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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:17 PM
ONLY 14 SPRING PRACTICES?
Here we go again! 14 spring drills where the NCAA allows 15 spring drills and at 7AM too. Typical of this lack of using every precious second of practice to get this team in shape. Not only we are the earliest team to begin spring ball but even the time of the day is stupid. Remember the picture last year of Thomas Holloway in spring practice with a big yawn on his face at 7AM? Yeah, I'm sure not only he but everybody else is sharp as a tack at damnsite dawn in the morning. " Gee, hurry up guys. Cut practice short so we can get to eat our morning Corn Flakes!!" You gotta be kiddin' me!! Is this crap for real or just a bunch of bull shi$ ?? Maybe RE wants to be out of Foley by 11AM so he can watch The View. Man, this stuff is gettin' to me.  |
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:23 PM
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One practice is at 7AM on a Sunday morning in February?? Who the hell is the crackpot who set up this schedule?  And three straight that weekend on Saturday, Sunday and Monday? Three in a row? At 7AM? My Lord! What the hell is goin' on up there?? I'll tell you guys, something has got to change this year. I'm losing my patience and cool. Obviously, this schedule 'aint one of them. |
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:25 PM
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And YES, I am ticked off already!!
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:36 PM
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I'm sorry guys but I think this staff is just plain lazy. Coming off a 2-10 season, I would think these coaches would be breathing fire and brimstone and lighting the teams butt up with some tough, rough, hard-hitting practices. I would like to see some genuine honest to goodness sore bodies come March 9th. What the hell!! They got til the end of July to get healed, don't they? Of course they won't remember a damn thing they learned because between the 9th of March and the end of July is 5 plus months in the first place. Other schools won't even have begun practice by the time we end it. You know something is doggone wrong here and it stinks.  |
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:38 PM
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Yeah, its an honest to goodness RABBLEANCH here and we 'aint even started spring practice yet!! GEEZS!! |
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Posted: 2/10/2013 11:18 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- RABBLE wrote: One practice is at 7AM on a Sunday morning in February?? Who the hell is the crackpot who set up this schedule? And three straight that weekend on Saturday, Sunday and Monday? Three in a row? At 7AM? My Lord! What the hell is goin' on up there?? I'll tell you guys, something has got to change this year. I'm losing my patience and cool. Obviously, this schedule 'aint one of them. --------------------------------------------- Rabble - you do realize that ARMY is more than just a word on the players' uniforms? These guys will, in fact, join and lead soldiers in THE Army one day. Complaining about early morning practices...practices three days in a row...come on. What time do you think soldiers in THE Army do their physical training? How many days in a row do you think some of our soldiers in Afghanistan are patrolling through the mountains wearing a hundred pounds of gear before they get a shower let alone a day off? |
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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:09 AM
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FiftiesFB wrote:
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One practice is at 7AM on a Sunday morning in February??
Who the hell is the crackpot who set up this schedule?
And three straight that weekend on Saturday, Sunday and Monday? Three in a row? At 7AM? My Lord!
What the hell is goin' on up there??
I'll tell you guys, something has got to change this year. I'm losing my patience and cool. Obviously, this schedule 'aint one of them.
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Rabble - you do realize that ARMY is more than just a word on the players' uniforms? These guys will, in fact, join and lead soldiers in THE Army one day. Complaining about early morning practices...practices three days in a row...come on. What time do you think soldiers in THE Army do their physical training? How many days in a row do you think some of our soldiers in Afghanistan are patrolling through the mountains wearing a hundred pounds of gear before they get a shower let alone a day off? The point of practice is to get the most out of it, so we win some games this year. A coach who does things differently, and loses a lot of games, is usually wrong.
If our rationale is that soldiers do it this or that way, we could reason that WP should practice at 0200 in Nuristan province. Keep The Faith and Keep On Swinging
Last edited 2/11/2013 9:15 AM by OlBarn
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:27 AM
This is why I am grateful for the Ignore Option
I wonder what time Cadets get up in the morning?
Football players get to sleep in so this really ticks them off too.
Let's see if maybe we can complain that there is only one fork per plate for lunch & dinner. How can we expect any of our linemen to gain weight with only one fork!
Practice at 7am - why that is just lazy, lazy coaching.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:32 AM
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Only one word to say, ridiculous.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:01 AM
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OlBarn wrote:
FiftiesFB wrote:
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--- RABBLE wrote:
One practice is at 7AM on a Sunday morning in February??
Who the hell is the crackpot who set up this schedule?
And three straight that weekend on Saturday, Sunday and Monday? Three in a row? At 7AM? My Lord!
What the hell is goin' on up there??
I'll tell you guys, something has got to change this year. I'm losing my patience and cool. Obviously, this schedule 'aint one of them.
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Rabble - you do realize that ARMY is more than just a word on the players' uniforms? These guys will, in fact, join and lead soldiers in THE Army one day. Complaining about early morning practices...practices three days in a row...come on. What time do you think soldiers in THE Army do their physical training? How many days in a row do you think some of our soldiers in Afghanistan are patrolling through the mountains wearing a hundred pounds of gear before they get a shower let alone a day off?
The point of practice is to get the most out of it, so we win some games this year. A coach who does things differently, and loses a lot of games, is usually wrong.
If our rationale is that soldiers do it this or that way, we could reason that WP should practice at 0200 in Nuristan province. I'm not suggesting that we do things with our football team (or any team) the way they do it in the Army. I'm not even suggesting that practice in the mornings is necessarily the right way to do it. I'm just saying that complaining about practicing in the morning and practicing three days in a row sounds a little bit too much like "the sky is falling." Rather than sliding down the slippery slope to practicing at 0200hrs in Nuristan province, imagine the soldier that is already there (and maybe is there on his third deployment) reading Rabble complain about 7am practices three days in a row. God forbid the soldier thinks one of his future leaders is complaining about it... |
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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:06 AM
Re: This is why I am grateful for the Ignore Option
oldgrad74 wrote: I wonder what time Cadets get up in the morning?
Football players get to sleep in so this really ticks them off too.
Let's see if maybe we can complain that there is only one fork per plate for lunch & dinner. How can we expect any of our linemen to gain weight with only one fork!
Practice at 7am - why that is just lazy, lazy coaching. And why is practicing at 7am "lazy" coaching? Do you know what our players can do in the afternoons now that they aren't at practice in the afternoons until after 6pm? They get to study in the afternoons and get AI (additional instruction) from their instructors like the rest of the cadets... Maybe our instructors are the lazy ones because they don't get up early like the coaches to give AI in the mornings to the football players. Oh that's right, the football players would be sleeping in like the rest of the corps if they practiced in the afternoons. |
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:58 PM
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Nothing wrong about practicing 15 days in a row and get spring practice over with as quickly as possible and have the drills at 5AM.
The problem was that crap didn't work last year scheduled around two cycles of gym work at Kimsey. We still faded late due to fatigue in most of our games so what did all that gym work do to the W/L record? It made it worse.
So you would think RE would reacess that schedule and try a different approach.
No, just do the same damn things over again and wind up getting the same damn results.
Geez, don't experiment because it COULD work this time around, right?
WRONG!
We are so intrenched with the same culture, that we can't or won't change anything, even a practice schedule.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:13 PM
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I'm going to be tough with lots of things this year in the program-a lot of things.
I, as a fan, DEMAND improvement. I want to see improvement physically, mentally and in the game of football we play. No excuses for poor play, mistakes or a don't care attitude from anybody.
I am just sick and tired of the BS perpetuated by the reports we get, so full of fluff it would make anbybody sick reading about it. I am tired of the coaches speak with the promises of grandeur, a good record and the continual promise of "we are improving and learning."
Oh yeah? Prove it and get off your butts and just do it. Stop with the flowery stuff that would get the most pessimistic fan thinking we are going 12-0 with all the stuff you get from GAS.
By the time we get to the first game, most fans are so hyped you would think we have a shot at the national championship.
We lose 4 of the first 5 and again we all hit the skids and start to annually moan again.
I 'aint buyin' into that anymore. I want wins and not reasons for losing.
I want to be like a fan who wins once in awhile. I want to feel the joy of winning again.
And if RE doesn't deliver this year, get him the hell out and get somebody else who might give us a chance again.
Am I selfish? You damn straight I am. I want a winner. I DEMAND a winner because I AM a fan who happens to give a damn.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:36 AM
My comments were sarcastic.
Sarcasm my friend - 100% sarcasm quoting others who want to complain about something/anything.
I know football players get up the same time as the rest of the Corps & I think that is 6:15 am (not 100% sure on the time).
But I appreciate your anger vented at me because it is the same feelings I have when I read the complaints I was mocking. Maybe I should use the little face thingies to show I am being sarcastic. No I probably won't.
Last edited 2/13/2013 9:37 AM by oldgrad74
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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:40 PM
Re: My comments were sarcastic.
oldgrad74 wrote: Sarcasm my friend - 100% sarcasm quoting others who want to complain about something/anything.
I know football players get up the same time as the rest of the Corps & I think that is 6:15 am (not 100% sure on the time).
But I appreciate your anger vented at me because it is the same feelings I have when I read the complaints I was mocking. Maybe I should use the little face thingies to show I am being sarcastic. No I probably won't. Re-read your post with my sarcasm glasses on and it reads a lot clearer to me. I'll refrain from using one of the embarassed face thingies... |
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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:07 PM
Re: This is why I am grateful for the Ignore Option
--------------------------------------------- --- FiftiesFB wrote: oldgrad74 wrote: I wonder what time Cadets get up in the morning?
Football players get to sleep in so this really ticks them off too.
Let's see if maybe we can complain that there is only one fork per plate for lunch & dinner. How can we expect any of our linemen to gain weight with only one fork!
Practice at 7am - why that is just lazy, lazy coaching. And why is practicing at 7am "lazy" coaching? Do you know what our players can do in the afternoons now that they aren't at practice in the afternoons until after 6pm? They get to study in the afternoons and get AI (additional instruction) from their instructors like the rest of the cadets... Maybe our instructors are the lazy ones because they don't get up early like the coaches to give AI in the mornings to the football players. Oh that's right, the football players would be sleeping in like the rest of the corps if they practiced in the afternoons. --------------------------------------------- That was the intent and it would be nice if that were what happens. It doesn't. They are getting less sleep and worse grades. "Leave the Artillerymen alone, they are an obstinate lot. . ."
Napoleon Bonaparte |
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Posted: 2/14/2013 10:21 PM
Re: This is why I am grateful for the Ignore Option
--------------------------------------------- --- 3seconddelay wrote: --------------------------------------------- --- FiftiesFB wrote: oldgrad74 wrote: I wonder what time Cadets get up in the morning?
Football players get to sleep in so this really ticks them off too.
Let's see if maybe we can complain that there is only one fork per plate for lunch & dinner. How can we expect any of our linemen to gain weight with only one fork!
Practice at 7am - why that is just lazy, lazy coaching. And why is practicing at 7am "lazy" coaching? Do you know what our players can do in the afternoons now that they aren't at practice in the afternoons until after 6pm? They get to study in the afternoons and get AI (additional instruction) from their instructors like the rest of the cadets... Maybe our instructors are the lazy ones because they don't get up early like the coaches to give AI in the mornings to the football players. Oh that's right, the football players would be sleeping in like the rest of the corps if they practiced in the afternoons. --------------------------------------------- That was the intent and it would be nice if that were what happens. It doesn't. They are getting less sleep and worse grades. --------------------------------------------- Not true on both counts. I doubt you have better info than I do. |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 2:14 PM
Re: This is why I am grateful for the Ignore Option
FiftiesFB wrote:
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oldgrad74 wrote: I wonder what time Cadets get up in the morning?
Football players get to sleep in so this really ticks them off too.
Let's see if maybe we can complain that there is only one fork per plate for lunch & dinner. How can we expect any of our linemen to gain weight with only one fork!
Practice at 7am - why that is just lazy, lazy coaching. And why is practicing at 7am "lazy" coaching? Do you know what our players can do in the afternoons now that they aren't at practice in the afternoons until after 6pm? They get to study in the afternoons and get AI (additional instruction) from their instructors like the rest of the cadets... Maybe our instructors are the lazy ones because they don't get up early like the coaches to give AI in the mornings to the football players. Oh that's right, the football players would be sleeping in like the rest of the corps if they practiced in the afternoons.
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That was the intent and it would be nice if that were what happens. It doesn't. They are getting less sleep and worse grades.
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Not true on both counts. I doubt you have better info than I do. Just the four players I've talked to through the last home game of 2012. As a whole, across the team, I hope both sleep times and grades are improving. "Leave the Artillerymen alone, they are an obstinate lot. . ."
Napoleon Bonaparte |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 2:58 PM
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3seconddelay wrote:
FiftiesFB wrote:
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oldgrad74 wrote: I wonder what time Cadets get up in the morning?
Football players get to sleep in so this really ticks them off too.
Let's see if maybe we can complain that there is only one fork per plate for lunch & dinner. How can we expect any of our linemen to gain weight with only one fork!
Practice at 7am - why that is just lazy, lazy coaching. And why is practicing at 7am "lazy" coaching? Do you know what our players can do in the afternoons now that they aren't at practice in the afternoons until after 6pm? They get to study in the afternoons and get AI (additional instruction) from their instructors like the rest of the cadets... Maybe our instructors are the lazy ones because they don't get up early like the coaches to give AI in the mornings to the football players. Oh that's right, the football players would be sleeping in like the rest of the corps if they practiced in the afternoons.
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That was the intent and it would be nice if that were what happens. It doesn't. They are getting less sleep and worse grades.
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Not true on both counts. I doubt you have better info than I do. Just the four players I've talked to through the last home game of 2012. As a whole, across the team, I hope both sleep times and grades are improving. Changing to the morning practice was a significant event for the Academy not just for the football team. Think about the gymnastics the academic schedulers in the Dean's office had to go through to clear the schedules of the football players in the mornings and fit their classes into the remainder of the academic day. Trust me that the football team and the Academy are monitoring the effects of this change and assessing it going forward. Sleep, grades, health, nutrition, strength and conditioning are all being looked at. |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 4:10 PM
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Changing to the morning practice was a significant event for the Academy not just for the football team. Think about the gymnastics the academic schedulers in the Dean's office had to go through to clear the schedules of the football players in the mornings and fit their classes into the remainder of the academic day. Trust me that the football team and the Academy are monitoring the effects of this change and assessing it going forward. Sleep, grades, health, nutrition, strength and conditioning are all being looked at.
This is the primary indicator that the Dean is "on board". It is obvious that the administration is trying to fix things but the changes being tried are not delivering results. I had high hopes for this change. Maybe one year isn't long enough for it to translate into wins. Does it have to be so complicated and analyzed? Why is it so tough to crack the code? Look at what it takes to compete in Division I, without depending on: 1. Science to stretch every ounce of talent Army players have as far as possible 2. The hearts of the players 3. Luck Benchmark winning D1 programs. Decide what, if any, changes in recruitment, acceptance, USCC regulations, etc. need to be made. If it is decided those levels of changes are not going to happen, then match our level of competitiveness with other divisions and go to the best fit. This will probably destroy the Army-Navy brand but Army is already doing a fine job at that already. "Leave the Artillerymen alone, they are an obstinate lot. . ."
Napoleon Bonaparte
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