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Posted: 11/10/2012 11:34 AM
Rutgers Helmets
Rutgers has for the second time, made a mockery of their opponent today. The "patriotic uniforms" that are apparently supposed to honor their opponents are wholly for self-promotion and recruiting tools to a lesser extent. I am so tired of the military appreciation day when we go on road trips - this a D-1 football team.
And if anyone thinks the intention is to credit the armed forces, type "Rutgers helmets" into a twitter search to see what people are saying about them. Apparently they are "sick", "dope", and the best.. "awesome" as described by retailer Finish Line in their tweet. Its just a ridiculous decision from the fan-base that recently boo'd Navy's entrance on to the field.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 11:58 AM
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and the Revolutionary War re-enactors firing a cannon in the end zone has further contributed to the gimmick. I mean what are they going for with that one? NE Patriots?
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Posted: 11/10/2012 12:11 PM
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You think they're doing this to mock the armed forces? Get a clue.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 12:18 PM
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No I don't. I think it's for notoriety first and foremost.
Virginia Tech wore their camo uniforms earlier this year. Of course it was for support for wounded warriors, but there are a lot of recruiting pitches behind it and plenty of camo Nike hats and tees that get sold from it.
Last edited 11/10/2012 12:30 PM by keco616
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Posted: 11/10/2012 12:48 PM
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My son and I were talking last night that we don't recall any camo uniforms in any sports (maybe SD Padres) prior to the 2009 (?) Army Navy game with the black shirts and camo helmets. Seems like many football and basketball teams break them out.
To me only looks good and only makes sense on Army.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 1:34 PM
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and the Revolutionary War re-enactors firing a cannon in the end zone has further contributed to the gimmick. I mean what are they going for with that one? NE Patriots?
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Rutgers has hade the same cannon crew for years now, way before they were any good and expanded their stadium. Say what you want about uniform gimmicks, but this one is a long-standing part of the Rutgers game day experience.
Beat 'em!
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Posted: 11/10/2012 6:01 PM
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Of all the things to complain about in today's game, THIS is what you choose? Quit trying to find disrespect when there was none intended. There were plenty of schools in the NE that we played back when I was a cadet that were deliberately offensive to Army, even on our own field (I fondly recall General Scott denying the Yale Band the right to take the field @ WP one time). Perhaps they don't meet your standards, but the sentiment was there. Seriously, you complain about the silver helmets with R/W/B logo? Not any worse than the 'Battlefield Collection' crap the Army Sports & AOG has let us be spammed with over the past week...  |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 6:08 PM
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wp1994 wrote:
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and the Revolutionary War re-enactors firing a cannon in the end zone has further contributed to the gimmick. I mean what are they going for with that one? NE Patriots?
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Rutgers has hade the same cannon crew for years now, way before they were any good and expanded their stadium. Say what you want about uniform gimmicks, but this one is a long-standing part of the Rutgers game day experience.
Beat 'em! The revolutionary war was fought on Rutgers soil... Alexander Hamilton bombarded the British with cannon in New Brunswick on the banks of the Raritan river to prevent them from crossing and to allow Washington's Army to high tail it to Princeton... Numerous Rutgers professors and students fought in the revolutionary war... The cannon crew is from the Middlesex county miltia... Rutgers was renamed Rutgers College from Queen's College in honor of revolutionary war hero and NYC philanthropist Colonel Henry Rutgers... The revolutionary war is very much part of our history...  “It is never too late to become what you might have been” -George Eliot |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 6:36 PM
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I thought the helmets were fine.
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Posted: 11/10/2012 7:51 PM
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keco616 wrote: and the Revolutionary War re-enactors firing a cannon in the end zone has further contributed to the gimmick. I mean what are they going for with that one? NE Patriots? They had that same revolutionary war cannon when I was on the faculty there and they used it every game. I don't know if they've been using it at all home games since they built the new stadium, but it's been around awhile. We've been playing them in the Meadowlands and Yankee Stadium the past few years, so you wouldn't have seen it there. |
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Posted: 11/10/2012 10:29 PM
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glarson65 wrote:
keco616 wrote: and the Revolutionary War re-enactors firing a cannon in the end zone has further contributed to the gimmick. I mean what are they going for with that one? NE Patriots? They had that same revolutionary war cannon when I was on the faculty there and they used it every game. I don't know if they've been using it at all home games since they built the new stadium, but it's been around awhile. We've been playing them in the Meadowlands and Yankee Stadium the past few years, so you wouldn't have seen it there. We've been firing that cannon after scores and end of quarters etc. since at least the 1960s... It's actually one of our oldest FB traditions... I would think you guys would be familiar with it being that Army and Navy are our oldest remaining rivals (since 1891) that still play FBS (all the rest of them are now in the patriot league or ivy league)... Also we've played Army home and home consistently since the 1980s... I would think you'd have seen the cannon crew firing the cannon before... “It is never too late to become what you might have been” -George Eliot
Last edited 11/10/2012 10:30 PM by blitz8ru
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Posted: 11/11/2012 10:40 PM
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I was sitting behind that damn Rutgers cannon. The smoke was drifting to where was sitting. That cannon was mostly smoke and little bang. Sorta like our final score.  |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 3:23 AM
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keco616 wrote: Its just a ridiculous decision from the fan-base that recently boo'd Navy's entrance on to the field. Recently? First of all, it was in September of 2007, over 5 years ago. (Just a little bit has happened since then, so you might want to open a newspaper from time to time.) Secondly, it was a very small group of drunken students (less than 1% of the total fan base attending the game) who were doing the booing, and they were shouted down by the fans around them. The whole story was blown way out of proportion by the press.
Branding an entire school and fan base for this incident is like saying everybody at West Point is a rapist because of the Karley Marquet and Annie Kendzior lawsuits. |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 8:45 AM
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keco616 wrote: No I don't. I think it's for notoriety first and foremost.
Virginia Tech wore their camo uniforms earlier this year. Of course it was for support for wounded warriors, but there are a lot of recruiting pitches behind it and plenty of camo Nike hats and tees that get sold from it. Isn't that the whole reason we went to the Black Knight logo instead of sticking with the Block A and kicking mule? Making money on merchandising? I, for one, appreciate anyone who makes the effort to postively recognize the military. For most, Veterans' Day is just an opportunity to save $50 on a dishwasher at Sears. 
Last edited 11/12/2012 8:47 AM by ArmorDude
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Posted: 11/12/2012 10:40 AM
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Speaking of dishes, etc. I heard the RU helmets described as "old cookware with decals", pretty close....
They were no worse than the mustard yellow, flat finish, buckets we wear these days....
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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:56 AM
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1. Five years is recent, and nobody should boo those Student Athletes ever.
2. I'm not branding the student body just based on that event. With dozens of experiences on the RU campus, I'd have to say I've never seen such a large collection of unruly, violent, and reckless students.
3. Your analogy to West Point Cadets is terrible.
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Posted: 11/12/2012 1:19 PM
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keco616 wrote: 1. Five years is recent, and nobody should boo those Student Athletes ever.
2. I'm not branding the student body just based on that event. With dozens of experiences on the RU campus, I'd have to say I've never seen such a large collection of unruly, violent, and reckless students.
3. Your analogy to West Point Cadets is terrible. I knew this would be your answer. West Point is imperfect, but everybody else should be expected to be perfect. I'm done here. |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 2:17 PM
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mnagy wrote: I thought the helmets were fine. +1 It's for marketing the same way Nike redesins Army & Navy's uniforms for Army & Navy. |
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Posted: 11/12/2012 8:56 PM
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Hey, the RU fans were nice to me this past Saturday. Nice crowd, nice stadium, nice concessions, nice RU band and half time show. Nice experience.
Lousy final score tho.
Since i live about 25 miles from RU stadium, a short but bitter ride home.
These people at the concession stands were ready, willing and able to handle the fans attending the game. It was a well run event. I was impressed. Even the shuttle to the parking area at the RAC was well handled, smooth , quick, with no hitches.
WP could take a page out of the Rutgers experience. We could use a bit of fine tuning at Michie on game day.
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Posted: 11/12/2012 11:58 PM
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Not to throw gas on this fire, but the students (however many/few of them there were) booing isn't the only instance of "Service Academy disrespect" in the recent annals of Rutgers football history.
From John Feinstein:
"The first time Schiano took a team to play at Navy he was sent—as is customary—a pre-game itinerary. Navy’s is a little different than most schools because the Brigade of Midshipmen marches on before the game, which means the teams (BOTH teams) need to leave the field a few minutes earlier than normal. Coaches are always alerted to this and know it is part of playing a game at Navy. Schiano not only objected, he kept his team on the field while the brigade began its march-on. Then he insisted after the game he hadn’t been informed about the march-on. Sorry Rutgers folks, that just wasn’t the case."
(http://www.feinsteinonthebrink.com/index.php?id=6 22952369700803130)
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