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Posted: 12/13/2012 8:22 AM

Big East basketball-only schools to split from conference 


By LENN ROBBINS

Last Updated:  9:40 AM, December 13, 2012


The presidents of the seven schools that don’t play big time football - DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova - are holding a teleconference with Big East Commissioner Mike Aresco Thursday and expected to issue a statement this afternoon saying that are parting ways.

The teleconference was taking place this morning, and Aresco was hoping to hold the league together. But multiple sources said the seven basketball-centric schools had had enough of the defections that had wreaked havoc on the league in the last couple of years.

What is certain is that programs such as Temple, which is set to join the Big East in basketball next season, Cincinnati, Connecticut and South Florida, are in terrible limbo.

The Big East recently added a group of schools such as Boise State, Central Florida, East Carolina, Houston, San Diego State and SMU to bolster its football roster. Those schools might return to their respective conferences.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports...vTg8twF80US3G6H

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Posted: 12/13/2012 8:45 AM

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Well, the ball is in the court of the Big East football schools...

Connecticut
Cincinnati
South Florida
Temple
Navy (football only)
Memphis
SMU
Houston
Central Florida
Tulane
East Carolina (football only)
Boise State (football only)
San Diego State (football only)

I have to feeling the incoming C-USA schools will follow through on their path to join the Big East. However, I see Boise State and San Diego high tailing it back to the MWC. Which strengthen the MWC to a level near the new Big East. This probably means C-USA is going to get raided by the remaining Big East and possibly by the MWC in the coming weeks.

 

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Posted: 12/13/2012 8:59 AM

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The Big East is a powerful basketball brand.  I believe, as the article alluded to, that the basketball schools (Majority), could possibly vote to dissolve the conference.  This way they can hold on to the name as they form a new basketball conference of elite private institutions.  SDSU and BSU are all but on their way back to the MWC.  Other schools will also head back to their old conferences as well.  If an offer from the Sun Belt is on the table, NMSU needs to jump on it.
NMSUPistolPete wrote: Well, the ball is in the court of the Big East football schools...

Connecticut
Cincinnati
South Florida
Temple
Navy (football only)
Memphis
SMU
Houston
Central Florida
Tulane
East Carolina (football only)
Boise State (football only)
San Diego State (football only)

I have to feeling the incoming C-USA schools will follow through on their path to join the Big East. However, I see Boise State and San Diego high tailing it back to the MWC. Which strengthen the MWC to a level near the new Big East. This probably means C-USA is going to get raided by the remaining Big East and possibly by the MWC in the coming weeks.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 9:05 AM

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The MWC kept positions open for BSU and SDSU to return home . . CUSA did not keep positions open for its departing members to return home.

I have long felt that CUSA might be the next WAC as it is too far-flung geographically and the schools have little to nothing in common.  CUSA is a marriage of convenience much like the Big East and much like the recently decimated football WAC.

Hang on as the wild ride of conference shuffling appears to be starting up again.

NMSUPistolPete wrote: Well, the ball is in the court of the Big East football schools...

Connecticut
Cincinnati
South Florida
Temple
Navy (football only)
Memphis
SMU
Houston
Central Florida
Tulane
East Carolina (football only)
Boise State (football only)
San Diego State (football only)

I have to feeling the incoming C-USA schools will follow through on their path to join the Big East. However, I see Boise State and San Diego high tailing it back to the MWC. Which strengthen the MWC to a level near the new Big East. This probably means C-USA is going to get raided by the remaining Big East and possibly by the MWC in the coming weeks.

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Posted: 12/13/2012 9:06 AM

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Posted: 12/13/2012 10:46 AM

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This whole deal going on with the Big East may wind up hurting NMSU's chances of getting into an FBS conference namely the Sun Belt.   The Sun Belt may decide to hold off inviting NMSU, if there was ever any truth to that rumor, to see what schools will be available when the C-USA schools that were on their way to the Big East come running back to C-USA.  And since C-USA may have jumped the gun with back filling so quickly with other schools the conference may not be able to take all of the C-USA schools that were headed for the Big East back.  That's where the Sun Belt may come into play.noidea
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Posted: 12/13/2012 10:47 AM

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As I said before, I think the Big East football conference will survive. Connecticut, Cincinnati, South Florida and Temple still need a home. The Big East will probably lose Boise State and San Diego State to the MWC however, they can back fill with more C-USA teams. The only monkey wrench in this shuffle might be that the MWC might not stop at just absorbing Boise State and San Diego State and could consider going after UTEP and Tulsa from C-USA or possibly setting their sights higher and try rolling out the red carpet to Houston and SMU from the weakened Big East. Either way, C-USA will be look to back fill from the Sun Belt. Where this leaves NMSU, I don't know?

 

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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:19 PM

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Why do people think -- assuming the Big East football conference stays alive under one name or the other -- that the defection of the non-football schools would affect San Diego State or Boise State?

They were never going to play Georgetown in basketball anyway, they joined for football.  If there is a still a football league, with the same football opponents they joined to participate with, why would they knee-jerk back to the MWC because of the actions of schools they weren't going to compete with in sports they already planned to play in the Big West?

Further, in terms of the CUSA "next man up" scenario for NMSU disappearing in the tumult following the Big East split..... give the CUSA people some credit.  They know more than we do sooner than we do and everyone has been waiting for the Big East hoop schools to bail on the football-oriented BE schools.

I think this is exactly what it is and not necessarily anything more.... the non-football schools leaving the Big East and a football conference still left in existence with little effect on Boise or San Diego.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:37 PM

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NMSUPistolPete wrote: As I said before, I think the Big East football conference will survive. Connecticut, Cincinnati, South Florida and Temple still need a home. The Big East will probably lose Boise State and San Diego State to the MWC however, they can back fill with more C-USA teams. The only monkey wrench in this shuffle might be that the MWC might not stop at just absorbing Boise State and San Diego State and could consider going after UTEP and Tulsa from C-USA or possibly setting their sights higher and try rolling out the red carpet to Houston and SMU from the weakened Big East. Either way, C-USA will be look to back fill from the Sun Belt. Where this leaves NMSU, I don't know?
Hmm... again why would Boise State and San Diego State leave? How does losing the basketball schools going to hurt them? LIGHT-BULB!!!!!! Boise State and San Diego State joined as football only members. The last time I checked the Big East still has all the football members. Now, if these basketball leaves, then it opens it up for the Big East to invite Boise State and San Diego State for all sports.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:40 PM

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NMSUPistolPete wrote: As I said before, I think the Big East football conference will survive. Connecticut, Cincinnati, South Florida and Temple still need a home. The Big East will probably lose Boise State and San Diego State to the MWC however, they can back fill with more C-USA teams. The only monkey wrench in this shuffle might be that the MWC might not stop at just absorbing Boise State and San Diego State and could consider going after UTEP and Tulsa from C-USA or possibly setting their sights higher and try rolling out the red carpet to Houston and SMU from the weakened Big East. Either way, C-USA will be look to back fill from the Sun Belt. Where this leaves NMSU, I don't know?
Hmm... again why would Boise State and San Diego State leave? How does losing the basketball schools going to hurt them? LIGHT-BULB!!!!!! Boise State and San Diego State joined as football only members. The last time I checked the Big East still has all the football members. Now, if these basketball leaves, then it opens it up for the Big East to invite Boise State and San Diego State for all sports.
Actually the basketball schools can dissolve the conference and keep the 'Big East' name.  Therefore all of the football members would then have to create a new conference.  More likely, they will be running home, begging for their chair back.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:55 PM

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I think the loss of the non-football schools will negatively effect the dollar amount of the Big East football TV package. If there is no real monetary gain for Boise State and San Diego State by joining the new Big East, then I can see them very easily going back to the MWC. Joining as a the new Big East as full member would be very costly for their non-revenue sports. 

 

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Posted: 12/13/2012 2:33 PM

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Saw this on the CUSA Board:

The Catholic schools could  vote to dissolve the league. With 7 votes out of 10 being cast (Connecticut, South Florida and Cincinnati are the other),  the Catholic schools would have the 2/3 majority to pass that measure.

Once that was done, the outstanding bills of the league would be paid and the assets would then be divided among the 10  members. But everything else disappears including the current agreements in place with football and basketball, naming rights for each conference and the issue of not only spots in the new football system of playoffs and bowl games as well as the NCAA tournament spot which is guaranteed to the Big East tournament champion.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...chools/1767387/

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ManzanoWolf wrote:

By LENN ROBBINS

Last Updated:  9:40 AM, December 13, 2012


The presidents of the seven schools that don’t play big time football - DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova - are holding a teleconference with Big East Commissioner Mike Aresco Thursday and expected to issue a statement this afternoon saying that are parting ways.

The teleconference was taking place this morning, and Aresco was hoping to hold the league together. But multiple sources said the seven basketball-centric schools had had enough of the defections that had wreaked havoc on the league in the last couple of years.

What is certain is that programs such as Temple, which is set to join the Big East in basketball next season, Cincinnati, Connecticut and South Florida, are in terrible limbo.

The Big East recently added a group of schools such as Boise State, Central Florida, East Carolina, Houston, San Diego State and SMU to bolster its football roster. Those schools might return to their respective conferences.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports...vTg8twF80US3G6H

Finally glad to see some BasketBall Schools Flex some of their Muscle. Create a "Super" Basketball Conf that would be so good they all get invited to the Big Dance..

Go totally Undefeated in Non Conf. games. Tell the Florida's the UCLA's and the KY jellies of the Big Bad Ass BSC's of the world,,,we will kicka you Ass anytime, anyplace, so next time we meet, senda you biga bad Ass futball team, and we kicka they ass too ,,,,BadTongue.gif

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Posted: 12/13/2012 4:02 PM

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memphis was invited as an FBS football team to balance, but really got the invite due to thier e xcellent basketball team. will Memphis want to stay with the 7 Catholic schools to form an 8 team basketball conference? or go back to C-USA?
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memphis was invited as an FBS football team to balance, but really got the invite due to thier e xcellent basketball team. will Memphis want to stay with the 7 Catholic schools to form an 8 team basketball conference? or go back to C-USA?
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Posted: 12/13/2012 4:56 PM

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Only one thing is for sure.......the dust wont settle for two or three years. There will be constant conference changes as schools react to other schools changes.

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ummm simple. Them leaving further reduces the TV deal, which was the only upside to the new Big East after the losses of Rutgers and Louisville. with the money being somewhat equal, why would Boise and SDSU want to join an unstable conference with slightly worse football (the MW is better then the Big East sans Rutgers and Louisville) and MUCH worse BBall conference in the Big West? seems like the smarter move would be to come to the MW and convince thompson to go to 16 by inviting SMU, Houston, UTEP, and another school (BYU if they agreed, which i doubt they would, if not them then either Tulsa, NMSU, or UTSA).

From Boise's standpoint it cuts down on travel costs for the olympic sports. From SDSU's perspective it would help their ticket sales, which i would expect to decrease in football (due to loss of home games against long time rivals) and basketball (due to playing in the crappy Big West).

but that's all speculation of course. It will be interesting that's for sure.

partyrockaggie wrote:
NMSUPistolPete wrote: As I said before, I think the Big East football conference will survive. Connecticut, Cincinnati, South Florida and Temple still need a home. The Big East will probably lose Boise State and San Diego State to the MWC however, they can back fill with more C-USA teams. The only monkey wrench in this shuffle might be that the MWC might not stop at just absorbing Boise State and San Diego State and could consider going after UTEP and Tulsa from C-USA or possibly setting their sights higher and try rolling out the red carpet to Houston and SMU from the weakened Big East. Either way, C-USA will be look to back fill from the Sun Belt. Where this leaves NMSU, I don't know?
Hmm... again why would Boise State and San Diego State leave? How does losing the basketball schools going to hurt them? LIGHT-BULB!!!!!! Boise State and San Diego State joined as football only members. The last time I checked the Big East still has all the football members. Now, if these basketball leaves, then it opens it up for the Big East to invite Boise State and San Diego State for all sports.
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Cincinnati, UConn talk of new all-sports league, could leverage ACC offer


Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

The proposed entrants would be UConn, Cincinnati, South Florida, Memphis, Temple, Boise State, San Diego State, UNLV, New Mexico and possibly BYU or Central Florida. Such a league would include football programs that are comparable and competitive, as well as extraordinary basketball featuring eight teams that reached the NCAA Tournament last season. NBC Sports Network is likely to be approached to gauge its interest in such a property.



http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ent-connecticut

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Cincinnati, UConn talk of new all-sports league, could leverage ACC offer


Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

The proposed entrants would be UConn, Cincinnati, South Florida, Memphis, Temple, Boise State, San Diego State, UNLV, New Mexico and possibly BYU or Central Florida. Such a league would include football programs that are comparable and competitive, as well as extraordinary basketball featuring eight teams that reached the NCAA Tournament last season. NBC Sports Network is likely to be approached to gauge its interest in such a property.



http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ent-connecticut
So much for the Lobos being considered.  surprised

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