us and Utah State and LA Tech as the only teams who can win. And I like our chances.

Vegas is a fun time and all Aggie fans should go if you can make it there somehow. You will love the memories if you do.

Go Aggies in 2013.

JT

jtnmsu wrote:

nmsuaggie55 wrote: MM isn't the brightest of coaches. The bench should have worked this all out before WAC play. As jtnmsu said, looks like it wont be until the end of the season that we have some cohesivness.

jtnmsu wrote:

NMSUPistolPete wrote: He played everybody tonight but with so little playing time in the previous OOC games, Aggie fans will have to suffer through the underclassmens mistakes now as they get up to game speed.

Exactly Pistol Pete.

We have been screaming for more minutes from our subs and Menzies was too stubborn to listen. Now he is listening or came to the same realization as we had much later. At any rate Pistol is correct, we will have to suffer as they come up to game speed.

We wanted them to come up to game speed in November and December, rather than January and February. But hey, them's the breaks.

Go Aggies.

JT

The end of the season is our only shot 55. Only shot.

We can peak in late February and make a run. The WAC is pretty weak so we can win the Tourney again in Vegas as it should be us and Utah State and LA Tech as the only teams who can win. And I like our chances.

Vegas is a fun time and all Aggie fans should go if you can make it there somehow. You will love the memories if you do.

Go Aggies in 2013.

JT

I am planning on going!!!

Do you really thing we have a shot at winning? I was so set on a repeat...now I am not sure. MM needs to snap. Hopefully this road trip is the turning point. Lets get it on Thursday!!

We just don't have very good guard play.   Nothing that we don't already know.  Not sure it matters who plays at this point.

Menzies has Jim Coleman from Tularosa coming in next season, I'm not sure if he will be much help. I think Menzies needs to focus on signing another point guard next season; if we have an available scholarship. According to scout, he is recruiting Randy Onwuaser (6' 3" 180) from Inglewood, CA.

NMSUPistolPete wrote: Menzies has Jim Coleman from Tularosa coming in next season, I'm not sure if he will be much help. I think Menzies needs to focus on signing another point guard next season; if we have an available scholarship. According to scout, he is recruiting Randy Onwuaser (6' 3" 180) from Inglewood, CA.

His brother doesn't even play...I would not come here. Or, did they only recruit his brother to get Jim?

nmsuaggie55 wrote:

NMSUPistolPete wrote: Menzies has Jim Coleman from Tularosa coming in next season, I'm not sure if he will be much help. I think Menzies needs to focus on signing another point guard next season; if we have an available scholarship. According to scout, he is recruiting Randy Onwuaser (6' 3" 180) from Inglewood, CA.

His brother doesn't even play...I would not come here. Or, did they only recruit his brother to get Jim?

Yes 55, I believe they hope to land Jim Coleman if they signed his brother. Jim is a player. We shall see.

JT

I think Emery Coleman is a walk-on. But I think the Coleman brothers were a package deal. Emery is just a freshman so he may prove useful in the future but I think Menzies has wanted Jim since his sophomore year. From the video, Jim has Jahmar Young type tendencies but it is hard to tell really how good he is based on his competition.

I think it was Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. Menzies didn't change a damn thing. I feel like we're having the same problem with Coach Menzies as we did with Coach Walker. Keeping the same starting lineup is insanity at its best. Burning redshirts and then not giving them playtime, just nuts.

A similarity I noticed between UT-Arlington, LaTech and UNM is they all start 4 tall guards. Apparently we don't match up well with these lineups. I saw a lot of posts lambasting the whole team but it looks as if Watson had 14 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists with 3 turnovers. Mullings had 21 points, 5 rebs, 2 assists and 3 turnovers. TDR had 10 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist and 1 turnover. I think Watson and Mullings pulled their weight as starters and once again TDR has shown that he should start in front of KCRM.

Dixon and Bhullar had identical minutes with Dixon winding up with the better numbers. I wish Coach Menzies would change the lineup, ANY CHANGE, to get something to work better. Somebody posted in a different thread of starting Dixon and West as a twin tower approach...I think I'm coming around to liking that recommendation.  Dixon, West, Watson, Mullings and TDR.  Give it a shot, why not? Sim can get the same minutes but off the bench after the offense and defense is in its flow. Giving Sy the greenlight for 3's in not helping. Had he not shot two of them he would have been 3/5 from the field.

Analyzing the box score shows that defense was the problem tonight.  LaTech shot 50% from behing the 3 point line. I also think that all of us are under rating a good LaTech team who is 10-3 and over rating our squad. We could wind up a 4 seed and face LaTech as a viable one seed come WAC tournament. I don't see us winning the autobid this year with the current play/lineup. 

But all of my speculation comes w/o watching the game. It would be nice to hear from somebody who actually saw the game.

After the  Arlington game MM said he was going to make changes. And then the next day he said he would not because the LA Tech game was too soon. To me, that is a poor reflection on himself and the coaching staff. All the players should be versed well enough to play with all the other players at any given time. MM is just too stubborn. Well, he can have it his way and maybe a lost chance at a repeat WAC championship. It is the hopes that the bench will come together in time to produce a successful season.

loobh8r wrote: I think it was Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. Menzies didn't change a damn thing. I feel like we're having the same problem with Coach Menzies as we did with Coach Walker. Keeping the same starting lineup is insanity at its best. Burning redshirts and then not giving them playtime, just nuts.

A similarity I noticed between UT-Arlington, LaTech and UNM is they all start 4 tall guards. Apparently we don't match up well with these lineups. I saw a lot of posts lambasting the whole team but it looks as if Watson had 14 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists with 3 turnovers. Mullings had 21 points, 5 rebs, 2 assists and 3 turnovers. TDR had 10 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist and 1 turnover. I think Watson and Mullings pulled their weight as starters and once again TDR has shown that he should start in front of KCRM.

Dixon and Bhullar had identical minutes with Dixon winding up with the better numbers. I wish Coach Menzies would change the lineup, ANY CHANGE, to get something to work better. Somebody posted in a different thread of starting Dixon and West as a twin tower approach...I think I'm coming around to liking that recommendation.  Dixon, West, Watson, Mullings and TDR.  Give it a shot, why not? Sim can get the same minutes but off the bench after the offense and defense is in its flow. Giving Sy the greenlight for 3's in not helping. Had he not shot two of them he would have been 3/5 from the field.

Analyzing the box score shows that defense was the problem tonight.  LaTech shot 50% from behing the 3 point line. I also think that all of us are under rating a good LaTech team who is 10-3 and over rating our squad. We could wind up a 4 seed and face LaTech as a viable one seed come WAC tournament. I don't see us winning the autobid this year with the current play/lineup. 

But all of my speculation comes w/o watching the game. It would be nice to hear from somebody who actually saw the game.

nmsuaggie55 wrote: After the  Arlington game MM said he was going to make changes. And then the next day he said he would not because the LA Tech game was too soon. To me, that is a poor reflection on himself and the coaching staff. All the players should be versed well enough to play with all the other players at any given time. MM is just too stubborn. Well, he can have it his way and maybe a lost chance at a repeat WAC championship. It is the hopes that the bench will come together in time to produce a successful season.

loobh8r wrote: I think it was Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. Menzies didn't change a damn thing. I feel like we're having the same problem with Coach Menzies as we did with Coach Walker. Keeping the same starting lineup is insanity at its best. Burning redshirts and then not giving them playtime, just nuts.

A similarity I noticed between UT-Arlington, LaTech and UNM is they all start 4 tall guards. Apparently we don't match up well with these lineups. I saw a lot of posts lambasting the whole team but it looks as if Watson had 14 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists with 3 turnovers. Mullings had 21 points, 5 rebs, 2 assists and 3 turnovers. TDR had 10 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist and 1 turnover. I think Watson and Mullings pulled their weight as starters and once again TDR has shown that he should start in front of KCRM.

Dixon and Bhullar had identical minutes with Dixon winding up with the better numbers. I wish Coach Menzies would change the lineup, ANY CHANGE, to get something to work better. Somebody posted in a different thread of starting Dixon and West as a twin tower approach...I think I'm coming around to liking that recommendation.  Dixon, West, Watson, Mullings and TDR.  Give it a shot, why not? Sim can get the same minutes but off the bench after the offense and defense is in its flow. Giving Sy the greenlight for 3's in not helping. Had he not shot two of them he would have been 3/5 from the field.

Analyzing the box score shows that defense was the problem tonight.  LaTech shot 50% from behing the 3 point line. I also think that all of us are under rating a good LaTech team who is 10-3 and over rating our squad. We could wind up a 4 seed and face LaTech as a viable one seed come WAC tournament. I don't see us winning the autobid this year with the current play/lineup. 

But all of my speculation comes w/o watching the game. It would be nice to hear from somebody who actually saw the game.

I think Menzies sets up his gameplan based on the skill sets his starters possess. Mulling, Watson and Sy are dribble driver and marginal set shooters. I don't think Menzies can simply put in other players like Aronis, Bouvac and Barry to replace them without overhauling the offense. Unfortunately, our players are not interchangeable. Menzies can make subtle changes on a given night but a complete line up change takes more time to develop than a two day turn around between UTA and La Tech.

To me, this is the big difference between Menzies and a coach like Alford. Alford recruits players to fit a specified system. His players are interchangeable. On the other hand, due to budget constraints and lack of conference prestige, Menzies just recruits the best players he can find regardless of skills set. He then tries to devise an offense around their strengths. Case in point, look at the difference in offensive and defensive styles between Menzies first NCAA tournament team and his second. The first was more offensive minded with a lot of scoring coming from the perimeter; the second was defensive minded with most of the scoring coming from the paint. If this team makes it to the NCAA tournament, they will have to do it in a much different manner than the last two. Right now, Menzies is struggling to find that specific manner and who will play key roles. Our success this season may require us going away from our senior's with their scoring limitations or away from Sim Bhullar with his "conditioning" and game speed limitations.

His first WAC Championship title was all due to Reggie's players. Theus built that team and those were his players. None of that was Menzies.

NMSUPistolPete wrote:

nmsuaggie55 wrote: After the  Arlington game MM said he was going to make changes. And then the next day he said he would not because the LA Tech game was too soon. To me, that is a poor reflection on himself and the coaching staff. All the players should be versed well enough to play with all the other players at any given time. MM is just too stubborn. Well, he can have it his way and maybe a lost chance at a repeat WAC championship. It is the hopes that the bench will come together in time to produce a successful season.

loobh8r wrote: I think it was Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. Menzies didn't change a damn thing. I feel like we're having the same problem with Coach Menzies as we did with Coach Walker. Keeping the same starting lineup is insanity at its best. Burning redshirts and then not giving them playtime, just nuts.

A similarity I noticed between UT-Arlington, LaTech and UNM is they all start 4 tall guards. Apparently we don't match up well with these lineups. I saw a lot of posts lambasting the whole team but it looks as if Watson had 14 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists with 3 turnovers. Mullings had 21 points, 5 rebs, 2 assists and 3 turnovers. TDR had 10 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist and 1 turnover. I think Watson and Mullings pulled their weight as starters and once again TDR has shown that he should start in front of KCRM.

Dixon and Bhullar had identical minutes with Dixon winding up with the better numbers. I wish Coach Menzies would change the lineup, ANY CHANGE, to get something to work better. Somebody posted in a different thread of starting Dixon and West as a twin tower approach...I think I'm coming around to liking that recommendation.  Dixon, West, Watson, Mullings and TDR.  Give it a shot, why not? Sim can get the same minutes but off the bench after the offense and defense is in its flow. Giving Sy the greenlight for 3's in not helping. Had he not shot two of them he would have been 3/5 from the field.

Analyzing the box score shows that defense was the problem tonight.  LaTech shot 50% from behing the 3 point line. I also think that all of us are under rating a good LaTech team who is 10-3 and over rating our squad. We could wind up a 4 seed and face LaTech as a viable one seed come WAC tournament. I don't see us winning the autobid this year with the current play/lineup. 

But all of my speculation comes w/o watching the game. It would be nice to hear from somebody who actually saw the game.

I think Menzies sets up his gameplan based on the skill sets his starters possess. Mulling, Watson and Sy are dribble driver and marginal set shooters. I don't think Menzies can simply put in other players like Aronis, Bouvac and Barry to replace them without overhauling the offense. Unfortunately, our players are not interchangeable. Menzies can make subtle changes on a given night but a complete line up change takes more time to develop than a two day turn around between UTA and La Tech.

To me, this is the big difference between Menzies and a coach like Alford. Alford recruits players to fit a specified system. His players are interchangeable. On the other hand, due to budget constraints and lack of conference prestige, Menzies just recruits the best players he can find regardless of skills set. He then tries to devise an offense around their strengths. Case in point, look at the difference in offensive and defensive styles between Menzies first NCAA tournament team and his second. The first was more offensive minded with a lot of scoring coming from the perimeter; the second was defensive minded with most of the scoring coming from the paint. If this team makes it to the NCAA tournament, they will have to do it in a much different manner than the last two. Right now, Menzies is struggling to find that specific manner and who will play key roles. Our success this season may require us going away from our senior's with their scoring limitations or away from Sim Bhullar with his "conditioning" and game speed limitations.

nmsuaggie55 wrote: His first WAC Championship title was all due to Reggie's players. Theus built that team and those were his players. None of that was Menzies.

NMSUPistolPete wrote:

nmsuaggie55 wrote: After the  Arlington game MM said he was going to make changes. And then the next day he said he would not because the LA Tech game was too soon. To me, that is a poor reflection on himself and the coaching staff. All the players should be versed well enough to play with all the other players at any given time. MM is just too stubborn. Well, he can have it his way and maybe a lost chance at a repeat WAC championship. It is the hopes that the bench will come together in time to produce a successful season.

loobh8r wrote: I think it was Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. Menzies didn't change a damn thing. I feel like we're having the same problem with Coach Menzies as we did with Coach Walker. Keeping the same starting lineup is insanity at its best. Burning redshirts and then not giving them playtime, just nuts.

A similarity I noticed between UT-Arlington, LaTech and UNM is they all start 4 tall guards. Apparently we don't match up well with these lineups. I saw a lot of posts lambasting the whole team but it looks as if Watson had 14 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists with 3 turnovers. Mullings had 21 points, 5 rebs, 2 assists and 3 turnovers. TDR had 10 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist and 1 turnover. I think Watson and Mullings pulled their weight as starters and once again TDR has shown that he should start in front of KCRM.

Dixon and Bhullar had identical minutes with Dixon winding up with the better numbers. I wish Coach Menzies would change the lineup, ANY CHANGE, to get something to work better. Somebody posted in a different thread of starting Dixon and West as a twin tower approach...I think I'm coming around to liking that recommendation.  Dixon, West, Watson, Mullings and TDR.  Give it a shot, why not? Sim can get the same minutes but off the bench after the offense and defense is in its flow. Giving Sy the greenlight for 3's in not helping. Had he not shot two of them he would have been 3/5 from the field.

Analyzing the box score shows that defense was the problem tonight.  LaTech shot 50% from behing the 3 point line. I also think that all of us are under rating a good LaTech team who is 10-3 and over rating our squad. We could wind up a 4 seed and face LaTech as a viable one seed come WAC tournament. I don't see us winning the autobid this year with the current play/lineup. 

But all of my speculation comes w/o watching the game. It would be nice to hear from somebody who actually saw the game.

I think Menzies sets up his gameplan based on the skill sets his starters possess. Mulling, Watson and Sy are dribble driver and marginal set shooters. I don't think Menzies can simply put in other players like Aronis, Bouvac and Barry to replace them without overhauling the offense. Unfortunately, our players are not interchangeable. Menzies can make subtle changes on a given night but a complete line up change takes more time to develop than a two day turn around between UTA and La Tech.

To me, this is the big difference between Menzies and a coach like Alford. Alford recruits players to fit a specified system. His players are interchangeable. On the other hand, due to budget constraints and lack of conference prestige, Menzies just recruits the best players he can find regardless of skills set. He then tries to devise an offense around their strengths. Case in point, look at the difference in offensive and defensive styles between Menzies first NCAA tournament team and his second. The first was more offensive minded with a lot of scoring coming from the perimeter; the second was defensive minded with most of the scoring coming from the paint. If this team makes it to the NCAA tournament, they will have to do it in a much different manner than the last two. Right now, Menzies is struggling to find that specific manner and who will play key roles. Our success this season may require us going away from our senior's with their scoring limitations or away from Sim Bhullar with his "conditioning" and game speed limitations.

Correction, Hamidu Rahman, Troy Gillenwater, Wendell McKines, and Hernst Laroche were ALL Menzies recruits and played a big part in that WAC/NCAA tournament run. Only Jonathan Gibson and Jahmar Young were Theus' recruits. I also feel Gordo Castillo was more Menzies' recruit as well since Theus signed him but was considering not honoring his scholarship and sending him to prep school. Watson, Sy, and West were also on that team as freshmen.