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BJ West-Why is he not playing???
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Posted: 11/19/2012 8:43 AM
BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Anyone know the reason why he is not playing? The short time he has played this year he has done well...what is going on?? IMO, Menzies needs to put this kid in!
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Posted: 11/19/2012 8:53 AM
Re: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
I agree...BJ is probably the best rebounder on the team. I see no reason why we don't run a three man rotation at the 5. Sim has proven he has talent beyond his 7'5" stature. Unfortunately he simply doesn't possess the conditioning to be the backup in a two man rotation.
As to the point of the post, I have no idea why BJ West isn't given more playing more.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:52 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
I agree with you on the rebounding; he is our best rebounder. I was expecting more from Sim- but he does lack the conditioning and speed to keep with with the fast paced teams. Saturday's game showed that Sim and Chili were exhausted with all their fouls. Lets use our bench and save on fouls. I would think that is basic.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:51 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Menzies also used Dixon at center yesterday. Admittedly, I would like to see more of Weary, Barry, and West. However, I think the real problem with this team is the point guard play. Once Ross-Miller and DeRouen gain more confidence running the offense things should get better. I think DeRouen has a slightly better understanding of Menzies system than Ross-Miller mainly because of his experience practicing with Laroche last season. But, I feel Ross-Miller will eventually catch up. Ross-Miller is only a sophomore. He was recovering from an injury last season and hasn't run an offense in a year-and-half; and that was only for half a season at a lower level program (UNO).
Aggie fans want to change line ups already but it still November and Menzies is dealing with two young point guards; which aren't currently making their teammates better. We need to be patient.
Last edited 11/19/2012 10:52 AM by NMSUPistolPete
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Posted: 11/19/2012 11:31 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
I would LOVE to see more West, Weary and Berry! For the life of me I can't understand why each of these guys aren't getting more minutes.
As I said in another post, MM seems to stick with his rotations, Sim in for Chili, DeRouen in for KCRM, Dixon in for Sy, Aronis in for Watson. If history repeats itself, this will be the case for the remainder of the year. West, Weary and Berry will only see playing time in blowout wins.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 11:45 AM
Re: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Bhullar is a project Freshman, deserves project minutes. His conditioning is subpar, and is making him a transition liability.
West is a seasoned Junior in Menzies' program and can do alot within the system. Needs time to shine!
-Frustrated in LC
Go NM State!
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Posted: 11/19/2012 11:48 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Do West Weary and Berry practice well? Do they clown around? Are they making the grades? Are they in the dog house? Do they show up to class? Are they taking care of business?
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Posted: 11/19/2012 11:54 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
I don't think BJ has ever had trouble with academic matters, he's stayed at NMSU despite not playing much in four years so I'd imagine he is in good standing with MM. It's puzzling, and for someone to say obvious coach doesn't think he's ready is strange as heck to me. IMO it's obvious Sim is not ready but he stays in.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:08 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
RioRanchoAggie wrote: Do West Weary and Berry practice well? Do they clown around? Are they making the grades? Are they in the dog house? Do they show up to class? Are they taking care of business? None of us know the above answers, thats why I dont discuss other players playing time. MM has some very experienced assistant coaches that I am sure would suggest to MM other rotations that may help the Aggies win games. There are many factors taken into account when making rotation decisions. The more MM wins, the more money he makes. If a player is busting his butt in practice, in the classroom, has talent and conducts himself in a professional matter off the court he will see the court. In the case of Weary, Barry and West if it is not one of the above issues, it is possible in practice they have too many defensive breakdowns, too many bad shots etc., etc.,......maybe he is wanting to see better practice results before putting them in a place where they could lose the game for us based on what he sees in practice. I doubt MM is not playing West for example because he "likes" Watson, Chili or Sim better as a person. He (I believe) is putting the players on the court that give us the best chance to win in his and his assistant coaches opinion, based on what he sees in practice and court time.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:10 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
nmsuaggie55 wrote: I agree with you on the rebounding; he is our best rebounder. I was expecting more from Sim- but he does lack the conditioning and speed to keep with with the fast paced teams. Saturday's game showed that Sim and Chili were exhausted with all their fouls. Lets use our bench and save on fouls. I would think that is basic. I've noticed West getting into the game later when Sim is tired. Maybe West should play earlier in the game so Sim is less of a liability in the later stages of the game. Maybe.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:33 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
kieshbecrimson wrote: I don't think BJ has ever had trouble with academic matters, he's stayed at NMSU despite not playing much in four years so I'd imagine he is in good standing with MM. It's puzzling, and for someone to say obvious coach doesn't think he's ready is strange as heck to me. IMO it's obvious Sim is not ready but he stays in.
I don't think BJ has ever been in trouble with academics either. He is the one that we never hear about in trouble about anything. Sim is not ready. IMO I say MM is only playing Sim for the media hype of how Sim is going to be in the NBA. MM would love to have his hands all over that. And maybe Sim is going to the NBA, but as of now, Sim is not helping the team. Personally, helping the Aggies is more important. MM needs to let Sim get to where he needs to be and let West on the court.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 3:00 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
That was my point, we don't know the answers. --------------------------------------------- --- worthamention wrote: RioRanchoAggie wrote: Do West Weary and Berry practice well? Do they clown around? Are they making the grades? Are they in the dog house? Do they show up to class? Are they taking care of business? None of us know the above answers, thats why I dont discuss other players playing time. MM has some very experienced assistant coaches that I am sure would suggest to MM other rotations that may help the Aggies win games. There are many factors taken into account when making rotation decisions. The more MM wins, the more money he makes. If a player is busting his butt in practice, in the classroom, has talent and conducts himself in a professional matter off the court he will see the court. In the case of Weary, Barry and West if it is not one of the above issues, it is possible in practice they have too many defensive breakdowns, too many bad shots etc., etc.,......maybe he is wanting to see better practice results before putting them in a place where they could lose the game for us based on what he sees in practice. I doubt MM is not playing West for example because he "likes" Watson, Chili or Sim better as a person. He (I believe) is putting the players on the court that give us the best chance to win in his and his assistant coaches opinion, based on what he sees in practice and court time. ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:15 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Just like Walker has a fetish with Manley Menzies has a fetish with Nephawe over West.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:44 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Man this board is so cuckoo when we lose.
"Menzies can't coach!!" Well, ummm, two NCAA tournament appearances in the last 3 years, three 20+ win seasons.
"Menzies can't recruit!!" Lets see, Wendell, Troy, LaRoche, Mullings and many others.
"Our starters can't score so lets put in bench players to pull out the win!!" What???
"Menzies only cares about 3 wins in March!!" Thats just plain nuts given so many monetary incentives otherwise. If that were the case he would be playing the bench more. All I have to say is WtF??
There's more but I think the message is made. I don't like that we lost to Niagara and I don't think our players or coaches did either. Maybe some ought to think a little more about what you type to carry a little more credence. No?
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Last edited 11/19/2012 9:50 PM by loobh8r
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:49 PM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing??? (1 vote)
loobh8r wrote: Man this board is so cuckoo when we lose.
"Menzies can't coach!!" Well, ummm, two NCAA tournament appearances in the last 3 years, three 20+ win seasons.
"Menzies can't recruit!!" Lets see, Wendell, Troy, LaRoche, Mullings and many others.
"Our starters can't score so lets put in bench players to pull out the win!!" What???
"Menzies only cares about 3 wins in March!!" Thats just plain nuts given so many monetary incentives otherwise. If that were the case he would be playing the bench more. All I have to say is WtF??
There's more but I think the message is made. I don't like that we lost to Niagara and I don't think our players or coaches did either. Maybe some ought to think a little more about what you type to carry a little more credence. No? Just tired of losing bro...just tired of losing.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 7:21 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
I wasn't singleing you out DA, and I get frustrated losing especially after blowing a 16 point lead with under 10 minutes left, but to start the sky is falling by so many after it is just over the top...
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Posted: 11/20/2012 8:05 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
RioRanchoAggie wrote: Do West Weary and Berry practice well? Do they clown around? Are they making the grades? Are they in the dog house? Do they show up to class? Are they taking care of business? I can tell you they look real good in Pick-up games,,,alot better than #10 and #25!! #10 need to barley come off the bench. He shoot 30% at best most of the time, with a ESPN Dunk every 4th or 5th game. Start Weary on Wed and Friday along with West and TDR!!!!
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Posted: 11/20/2012 8:29 AM
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I second that^^^
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Posted: 11/20/2012 9:14 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing???
Being a senior and getting a amount of playing time he has recieved over the last few years, I am very disappointed with Sy's development. He is arguably our best athlete but he has failed to refine his skills.
Sy's three point release looks pretty coming off his finger tips but it rarely finds the bottom of the net. I think Sy's has trouble gauging the strength on his release because he is not consistent with the elevation of "jump" on his jump shot. More times than not he is long on his shot and hits the back iron. Right now, Watson's ugly looking fundamentally flawed three point shot has a better chance of hitting the bottom of the net than Sy's.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 11:27 AM
RE: BJ West-Why is he not playing??? (2 votes)
the huge mystery why west doesnt get playing time was solved for anyone who saw the game last night against LA Lafay. west missed a wide open uncontested dunk and directly followed that up with a missed layup. west is not nearly as athletic as some of u hope or think he is.
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