In todays column on the Fullbacks from ArmySports.com, it said that Hassin quit the team when he lost confidence in the coaching staff for his fumbling the previous two seasons.
To me that reads that the coaching staff did not coach him NOT to fumble so they gave up on him.
Instead of exhibiting ways to carry the ball, they took the easy way out and benched him. I think they benched him because they had a replacement in both Dixon and Tippitt.
What a way to treat a 1,000 yard rusher on the team of two years ago that produced the only Army winning season in a decade plus.
Bogus in my book . Hassin was made a scapegoat for the shortcomings of the staff to teach the guy and use him in some capacity. They gave up on him so Jared quit.
Personally, I would have done the same damn thing that Jared did.
With the hotshot fullbacks we had this year, we won 2 games. With Jared we won 7 games. That tells me something about this staff which I don't think was so good. Poor teachers of fundamental football. Yeah, I think so.
Their coaching didn't improve Trents fumbling since he first got here and when RE was asked in one interview about all the fumbling and how the staff was going to correct it, RE got pissed off big time.
Man, I don't get that at all.
Either this staff was too lazy to fix the problem that caused us two seasons or they didn't have the smarts to teach a basic, fundamental part of the game.- how the hell to hold onto the ball when hit hard.
You think things like this post season when as a fan, you calm down from a frustrating season.

I'm not sure if it mattered. Dixon is better than Hassin.

The Hassin problem isn't a function of Dixon, who all of a sudden reminds me a lot of Jared Hassin. The problem is he's one of the best athletes on the team and clearly had value but we denied the opportunity for reasons unknown. Speculation has ensued, and I'd hate to think it was something personal for RE.

RABBLE wrote: In todays column on the Fullbacks from ArmySports.com, it said that Hassin quit the team when he lost confidence in the coaching staff for his fumbling the previous two seasons.

You might want to re-read the article.  It does not say that Hassin lost confidence in the staff.

Does anyone really believe that the coaching staff never addressed the fumbling problem? Did they outright lie when they said they have worked on it extensively? Did the players lie when they mentioned they worked the drills?

No matter how talented a player is, many starting roles and even careers where short lived bc of fumbling problems. I have to think it was more than fumbling. A lot of good points above add value to that.

I still stand by my thought that he would have been an excellent defensive player. Either DE or LB. 1,000 yd rusher or not. And, I believe there is something more to his leaving the team especially after I saw his total disinterest in the team and the game (Stoney Brook)while he stood alone on the sideline away from the team. Yet, as we all do, I certainly wish him the best.

I am more concerned IF the staff is clueless as to try to stop the fumble problem then if a player is in their doghouse.

I have to wonder what the staff did or did not do to address the fumble problem. One thing that not even the biggest RE fan here can argue is IF the staff tried to fix the fumble problem they failed badly.

RABBLE wrote:
With the hotshot fullbacks we had this year, we won 2 games. With Jared we won 7 games. That tells me something about this staff which I don't think was so good.

That tells you that correlation equals causation?

Because I'm sure there couldn't be any other variables that might lead to a drop from 7 wins to 2.

I think his point is that Hassin was the best offensive player on a bowl winning team, Army's best squad in 15 years. I don't think his starting role as the fullback is the key to a winning season, but I think somewhere in there a player of that talent shouldn't go to waste, especially when a 2-10 team probably isn't loaded with star players preventing him from being on the field.

To me, Hassin's ability was wasted.

RABBLE wrote: To me, Hassin's ability was wasted.

I agree. With the beating that the FB position takes I never understood why Dixon wasn't spelled a bit more by either Hassin or Tippet. The same with Maples and all of them seemed to wear down.

I loved Hassin's athleticism and never understood the staff not finding out a way to use him. I love Larry Dixon but in 2010, Hassin also caught 12 passes, which for an option team is a decent number for any position but even more so for a fullback. 

He had an ongoing fumbling issue, I get it, but he was a larger athletic player with hands. It's not like this year's team had lots of players with those qualities.

I have mixed feelings.  Quitting is never admirable, but I agree that RE should have used Hassin much more. He was a proven commodity and other schools wanted him coming out of hs. Some guys excell during games and he seemed to be a game day performer.  Yes, he was a fumbling machine, but didnt the other guys out there fumble like nobody's biz as well?  It seemed RE made an example out of him more than the others.

Bottom line.  Hassin's failure is a direct result of RE's failed leadership.

I do not like the fact the JH felt compelled to quit on his brothers.  Is JH so lacking in character to leave his battle buddies mid-season?  Or, is RE's leadership that pathetic?  RE bears the brunt of fault for JH's failure.  Good leaders inspire & motivate their subordinates to greatness.  Bad leaders scapegoat and blame to buy themselves another contract year.

RE failed JH.  RE failed the Army Team.  RE failed the Army Faithful.  RE failed West Point.

Hassin is faster and a better natural runner IMO.

Better catching out of the backfield as well.

That said we were way too late in benching him.

Moose, know you have no use for RE -- but, pretty strong words.  Maybe we don't know the whole picture.  Which one of us attended all the practices that we can say that definitively that its all on RE? We don't know 'cause we weren't there.

I do agree with other posts that a player with his natural abilities went unused -- either catching out of the backfield, strong safety or special teams.  Wasted talent.\

-- And that final point IS on RE!

I still find it amazing that even months later, the rest of the story has yet to emerge. I agree with the others about JH's unused talent, questionable leadership on the part of the head coach, etc. the part I'm left wondering about though is where the kid's attitude was in terms of being a team player. Was he a disruptive presence in the locker room, or was he doing what he was supposed to do, only to get dumped on by the coach(es)?

We've all played on teams with a bad apple; nobody wants or needs that. If that were the case in this situation, I think RE is actually spot on from a leadership perspective by not saying much about it after the fact. Think about it; if RE came out trashing the kid after he quit, the legions of haters on this board would have threatened to drag RE out of his house to tar and feather him in the middle of the night.

In the end, his departure from the team was probably a move made in frustration, and one he'll probably regret a few years down the road.

Beat 'em!

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Moose, know you have no use for RE -- but, pretty strong words.  Maybe we don't know the whole picture.  Which one of us attended all the practices that we can say that definitively that its all on RE? We don't know 'cause we weren't there.

I do agree with other posts that a player with his natural abilities went unused -- either catching out of the backfield, strong safety or special teams.  Wasted talent.\

-- And that final point IS on RE!

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I don't think it's anything amazing--maybe it's just that Hassin and RE's staff are classy enough to let a personal matter remain a personal matter.

Do you ever hear the whole story when coaches suspend or boot a player for "violation of team rules" at WP or at any other school? Nope, because both sides typically prefer to keep those things private.

wp1994 wrote: I still find it amazing that even months later, the rest of the story has yet to emerge. I agree with the others about JH's unused talent, questionable leadership on the part of the head coach, etc. the part I'm left wondering about though is where the kid's attitude was in terms of being a team player. Was he a disruptive presence in the locker room, or was he doing what he was supposed to do, only to get dumped on by the coach(es)?

We've all played on teams with a bad apple; nobody wants or needs that. If that were the case in this situation, I think RE is actually spot on from a leadership perspective by not saying much about it after the fact. Think about it; if RE came out trashing the kid after he quit, the legions of haters on this board would have threatened to drag RE out of his house to tar and feather him in the middle of the night.

In the end, his departure from the team was probably a move made in frustration, and one he'll probably regret a few years down the road.

Beat 'em!

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--- APACHE959 wrote:

Moose, know you have no use for RE -- but, pretty strong words.  Maybe we don't know the whole picture.  Which one of us attended all the practices that we can say that definitively that its all on RE? We don't know 'cause we weren't there.

I do agree with other posts that a player with his natural abilities went unused -- either catching out of the backfield, strong safety or special teams.  Wasted talent.\

-- And that final point IS on RE!

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No excuse for us but as FANatics for any team, we want to know ALL the details because our natural tendencies of curiousity. When we are unable to find out the answers, we sometimes flail out to those who do not give us those juicy tidbits of information that really do no good for anybody.
An example of this is how the Richard King situation and the court on how it was finally settled with that pop icon so to speak.
I don't know. I would like to know because I am interested in knowing the finality of that episode. I know that I won't know and am forced to drop it. That's OK but I still would like to know but it really doesn't matter whether I know or not. Curious? Yes. Necessary to know? No.
Amen.

Hassin fumbles were an issue in his two years as starter. He had two costly ones against AF and Navy in 2011. He was a little beat up physically from 2010 and 2011 playing B back and had back issues. This summer it was clear at that Dixon was better and the staff liked Tippett who was more physical.

Hassin was moved to A back and dropped on the depth chart. To be honest he didn't respond well and battle back to see more PT. Those who mentioned his disinterest on the sidelines saw what others noticed. As far as moving him to defense before his senior year who actually thinks he would have been a better option than Bacon or Combs? That makes no sense