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Will Home Court Help NMSU Get Revenge?

Posted: 12/16/2012 12:53 PM

Will Home Court Help NMSU Get Revenge? 


NMSU, undefeated at home, will face an undefeated and highly ranked team Wednesday in Las Cruces.  Does NMSU have a home court advantage?  Will NMSU fans show up for the game?  Will NMSU's absurd season ticket policies result TV showing the embarrassing empty seats behind the benches? 

NMSU is 0-2 so far against the rivals and that will not help ticket sales.  UNM crushed NMSU in Albuquerque.  The full contingent of NMSU students who normally would turn out for this game will not be there because, for the 2nd year in a row, the game is being held when the semester is over (and again, for some reason, the first game was held in ABQ). 



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Posted: 12/16/2012 1:02 PM

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Aggietude wrote:

NMSU, undefeated at home, will face an undefeated and highly ranked team Wednesday in Las Cruces.  Does NMSU have a home court advantage?  Will NMSU fans show up for the game?  Will NMSU's absurd season ticket policies result TV showing the embarrassing empty seats behind the benches? 

NMSU is 0-2 so far against the rivals and that will not help ticket sales.  UNM crushed NMSU in Albuquerque.  The full contingent of NMSU students who normally would turn out for this game will not be there because, for the 2nd year in a row, the game is being held when the semester is over (and again, for some reason, the first game was held in ABQ). 




Since the Slub-Glob LO-BLOWS dictate the scheduling, they know the only chance the Aggies have of a half way filled up PAC is when school is in session.

I know that a halftime show is on the agenda, but there should have been a load of family pack pricing with Santa being on hand with businesses giving out special discount coupons for the final 5 days of shopping...

Our chance of winning is 2 in 9. I say we will lose by 15 again,,81-66.

Go Aggies,,,,
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Posted: 12/16/2012 1:15 PM

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In year's past the site of the first game alternated every year, but I don't know why UNM again got the upper hand on this.  UNM also got the game on a Saturday, while NMSU home game against them is on a weeknight.

As for the question at hand, Aggies still have home court advantage, it's just not as big as it once was.  Someone said there would be a lot of students in the stands, and there might be, but not 4,000.

The bigger question, perhaps, is will the players show up?  As discussed, several key players had terrible offensive games Saturday night in the Pit.   

We all know what needs to happen.  Mullings is the only Aggie that consistently can finish, and he's going to need much more help from Watson and Sy.  This would be a good game for KCRM to bust out.   Need to get get more penetration.  Need to get tougher inside and pound the boards.

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Posted: 12/16/2012 1:31 PM

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Last season's results kinda show that all the fretting about who shows up where and when the games are played is not vital.  The Aggies, of course, won by 9 at The Pit but lost by 20 at home.

Sure there's a home court advantage, but whoever shows up firing on all cylinders on game night has a bigger advantage.  If NMSU is ready, some empty seats won't kill them (or keep them out of the SBC, CUSA or whatever else people are worried about :) . )
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Posted: 12/16/2012 1:41 PM

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NMSU is capable of beating UNM in the PAC. But the margin for error is much much smaller. All our key players (Mullings, Watson, and Sy) must have good nights... On the other hand, UNM has enough weapons that are player or two or three could stink up the joint and they would still have a fighting chance.

 

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Posted: 12/16/2012 1:43 PM

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dtrain34 wrote: Last season's results kinda show that all the fretting about who shows up where and when the games are played is not vital.  The Aggies, of course, won by 9 at The Pit but lost by 20 at home.

Sure there's a home court advantage, but whoever shows up firing on all cylinders on game night has a bigger advantage.  If NMSU is ready, some empty seats won't kill them (or keep them out of the SBC, CUSA or whatever else people are worried about :) . )
The biggest issue for me is that the majority of NMSU students again have been denied the opportunity to be a part of this special rivalry.  They've always turned out big for this game when school is in session.  The students long have been the reason for NMSU's home court advantage, but their influence continues to be marginalized because of scheduling issues and the efforts to muzzle them.  It's just not the same.

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Posted: 12/16/2012 2:01 PM

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I also think the University (Boston) wants to sell their seats to the general public for more money rather than give away these rivalry game tickets to the students... Although, the students have already paid for their right to attend these games in their tuition. Just my opinion.

 

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Posted: 12/16/2012 6:35 PM

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NMSU needs to listen to us here on this board.

We know what we are talking about, yet they (Macy, Boston, Herby Taylor, and those in charge) refuse to listen to us.

I personally have railed against the seat premium for 4 years plus to no avail. I outlined my position on this in great detail, yet they choose to ignore a native Las Crucen who was one of the first people through the doors of the Pan Am the day it opened.

We have told them that the students rule, and they own the Pan Am. Yet muzzling continues full speed ahead, and they wonder why the place is a library. Well it is because you want a library. You have intentionally created a library. You are proud of the library environment. It is safe and warm and without risk. It is also without a soul. Without life. Without a pulse. Without energy. And you seem very smug and proud of that.

We have told them that plastic bags over seats do not cut it. We have told them that tombstone seats defeat any karma we built up.

Those in charge need to get some old DVD's of the Indiana State game, the UNLV game, the Whitchita State game, and all the classic games the Pan Am was built on.

In case those in charge do not realize it, NMSU Men's Basketball is ALL YOU GOT. It is plain and simple. We do not have football, soccer, tennis or any other Division One Sport. We are a one trick pony. And when that pony is tied up behind the shed and fed counterfeit hay and fake oats we will struggle.

It is time to let the horse loose, feed it some quality student participation, some quality no seat premium season tickets, some quality no muzzling environment, some quality three blind mice skits, and all the stuff those here have outlined many many many many many times, only to fall on deaf / stubborn / politically correct NMSU Administration ears.

We have been plain and simple and consistent on what makes the Pan Am special and what to do about the downspike they have created.

Wake up. We want our Pan Am back. It is all we got.

Don't rob us of that too.

JT

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Posted: 12/16/2012 7:28 PM

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jtnmsu wrote: NMSU needs to listen to us here on this board.

We know what we are talking about, yet they (Macy, Boston, Herby Taylor, and those in charge) refuse to listen to us.

I personally have railed against the seat premium for 4 years plus to no avail. I outlined my position on this in great detail, yet they choose to ignore a native Las Crucen who was one of the first people through the doors of the Pan Am the day it opened.

We have told them that the students rule, and they own the Pan Am. Yet muzzling continues full speed ahead, and they wonder why the place is a library. Well it is because you want a library. You have intentionally created a library. You are proud of the library environment. It is safe and warm and without risk. It is also without a soul. Without life. Without a pulse. Without energy. And you seem very smug and proud of that.

We have told them that plastic bags over seats do not cut it. We have told them that tombstone seats defeat any karma we built up.

Those in charge need to get some old DVD's of the Indiana State game, the UNLV game, the Whitchita State game, and all the classic games the Pan Am was built on.

In case those in charge do not realize it, NMSU Men's Basketball is ALL YOU GOT. It is plain and simple. We do not have football, soccer, tennis or any other Division One Sport. We are a one trick pony. And when that pony is tied up behind the shed and fed counterfeit hay and fake oats we will struggle.

It is time to let the horse loose, feed it some quality student participation, some quality no seat premium season tickets, some quality no muzzling environment, some quality three blind mice skits, and all the stuff those here have outlined many many many many many times, only to fall on deaf / stubborn / politically correct NMSU Administration ears.

We have been plain and simple and consistent on what makes the Pan Am special and what to do about the downspike they have created.

Wake up. We want our Pan Am back. It is all we got.

Don't rob us of that too.

JT
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
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Jdriver wrote:
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
Geez, I don't know why people don't take you serious?crazy
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Posted: 12/16/2012 8:06 PM

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loobh8r wrote:
Jdriver wrote:
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
Geez, I don't know why people don't take you serious?crazy
Ok,,,football is a Joke,,,and name one team in the top 100 basketball we could beat?????

At the UTEP game,,people sitting behind me said,,,I have never seen a 7"5' guy that cannot dunk.... and after watching 4 missed lay ups in a row what was I to say???
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Posted: 12/16/2012 8:09 PM

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loobh8r wrote:
Jdriver wrote:
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
Geez, I don't know why people don't take you serious?crazy
I have forgotten more about BB than yoiu know!!!!! You wnat my seat number????
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Posted: 12/16/2012 8:22 PM

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loobh8r wrote:
Jdriver wrote:
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
Geez, I don't know why people don't take you serious?crazy
So Mr Geez you like winning 1 of 8,,,,,that means the BB team is now down to the level of the FB Team... Good for you,,,,your one awesome fan.....you parobably a chicago cubs fan hanging your hat on that beer and no championship for 100 years is a novelty... Which with the way we are going these days a win over the Blows or the Slimers will soon become a novelty.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 8:32 PM

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Thanks J Driver.

Welcome to our board.

We are glad you are a true Aggie fan and you know what you are talking about. It is always good to hear from local fans who have been through the battles and still support our Aggies.

What is your favorite Aggie sport? Basketball? Football?

What is your favorite Aggie game you have gone to in person? On the road? On tv?

You sound like a good basketball expert. What changes do you think we need to make on Offense? Defense? Other?

Who is our best player this year of the games you have seen in person?

What stories can you share about Dr. Boston? Coach Walker? Coach Menzies? Others?

Let's hear it J Driver. You have lots to offer here. We are anxious to hear it.

Thanks.

JT
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Posted: 12/16/2012 8:48 PM

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jtnmsu wrote: Thanks J Driver.

Welcome to our board.

We are glad you are a true Aggie fan and you know what you are talking about. It is always good to hear from local fans who have been through the battles and still support our Aggies.

What is your favorite Aggie sport? Basketball? Football?

What is your favorite Aggie game you have gone to in person? On the road? On tv?

You sound like a good basketball expert. What changes do you think we need to make on Offense? Defense? Other?

Who is our best player this year of the games you have seen in person?

What stories can you share about Dr. Boston? Coach Walker? Coach Menzies? Others?

Let's hear it J Driver. You have lots to offer here. We are anxious to hear it.

Thanks.

JT
What is your favorite Aggie sport? Basketball? Football? Basketball, Golf

What is your favorite Aggie game you have gone to in person? On the road? On tv? Attend All Aggie Basketball Games unless my son is Playing.
You sound like a good basketball expert. What changes do you think we need to make on Offense? Defense? Other? going to be point blank...Was not happy with the hire of MM. We need more true BB Players and not Soccer Super Athletes that we try to convert to BB Players in 4 short years.
Who is our best player this year of the games you have seen in person? DM by far is the best player we have on this team....

What stories can you share about Dr. Boston? Coach Walker? Coach Menzies? Others?Me and the Doctor do not see Eye to Eye at all...had some serious eye to eyes,,,of which he would have loved to take me out....Not into football Have met coach Walker and it is not his fault he tried to do at NMSU what no one else has been able to do for 50+ years...get rid of football...sorry

Last contact with MM was this summer when I made a hole in one at the Fund Raiser at PH.
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Since the Aggies don't seem to have anyone that can shoot the ball with any accuracy and consistency beyond 5 feet from the basket they will lose to the lobos yet again in the PAC.   I predict a twelve point loss.

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Posted: 12/16/2012 11:16 PM

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Jdriver wrote:
loobh8r wrote:
Jdriver wrote:
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
Geez, I don't know why people don't take you serious?crazy
So Mr Geez you like winning 1 of 8,,,,,that means the BB team is now down to the level of the FB Team... Good for you,,,,your one awesome fan.....you parobably a chicago cubs fan hanging your hat on that beer and no championship for 100 years is a novelty... Which with the way we are going these days a win over the Blows or the Slimers will soon become a novelty.

Haha, you make me laugh. I would have thought you would know this answer since you are so wise but a top 100 team we can beat is Southern Miss who currently sit at #86. You are one of these hens who can't get past Coach Menzies hire, you lose all credibility in my book if you can't look at a situation w/o hate and spite. You are absolutely CLUELESS if you think a Coach, ANY coach and not just Menzies, goes into a game to lose. CLUELESS if you think that losing to the loobs or the miners is okay to Menzies. 1 and 9 no doesn't make me happy but if you actually LOOK at how many times we have played BOTH of these teams w/o our full complement of starters then you may actually UNDERSTAND why the record sits where it does.  But if you are full of hate then you probably aren't. And if you think I blindly agree with Menzies actions all you have to do is read some of my posts after the loob game.  I'm just not of the opinion he is a bad hire like you so all things Menzies isn't going to be negative with me. He only has 27 less wins than Alford over 6 years and I would hedge a bet that the loobs have played 4 easier pattycakes per year than the Aggies have over that timeframe,,,,,,,,,,,,,this year being different.

I kinda doubt you have forgotten more basketball than I know...I think your brain is probably getting pretty bad up there if you're thinking that.
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The way he types (talks) he sounds like something may be wrong with his brain besides "cluelessness"... 
Anyways, Im pretty sure Menzies knows that winning games in March is much more important for your program than winning games against your OOC rivals in Nov-Dec.  I wish I could be in Las Cruces for the game Wednesday, good luck.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 7:52 AM

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loobh8r wrote:
Jdriver wrote:
loobh8r wrote:
Jdriver wrote:
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!  Your TAKE is 100% correct,,,,

I have spoken with the doctor and,,,MM. they both know who I am,,,The DA,,, DR treats me like &^^&******!! At least MM will listen,,even though he may not hear what I have to say. I have had season tickets for the past 26 years and (The doctor @300K per yr) treats me like I am totally stupid,,as he IS "ALL KNOWING""".  Boston is a total flipping "IDIOT"!!! The Best Paid Idiot I know,,,so I guess,,he, it not a totally STUPID Idout since he he is scaamming the State of NM!!! Its the Tax Payer of NM that are Stupid!!! MM,someday might get get it..But do not hold your breath,,,

So,,,,,,In the mean time,,,keep winning 1 out of 8 to the Slimers and LO-BLOWS!!!!

Beore MM got here we actually had a winning recored against the Slimers and were jsut below 50/50 with the ,,,BLOWS....

Sinking Fast with MM  MM  MM  MM
Geez, I don't know why people don't take you serious?crazy
So Mr Geez you like winning 1 of 8,,,,,that means the BB team is now down to the level of the FB Team... Good for you,,,,your one awesome fan.....you parobably a chicago cubs fan hanging your hat on that beer and no championship for 100 years is a novelty... Which with the way we are going these days a win over the Blows or the Slimers will soon become a novelty.

Haha, you make me laugh. I would have thought you would know this answer since you are so wise but a top 100 team we can beat is Southern Miss who currently sit at #86. You are one of these hens who can't get past Coach Menzies hire, you lose all credibility in my book if you can't look at a situation w/o hate and spite. You are absolutely CLUELESS if you think a Coach, ANY coach and not just Menzies, goes into a game to lose. CLUELESS if you think that losing to the loobs or the miners is okay to Menzies. 1 and 9 no doesn't make me happy but if you actually LOOK at how many times we have played BOTH of these teams w/o our full complement of starters then you may actually UNDERSTAND why the record sits where it does.  But if you are full of hate then you probably aren't. And if you think I blindly agree with Menzies actions all you have to do is read some of my posts after the loob game.  I'm just not of the opinion he is a bad hire like you so all things Menzies isn't going to be negative with me. He only has 27 less wins than Alford over 6 years and I would hedge a bet that the loobs have played 4 easier pattycakes per year than the Aggies have over that timeframe,,,,,,,,,,,,,this year being different.

I kinda doubt you have forgotten more basketball than I know...I think your brain is probably getting pretty bad up there if you're thinking that.
Good thing you didn't make that bet!  UNM strength of schedule has been much tougher every year since Alford arrived. 
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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:09 AM

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NMSU will play better in the Pan Am against UNM but, as pointed out, will need more production, especially on offense, at all positions.

What will Menzies do at point guard? UNM's Green easily won that battle.

It's the Bhullar/Dixon show at center and UNM's Kirk dominated in the first contest. Kirk outpositioned the bigger Bhullar and outmuscled the smaller Dixon.

Watson and Sy were non-factors offensively. Will Barry get minutes?

Aronis was a non-factor going 0-2 from beyond the arc.

NMSU desperately needs Daniels. Hopefully he will have the stamina to most of the game.

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