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Gay Marriage at USMA

  • RedLeg94
  • Sgt. of the Guard
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:30 AM

Gay Marriage at USMA 


I am sure this will get deleted or moved to the "Foxhole" but I wanted you all to see this first. Although I don't care what people do in their life as long as it consensual with all parties involved, I have to admit this one hurts. At some point we as a nation have to climb back up the slippery slope. If we don't (it is probably too late) we will perish as a sovereign nation.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.c...esbian-wedding/

Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing.

- Moulton, Lord

Posted: 12/4/2012 8:06 AM

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Congratulations to West Point and all involved in these same sex marriages. The US lost out on generations of great soldiers prior to the Buffalo Soldiers paving the way for black Americans to thrive in the Armed Forces. Hopefully this ushers in another group of proud Americans that will be able to serve their country.

Posted: 12/4/2012 9:02 AM

Pet Marriage 


I have been wanting too marry my Golden Retriever   She has lived with me for ten years.  My vet says he will do the ceremony.  Hopefully I can get the Cadet Chapel for the ceremony & I can have some cadets stand in and happily draw their Sabres for us.

We went to Atlanta and said "yes" to the specially designed dog collar.

Kibbles & Bits for all at the reception.

Posted: 12/4/2012 9:36 AM

Thought you only posted about Army Football? 


Or at least you claimed on 11/16....

"2000+ posts on Army football.  Rarely nitpicking uniforms... "

Last edited 12/4/2012 10:24 AM by keco616

Posted: 12/4/2012 9:41 AM

Re: Thought you only posted about Army Football? 


keco,

wrong Red.... silly to hold this for so long.... then pick the wrong guy

Posted: 12/4/2012 10:14 AM

Re: Thought you only posted about Army Football? 


Fair enough. Point is this is not a post for a football board. Some would find your commentary offensive.

Last edited 12/4/2012 10:18 AM by keco616

Posted: 12/4/2012 10:21 AM

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Gays have always been able to serve. Just keep it in the closet like any other immoral activity. Comparing the homosexual issue to the fight for racial equality is demeaning to blacks, hispanics, asians, etc. 


KickingMule wrote: Congratulations to West Point and all involved in these same sex marriages. The US lost out on generations of great soldiers prior to the Buffalo Soldiers paving the way for black Americans to thrive in the Armed Forces. Hopefully this ushers in another group of proud Americans that will be able to serve their country.

Last edited 12/4/2012 10:25 AM by 74sir

Posted: 12/4/2012 11:24 AM

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It is not demeaning in my household; and I am black and have an asian wife.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 3:30 PM

A prime example of what Sen. Moynihan called America's... 


defining deviancy down. Sleazy.

Posted: 12/4/2012 5:05 PM

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In the wake of the Petraeus scandal, we should question who gets to define sexual morality and who gets to be its enforcers.  I would bet money that the General somewhere in his career drove soldiers out of the Army for sexual morality based infractions. The hypocrisy of sexual practice enforcement in the military is a discredit to us all.  Good on West Point for allowing the same sex ceremony in the Cadet Chapel.

Posted: 12/4/2012 5:09 PM

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The fact that we're all hypocrites doesn't mean we should elevate deviancy.

Posted: 12/4/2012 5:41 PM

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But 74, who gets to define what deviancy is and who should have the power to impose their definition on others using the tools of the state??  I would not want Shria Law adherents, even if they were duly elected, to dictate how I should live.  We will all be happier living in a free land, and according others their freedoms, so we can focus on truly important things like beating Navy.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:37 PM

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According to the moral code that has existed for all time, a marriage is defined as the joining in a union of one man and one woman no matter what religion one ascribes to or not at all.
There is no same sex marriage according the moral code all people have abided to in mans history.
What we have here is no marriage but some other agreement between two men or two women.
What that agreement is, is up to the individuals who make that agreement.
All I know it is not a marriage that we have known it to be since the world began.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:21 PM

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RABBLE wrote: According to the moral code that has existed for all time, a marriage is defined as the joining in a union of one man and one woman no matter what religion one ascribes to or not at all.
There is no same sex marriage according the moral code all people have abided to in mans history.
What we have here is no marriage but some other agreement between two men or two women.
What that agreement is, is up to the individuals who make that agreement.
All I know it is not a marriage that we have known it to be since the world began.
Rab, this may be your best post ever!  The Sky is Blue.  The Sky cannot be Orange just because a small minority suddenly deems it so in contradiction to a universally accepted truth.  There are incontrovertible truths in this world and marriage as a union between an man and woman is one of those.  Civil unions or life partners with benefits...God Bless them, but it is not a marriage.  Gays are merely re-defining marriage to justify their sexual conduct and force societal acceptance of it.  And, for the record, I am good with smoking hot lesbians.  biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Be Straight or Be Gone!  Moose Out.

Last edited 12/4/2012 7:22 PM by 86Moose

Posted: 12/4/2012 7:30 PM

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Western culture has done a fairly decent job defining morality, overall, until the last generation or so. Living in a free land doesn't mean that every man is a law unto himself and I don't think one can truly compare Islam to the Judeo/Christian worldview that built western civilization. Lot's to talk about here, preferrably at a pub.

As far as the truly important things; sorry, I'm from the other board. I'll be there with a few classmates. Would enjoy meeting some of you. I know you'll bring your A-game, but Beat Army!

Bagpiper wrote: But 74, who gets to define what deviancy is and who should have the power to impose their definition on others using the tools of the state??  I would not want Shria Law adherents, even if they were duly elected, to dictate how I should live.  We will all be happier living in a free land, and according others their freedoms, so we can focus on truly important things like beating Navy.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:37 PM

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RedLeg94 wrote:

I am sure this will get deleted or moved to the "Foxhole" but I wanted you all to see this first. Although I don't care what people do in their life as long as it consensual with all parties involved, I have to admit this one hurts. At some point we as a nation have to climb back up the slippery slope. If we don't (it is probably too late) we will perish as a sovereign nation.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.c...esbian-wedding/


In the picture associated with that article, are the cadets forced to be a part of the "wedding"?

What if they belong to religions that reject "weddings" of people of the same sex?  They're still forced to be a part of the "service"?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:53 PM

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According to the moral code that has existed for all time, a marriage is defined as the joining in a union of one man and one woman no matter what religion one ascribes to or not at all.

That's patently incorrect. The most common form of marriage throughout global history has been (and still is, in some parts of the world) polygamy, which was commonplace even in the Judeo-Christian tradition. The Old Testament is loaded with references to keeping multiple wives and concubines, and notes that such behavior is perfectly normal and acceptable for God-fearing men. It wasn't until well into the first millennium AD that the Christian and Jewish faiths finally abandoned polygamy.

If two people love each other and want to affirm that love through the institution of marriage, I don't see how that harms people in traditional male/female marriages. How about the 50% + of "sacred" and "traditional" marriages that end in divorce? Does anybody here support legislation that would outlaw divorce to preserve the institution of marriage? The definition of marriage is constantly evolving, and it has been since the idea of matrimony was first cooked up in prehistory. People don't have the same prejudices and hang-ups that they used to, and that's something we're all just going to have to come to terms with.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:06 PM

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Right or wrong, traditional, modern marriage in the U.S and Western civilization has been defined as a union between a man and woman.  It is what it is.....the fact that 2 men or 2 women love each other does not change that fundamental institution.  The fact that polygamy was once acceptable over 1000 years ago does not change it.  The fact that traditional marriages result in divorce does not change it.

I have nothing against gays or lesbians (or the cross-dressing 50 something male attorney I saw in court this morning....not pretty though).  In fact, I am all for hot blonde lesbians.  That said, I absolutely loathe those who are forcibly re-defining "marriage" in an effort to force societal acceptance of their lifestyle choice.  As if calling their homosexual relationship a marriage will gain anymore acceptance or equality from those who dislike their lifestyle choices.

Call it civil unions and give them full equal rights, but it ain't marriage.  In their epic civil rights struggles, black people never demanded to be called white.  They demanded and deserved equal justice and rights under the law.  But, to my knowledge, black people never tried to re-define themselves as white.
Be Straight or Be Gone!  Moose Out.

Posted: 12/4/2012 10:04 PM

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The point of my earlier post about marrying a dog is exactly about this - deviancy & where do you draw the line & maybe more importantly why you draw the line.  

Yes we are all hypocrites, or sinners. I am not lobbying congress and creating PACs trying to get my sin legalized, or normalized.  I am appalled at the decision to allow this at my beloved West Point.  Next thing you know it will be mandated by our Government that there must be Gay & Lesbian Clubs at West Point for Cadets.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:38 AM

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oldgrad74 wrote: I have been wanting too marry my Golden Retriever   She has lived with me for ten years.  My vet says he will do the ceremony.  Hopefully I can get the Cadet Chapel for the ceremony & I can have some cadets stand in and happily draw their Sabres for us.

We went to Atlanta and said "yes" to the specially designed dog collar.

Kibbles & Bits for all at the reception.
dogs can't give consent

are you people seriously this bigoted and stupid?

hey yeah lets not give this certain group of people the same rights as everyone else, lets go back to segregation yay
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