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Men's Lacrosse Coaching Change

Posted: 8/14/2014 2:24 PM

Men's Lacrosse Coaching Change 


According to the Capital today, J. L. Reppert is leaving Navy to work for John Tilman
at Maryland.  He played under Tilman at Navy and was an assistant to him at Harvard.
Not good for men's lacrosse when a good coach and grad leaves for the Twerps.
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Posted: 8/14/2014 2:41 PM

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mjmna65 wrote: According to the Capital today, J. L. Reppert is leaving Navy to work for John Tilman
at Maryland.  He played under Tilman at Navy and was an assistant to him at Harvard.
Not good for men's lacrosse when a good coach and grad leaves for the Twerps.
We are at rock bottom in terms of lacrosse.  He is lucky he was able to make the move.  By the way Moran opened the spot for him.  It is really musical chairs.

Right now, I am not sure that anyone on the Navy staff can be considered a good coach.  Unless records mean absolutely nothing.
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Posted: 8/14/2014 4:01 PM

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Good for him.

http://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/ph-ac-cs-reppert-leaves-0814-20140814,0,7331910.story

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Posted: 8/14/2014 5:59 PM

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Wags mentioned this might happen Aug 6 on twitter. Not good.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 5:42 PM

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Wags mentioned this might happen Aug 6 on twitter. Not good.

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What is infinitely worse is that a major program is in a massive tailspin, and we lose a well respected coach that is an alumnus...and no one cares. Navy Lax, please join Navy basketball in the irrelevant suite.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 6:39 PM

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USNAUSMC wrote:


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Wags mentioned this might happen Aug 6 on twitter. Not good.

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What is infinitely worse is that a major program is in a massive tailspin, and we lose a well respected coach that is an alumnus...and no one cares. Navy Lax, please join Navy basketball in the irrelevant suite.
Incredibly stupid statement........wanna bet ten grand ?
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Posted: 8/16/2014 7:16 PM

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wglap wrote:
USNAUSMC wrote:


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Wags mentioned this might happen Aug 6 on twitter. Not good.

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What is infinitely worse is that a major program is in a massive tailspin, and we lose a well respected coach that is an alumnus...and no one cares. Navy Lax, please join Navy basketball in the irrelevant suite.
Incredibly stupid statement........wanna bet ten grand ?
Thanks for the high order analysis, but because (obviously) I am not nearly as smart as you are when it comes to Lacrosse, what exactly is stupid? That the program is in a tailspin? That we lost a well respected coach, or that Navy lax is on its way to irrelevance?
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Posted: 8/16/2014 8:04 PM

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USNAUSMC wrote:
wglap wrote:
USNAUSMC wrote:


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Wags mentioned this might happen Aug 6 on twitter. Not good.

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What is infinitely worse is that a major program is in a massive tailspin, and we lose a well respected coach that is an alumnus...and no one cares. Navy Lax, please join Navy basketball in the irrelevant suite.
Incredibly stupid statement........wanna bet ten grand ?
Thanks for the high order analysis, but because (obviously) I am not nearly as smart as you are when it comes to Lacrosse, what exactly is stupid? That the program is in a tailspin? That we lost a well respected coach, or that Navy lax is on its way to irrelevance?
Your statement included basketball....hence my retort. Over to you Chet.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 9:04 PM

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Navy lacrosse is quickly fading into irrelevance.  The grads feel disconnected and apathetic towards the program and I know there is a feeling that there is something different about the type of person Sowell is bringing in versus the type of person Meade brought in. We are exactly where we deserve to be after the sham job Chet pulled on Meade.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 9:35 PM

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20NCL09 wrote: Navy lacrosse is quickly fading into irrelevance.  The grads feel disconnected and apathetic towards the program and I know there is a feeling that there is something different about the type of person Sowell is bringing in versus the type of person Meade brought in. We are exactly where we deserve to be after the sham job Chet pulled on Meade.
E Pluribus Laxpowerrolleyes
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Posted: 8/17/2014 1:28 PM

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20NCL09 wrote: Navy lacrosse is quickly fading into irrelevance.  The grads feel disconnected and apathetic towards the program and I know there is a feeling that there is something different about the type of person Sowell is bringing in versus the type of person Meade brought in. We are exactly where we deserve to be after the sham job Chet pulled on Meade.
You can think what you want, but that is complete garbage.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 3:52 PM

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20NCL09 wrote: I know there is a feeling that there is something different about the type of person Sowell is bringing in versus the type of person Meade brought in. 

I know I'm going to regret this, but care to elaborate?  

Pretty sure Meade's recruits weren't complete angels when it came to conduct and academics like you're making them out to be with the above statement.

Mids are Mids.  I doubt it matters who the coach is - they'll still find stupid ways to get in trouble.

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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:23 AM

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20NCL09 wrote: Navy lacrosse is quickly fading into irrelevance.  The grads feel disconnected and apathetic towards the program and I know there is a feeling that there is something different about the type of person Sowell is bringing in versus the type of person Meade brought in. We are exactly where we deserve to be after the sham job Chet pulled on Meade.
We stink.  However, I think it has been because of a lack of recruiting for at least six years.  You figure out what that means.  You have to show up in their living rooms to recruit them.  Nobody cares if you won a leadership award.

I do not think, for a minute, that grads do not care.  I am a grad, as are my two daughters, and we all care that Navy lacrosse sucks right now.  It is really not fun to watch us get beat all the time, especially when you consider our history.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:16 PM

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20NCL09 wrote: I know there is a feeling that there is something different about the type of person Sowell is bringing in versus the type of person Meade brought in. 
I know I'm going to regret this, but care to elaborate?  

Pretty sure Meade's recruits weren't complete angels when it came to conduct and academics like you're making them out to be with the above statement.

Mids are Mids.  I doubt it matters who the coach is - they'll still find stupid ways to get in trouble.



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Has nothing to do with getting in trouble, 86. And I can only account for the grads and my friends/former teammates that I speak regularly with -- some of whom were team leaders and highly decorated players. It has something to do with what being a Navy lacrosse player meant and there is a perception that the new guys don't get it.

NI and WG, slam all you want. I love Navy lax and what it did for me and want it to succeed. I'm just pointing out how a large contingent of former players feel.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:21 PM

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20NCL09 wrote:
Has nothing to do with getting in trouble, 86. And I can only account for the grads and my friends/former teammates that I speak regularly with -- some of whom were team leaders and highly decorated players. It has something to do with what being a Navy lacrosse player meant and there is a perception that the new guys don't get it.
Okay, so it was just an aggressive "when I was a Mid" comment. wiwam.gif

Heck, a lot of you younger grads don't get "it" either.  Just like wglap probably says people from my timeframe don't either.  

You need to be careful about how and where you say things like that though.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 4:24 PM

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USNA86 wrote:
20NCL09 wrote:
Has nothing to do with getting in trouble, 86. And I can only account for the grads and my friends/former teammates that I speak regularly with -- some of whom were team leaders and highly decorated players. It has something to do with what being a Navy lacrosse player meant and there is a perception that the new guys don't get it.
Okay, so it was just an aggressive "when I was a Mid" comment. wiwam.gif

Heck, a lot of you younger grads don't get "it" either.  Just like wglap probably says people from my timeframe don't either.  

You need to be careful about how and where you say things like that though.
86,

Great job moderating.

Just wondering; what exactly do we need to get?  I think we suck.  Am I wrong?
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Posted: 8/18/2014 6:21 PM

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allnavy wrote:
USNA86 wrote:
20NCL09 wrote:
Has nothing to do with getting in trouble, 86. And I can only account for the grads and my friends/former teammates that I speak regularly with -- some of whom were team leaders and highly decorated players. It has something to do with what being a Navy lacrosse player meant and there is a perception that the new guys don't get it.
Okay, so it was just an aggressive "when I was a Mid" comment. wiwam.gif

Heck, a lot of you younger grads don't get "it" either.  Just like wglap probably says people from my timeframe don't either.  

You need to be careful about how and where you say things like that though.
86,

Great job moderating.

Just wondering; what exactly do we need to get?  I think we suck.  Am I wrong?
It's one thing to say a team sucks on the field.  It's entirely another to question the character of the players that make up that team.

If you're going to do the first, back it up with some facts.  If you want to do the second, you should probably do it someplace other than here.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:00 PM

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I didn't know if we were "better" in 2014, but Navy was definitely more fun to watch than in 2013.

I miss being a top team.
After football season, Lax was my Navy highlight.

I just hope we get better.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 9:39 AM

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I think some alumni have to adjust to the new reality that with the growth of lacrosse as a sport in this country and with so many more college options available to young players-- the days of Navy being a perennial power on the national stage are long gone.  The best we will do is much like the men's soccer team-- make some noise now and then but never really contend for anything on the national stage.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 11:51 AM

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I don't think many of us hold the belief that we should be a perennial power anymore. I DO believe we should at least be competitive within the Patriot League and with Army, something we have not been for quite a while now.

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I think some alumni have to adjust to the new reality that with the growth of lacrosse as a sport in this country and with so many more college options available to young players-- the days of Navy being a perennial power on the national stage are long gone.  The best we will do is much like the men's soccer team-- make some noise now and then but never really contend for anything on the national stage.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 12:54 PM

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I don't think many of us hold the belief that we should be a perennial power anymore. I DO believe we should at least be competitive within the Patriot League and with Army, something we have not been for quite a while now.

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I think some alumni have to adjust to the new reality that with the growth of lacrosse as a sport in this country and with so many more college options available to young players-- the days of Navy being a perennial power on the national stage are long gone.  The best we will do is much like the men's soccer team-- make some noise now and then but never really contend for anything on the national stage.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:10 PM

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Agree.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:38 PM

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Amen.  It's not about national championships.  It's about competing in our own league and with our arch rival. ohlord
73Goat wrote:
I don't think many of us hold the belief that we should be a perennial power anymore. I DO believe we should at least be competitive within the Patriot League and with Army, something we have not been for quite a while now.

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Posted: 8/21/2014 12:33 PM

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beer90 wrote: I think some alumni have to adjust to the new reality that with the growth of lacrosse as a sport in this country and with so many more college options available to young players-- the days of Navy being a perennial power on the national stage are long gone.  

I'm not sure I buy into that.  How many more D-1 programs are there since we national cmhampion runner-ups--8 or 9 programs?  There were 53 D-1 programs back then and probbaly in the 60s now.  We should still be able to compete.  That's just my opinion of ocurse.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 2:01 PM

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The 'issue' is not the number of programs, because you are correct, there aren't that many new D1 programs. The  'issue' as I see it is that HS Lax has been growing (supposedly the fastest growing HS sport in the country) so that there are a lot more talented players available to the existing college programs than 10 years ago. The talent pool is far beyond the old 'hotbeds' of HS Lax. That and specifically some  Patriot league teams have increased their recruiting of talented Canadian HS kids.
ElJefe91 wrote:
beer90 wrote: I think some alumni have to adjust to the new reality that with the growth of lacrosse as a sport in this country and with so many more college options available to young players-- the days of Navy being a perennial power on the national stage are long gone.  

I'm not sure I buy into that.  How many more D-1 programs are there since we national cmhampion runner-ups--8 or 9 programs?  There were 53 D-1 programs back then and probbaly in the 60s now.  We should still be able to compete.  That's just my opinion of ocurse.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 2:07 PM

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LAX is not football, baseball, basketball or hockey - there is no real big professional money in LAX.

LAX is not swimming, gymnastics or track - there are no olympic medals, glory or endorsements.  LAX does not demand any corresponding lifetime 6-8+ hour per day conditioning commitments (that those sports demand).

Navy has a lot to offer LAX recruits.  
Competitive in the Patriot league for LAX is a very low bar to shoot for.

Aim low and fall short every single time.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 3:05 PM

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Let's see what this season brings. There hasn't been much improvement over the last 3 years. This program has had great long term success. There's no reason it can't continue with the RIGHT leadership.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 4:54 PM

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he days of Navy being a perennial power on the national stage are long gone.  
mad If the institution believes this, we should cx the program.  I do not believe it.  I coached at the HS level...I see first hand that Navy is not getting around to the places they need to be to recruit against Army, Duke, JHU, and the Ivies.  They are not even trying for the best players in the west, and we can't bring in JUCO transfers to solve this problem...but it is solvable, the issue lies in recruiting. One thing I remember about my recruiting visit as a starry eyed high schooler was how much the players loved the team, and being a Navy Lax player...they often weren't that fond of the institutional rules, but the fact that they did it because they loved Navy Lacrosse sold me.  The attitude was that we were going to contend for a national championship every time we choose to field a team.  <<redacted to conform with non-rumor policy>>

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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:07 PM

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touch.baltimoresun.com/#story/...ppert-20140822/

I wonder whom we will get to replace JL...perhaps a JUCO transfer or a Canadian?
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Posted: 8/25/2014 12:40 PM

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SkateG wrote: Amen.  It's not about national championships.  It's about competing in our own league and with our arch rival. ohlord
73Goat wrote:
I don't think many of us hold the belief that we should be a perennial power anymore. I DO believe we should at least be competitive within the Patriot League and with Army, something we have not been for quite a while now.

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And when a new PL member (Loyola) just won a National Championship, it becomes even more difficult to accomplish.  This program is at rock bottom.  Hopefully, there will be improvement, not more of the same.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 5:22 PM

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Just read a post on Inside lacrosse that former UMD attackman Mike Phipps is the new OC for Sowell.  

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/assistants-walker-leaving-princeton-for-health-issues-phipps-to-navy-bernhardt-to-rutgers/29515

http://www.highpointpanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=512&path=mlacrosse
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Posted: 8/25/2014 5:26 PM

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