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Interesting CDW quotes in Sun News today...
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Posted: 12/2/2012 8:24 AM
Interesting CDW quotes in Sun News today...
"I got a lot of thinking to do...A lot of stuff to think about. The coaches get on the road to recruit Tuesday. You don't want to go out like this."
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Posted: 12/2/2012 10:44 AM
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What were the problems with this year’s football team? 1. Poor coaching? 2. Lack of talent? Any other issues---the demise of the WAC, the "lack of commitment by NMSU", schedule---can be overcome to an extent if you have good coaching and decent talent. Case is point: UNM. One year removed from Locksley, UNM won some games and showed a lot of fight, even in their losses. NMSU football looked inept much of the season. Coaches are responsible for recruiting, organization, execution and motivation.
Something is terribly wrong and DeWayne Walker is the CEO of Aggie football. Yes, he has plenty to think about.
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Posted: 12/2/2012 11:46 AM
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I am afraid that after 4 years into the job he has very little to sell. Year 4 produced the worst year of his tenure so no up arrow tick to ride with, poor coaching staff I mean honsetly did anyone see improvement among the players this year at any position? There is ZERO Positive buzz about the FB program as we speak. Really sad state we are in
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Posted: 12/2/2012 12:46 PM
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The 3rd and 4th years of a new coach's program are usually the payoff years. Year 3 produced some good wins and gave fans hope, but year 4 was a disaster.
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Posted: 12/2/2012 1:18 PM
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This season was the perfect storm for NMSU's football collapse.
Last season, we had a mobile starting QB (Matt Christian, although it was because of a Andrew Manley injury) and a quick-as-a-hiccup all-purpose running back (Kenny Turner) to counter balance a mediocre offensive line and questionable defense. Additionally, we had a very good offensive coordinator (Doug Martin) who maximimized our offensive strengths with his play calling; sustaining drives, maintaining good ball management, and keeping our defense, for the most part, rested and on the sideline. We didn't have a great record (4-9) but we were otherwise competitive.
Now fast forward to this season, an immobile Andrew Manley is our starting QB and he needs a better than mediocre offensive line to give him time to throw the ball. We no longer have a lightening quick running back; who can find the smallest of openning in the offensive line to run through (or run around). Our replacement (Germi Morrison) needs good run blocking by the offensive line to open holes to run through. Additionally, our new offensive coordinator (Jerry McManus) play calling seemed to not match our personnel or maximize their strengths. Consequently, because of too many 3-and-outs and turnovers, our "highly" questionable spent way too much time on the field. And, compounding it all, because of NMSU's football future concerns, the players were mentally distracted and as the season progressed, gave up.
I still think DeWayne Walker can be a good head coach but I think his staff has let him down preparing the team. In that regard, I do question Walker's staff hirings. I think Walker needs to clean house and NMSU needs to give him more money to hire a better more experienced staff. Walker has a few years left on his contract (2016 thanks to Boston). So, if Walker can't make this team at least competitive by the end of 2014, I think NMSU will need to cut their losses and get rid of Walker.
Last edited 12/2/2012 1:32 PM by NMSUPistolPete
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Posted: 12/3/2012 11:01 AM
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Walker makes 385K a year and has won 10 games in 4 years, that comes out to about 160,000 per win of NM tax payers money. People ripped Mumme to no end when he won 11 games over 4 years, who would have thought that would look good compared to the coach that came after him. Walker was a defensive coach coming to town, he was supposed to slow down the opposition, instead we got the coach who lead UCLA to it's worse loss ever at BYU. Guess we should have seen this awful defense coming from his days at UCLA, Bravo Walker you have set NMSU back another 5 years.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 12:07 PM
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Does Coach Walker have the budget to hire and hold good acceptable coordinators and position coaches? No matter what the HC gets paid, he needs a staff to appraise the talent and adjust schemes to the players available.
All the best to you Crimson Aggies. You may need to clean house with the school administration to get things going on the gridiron.
Little gridiron success was enjoyed at Utah State until we got a school President who understood about football. He committed to a successful D1 program. Things changed in just a couple of years, and we just had our best season ever in football.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 12:53 PM
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Navyblueaggie wrote: Does Coach Walker have the budget to hire and hold good acceptable coordinators and position coaches? No matter what the HC gets paid, he needs a staff to appraise the talent and adjust schemes to the players available.
All the best to you Crimson Aggies. You may need to clean house with the school administration to get things going on the gridiron.
Little gridiron success was enjoyed at Utah State until we got a school President who understood about football. He committed to a successful D1 program. Things changed in just a couple of years, and we just had our best season ever in football. Nope, I think that is the crux of the problem. I think Walker is a capable head coach but his assistant coach salaries are probably the worst in FBS football. NMSU is getting the football results they are willing to paid their assistant coaches. NMSU had a good President a few years back in Dr. Michael Martin but LSU put an end to that. I'm hoping our new hire will bring back hope as far as NMSU athletics in concerned. |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 1:12 PM
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ReallyShaggie wrote: "I got a lot of thinking to do...A lot of stuff to think about. The coaches get on the road to recruit Tuesday. You don't want to go out like this." i think he is wondering if he has the resources to actually turn this around. When you start with a new offensive and defensive coordinator everytime there is even a hint of success on one side of the ball or the other (offense last year for example), combine it with a small budget and little support in the community (as to be expected given the performance), he probably is weighing his options. i saw enough in the first 3 years that he knows what he is doing when he has a decent staff and talent. What i haven't seen is his ability to recruit and improve year to year. This team had the easiest schedule by far since the Sun Belt days, a schedule Mumme would have drooled over her given what he faced in the WAC in his days with Boise/Hawaii/Fresno, and yet we couldn't compete. i have nothing personal against Walker and given our budget issues, it is clearly his decision on whether to return or not. As an Aggie fan, if he does come back i am hopeful he finds an offensive coordinator he can work with and put a better team on the field. The defense this year was simply left out on the field without a chance, given their lack of size and speed, and combined with an offense that wouldn't give them a breather. That is the side of the ball i would focus on first, offense. I don't think you can fix both sides at the same time. I'll keep hoping for the best, but it was a brutal year for Aggie football coaches, players, and fans. Perhaps the brightest note is there were no horrible injuries for the players and they had the opportunity to continue and get a college education. They are student athletes afterall, something i remind myself when i get too down on the team. |
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Posted: 12/3/2012 1:58 PM
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Look at the WAC stats KK posted earlier. Look at Time Of Possession. Middle of the pack. Look at last Saturday and the TOP, we had the ball double TSU. We scored 28 points! This is not the fault of the offense. If the excuse is the defense spends too much time on the field at half the game then we have a serious problem.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 2:09 PM
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WashingtonAggie wrote: Look at the WAC stats KK posted earlier. Look at Time Of Possession. Middle of the pack. Look at last Saturday and the TOP, we had the ball double TSU. We scored 28 points! This is not the fault of the offense. If the excuse is the defense spends too much time on the field at half the game then we have a serious problem. Four turnovers were the difference; two fumbles for touchdowns. I would say the offense (and special teams) dug the hole for the defense regardless of time of possession.
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Posted: 12/3/2012 2:36 PM
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There were lots of ugly stats put up by NMSU in 2012 but the MINUS 18 TURNOVER MARGIN was perhaps the most glaring.
Remember some of the turnovers at key times on punt returns? Gawd Awful!
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Posted: 12/3/2012 4:45 PM
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WashingtonAggie wrote: Look at the WAC stats KK posted earlier. Look at Time Of Possession. Middle of the pack. Look at last Saturday and the TOP, we had the ball double TSU. We scored 28 points! This is not the fault of the offense. If the excuse is the defense spends too much time on the field at half the game then we have a serious problem. Well, for last Saturday at least - the offense directly gave up 14 points. Special teams contributed another 14 direct points. The defense, for their part, did not spend any more time on the field than they had to. Two, three 3 plays and - touchdown Texas St! |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:56 AM
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Pistol I am just saying don't buy the lie that getting another OC will fix this mess. There is lots more wrong with this program than the OC. While the numbers were down from last season, they were not down that much. And they were better than what they were in 2010 when we beat 2 FBS teams. The biggest difference for the offense has been QB play. In three seasons Manley is now 1-18 as a starter. We are 6-12 when someone else starts in that same span. He has been sacked 65 times in 20 games. That is an average of a little more than 3 times a game, no matter who the OC or Offensive Line coach is. He would be best served in a West Coast or Air Raid style offense but Walker insists on the standard spread better suited for a mobile QB.
Regardless of the offense and what is happening there you can not ignore the fact that in 4 seasons the defense has steadily gotten worse. This season had all the advantages of quite possibly the easiest schedule we've played since joining the WAC. Part of the turn over margin is lack of take-aways. We do not force turn overs. We have a hard enough time tackling. Walker ran off a very good defensive mind in Joe Lee Dunn his first season because he wants things done his way. David Elson is a very qualified defensive coordinator but instead of using his 3-4 alignment and pressure schemes we ran the same basic defense used the three previous years. We very rarely blitz, only 58 sacks in 50 games. We play no zone and constantly get beat deep. And we get man handled up front and play no run defense. Safeties have led the team in tackles for 4 straight seasons.
And then there is special teams play. Why can we not return a single punt for more than a yard? In 2009 we averaged 10.2 yards per return, 2010 it was 6.2, last year saw us average 5.6 yards, this season we averaged 1.2 yards per return. 1.2 Yards Per Return! Not to mention that we only kicked 2 (TWO!) field goals all season. We gave up scoring opportunities because Walker had no faith in any one of our three kickers ability to put the ball through the uprights. Baca was a great weapon for our kick off team at the beginning of the year with 50% of his KO's going for touch backs. As poor as our coverage teams are that is huge. But for some reason he didn't kick the last half of the year and the other guy only booted it in the endzone 31% of the time. We pushed for Stampler to be an All-Conference guy then he only attempts 4 field goals and doesn't kick at all the second half of the season?
Lot's of issues and not all of them have to due with getting a new OC.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:01 AM
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With regard to the turnovers, I'm working strictly off memory here, but it seemed that the majority of the turnovers occurred when Manley had the ball. A ton of interceptions that killed momentum, and a lot of sacks where he fumbled the ball. I know he needs better protection, but why throw the ball if the receiver is covered. Also, if he is going to get sacked, he needs to protect the ball better. The entire team has serious issues, so it's impossible to blame the season on one player, or one coach, but many of the mistakes were due to poor fundamentals. I don't know what the solution is, but I have been following NMSU football for over 20 years, and this is absolutley the worst team we have ever had. That's saying a lot. This football season has drained my excitement for Aggie athletics, and I'm I die hard. I can't imagine what the casual fan is thinking.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:14 AM
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NMSUPistolPete wrote:
Navyblueaggie wrote: Does Coach Walker have the budget to hire and hold good acceptable coordinators and position coaches? No matter what the HC gets paid, he needs a staff to appraise the talent and adjust schemes to the players available.
All the best to you Crimson Aggies. You may need to clean house with the school administration to get things going on the gridiron.
Little gridiron success was enjoyed at Utah State until we got a school President who understood about football. He committed to a successful D1 program. Things changed in just a couple of years, and we just had our best season ever in football.
Nope, I think that is the crux of the problem. I think Walker is a capable head coach but his assistant coach salaries are probably the worst in FBS football. NMSU is getting the football results they are willing to paid their assistant coaches. NMSU had a good President a few years back in Dr. Michael Martin but LSU put an end to that. I'm hoping our new hire will bring back hope as far as NMSU athletics in concerned. The question that I have is if this is actually being mentioned in the public informational sessions? Is the BOR really hearing that message, that the next president needs to commit to funding D1 sports at NMSU (including football)? From what I have read, I don't think that's the case, but then again all I have read is what has been in the paper. Anyone with knowledge of the situation care to say if the BOR is getting this message? GO AGGIES!!! |
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