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Army-Air Force Predictions.....

Posted: 11/2/2012 9:43 AM

Army-Air Force Predictions..... 


I'd like to see a win but I doubt it.... Just for the heck of it, I'll say a little more. I think that there is another win in this team this year. I just don't think it will be against AF...

Both teams have something to play for, AF wants to beat us and then root like hell for us to beat Navy. We still have the CIC trophy to play for starting Sat. That should be all the incentive this team needs to play their best game of the season....

Last edited 11/2/2012 12:41 PM by barrynGA

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Posted: 11/2/2012 11:19 AM

If you think we have a chance, don't read this... 


Not a prediction - just how it will go...

We will lose and lose convincingly.  It will be demoralizing to watch and we will turn the ball over 4 times in route to a 42 - 3 loss.  It will only be close until Air Force gets their hands on the ball for the first time.  They will score on all but one of their first half possessions and go in at half time up by 28.  In the second half we will just quit and Air Force will play us to a stand still with their back ups after scoring on a defensive touchdown that will likely be a fumble in the red zone that someone on their team will scoop and run 80+ yards for a score (as we won't have anyone close to being fast enough to catch even their DLs). 

I will turn the game off at half time and curse. 

I hope that I am wrong, but I am not.  I have seen too many of these games to get my hopes up.  We suck and suck so bad that offends me to watch it.  But I will.  At least until half time. 

Damn it!banghead
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Posted: 11/2/2012 11:43 AM

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No reason not to expect more of the same. With one of the worst defenses in post-war college football history, Troy Calhoun's offense should be prepared for the walk-through scrimmage they will see out there. On offense, Army should expect their rudimentary offense as easy to prepare for, maybe score two TDs in garbage time. When our bread and butter isn't working, it flat out doesn't work. It is quite clear that the key to decimating Army is 1. showing up, but also 2. keying the fullback. In the games where defenses have stacked the nose and took away the FB, we've been poor offensively. Ball St, SDSU, and Stony Point all figured it out.

Air Force 51
Army 17

I fully expect the scoreboard to be a lie at half time and to keep on fighting.

Last edited 11/2/2012 11:45 AM by keco616

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Posted: 11/2/2012 11:55 AM

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What the hell.....


Army 37
Air Force 35

No sense in being pessimistic at this point. Somebody needs to keep the faith.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 12:09 PM

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Air Force   77
Army        21


No Defense....
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Posted: 11/2/2012 1:18 PM

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Kick some tail Knights Take them for a walk of shame  Take those Soft Airforce for a Run like we used to do at Fort Benning. A little shuffle and they are soft we would litter the way with Air Force trash. Huuuaaah! Pick your chins up!!!

Last edited 11/2/2012 1:23 PM by centjustadawg81

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Posted: 11/2/2012 1:32 PM

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I'm predicting a closer game than most on this board, for the simple reason that the Army D will not be facing 300+ pounders for once. However, Army is snakebit against AF and will (again) lose to the Zooms because they are mentally fragile. Army will (again) commit some sort of blunder at a crucial moment and give up the decisive score and/or turnover. My TV will (again) absorb considerable verbal abuse.

AF 35 Army 31

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Posted: 11/2/2012 3:53 PM

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Ithurtstowatch wrote: Not a prediction - just how it will go...in route to a 42 - 3 loss. 


Really?! No prediction?!

“For he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother…and gentlemen in England now abed shall think themselves acursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap…”Henry V (W. Shakespeare)

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Posted: 11/2/2012 4:22 PM

Tired of my negativity and others, great upset A 34, AF 31. 


The offense is its sharpest all season, the much-maligned D (oops, by me) hangs in there and the specials,contribute too. Of course this pick represents a triumph of the heart over the head, but I dunno, what the hell.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 4:34 PM

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While I am tempted to pick Army, I'm afraid I'll have to agree with GoCups and go with us going down 35-31. Here are my thoughts:

* Both Ds suck, with each giving up 200+ yards/game on the ground and 400+ total yards/game

* Both Os have a tough time hanging on to the ball and both Ds getting the ball -- with the result being a negative turnover marging for both teams

* Air Force has not played well on the road this year, with two of their three losses coming on the road. One of those loses was to 1-8 UNLV.

* Strength of Schedule: Army -- our first eight opponents are a combined 42-27, while AF’s first eight are 25-42 (they had a one-point win over 1-7 Wyoming).

* Difference Maker: AF is able to throw the ball effectively, averaging over 114 yards/game. Additionally, they are ranked first nationally in both passing efficiency (186.71) and sacks allowed (0).

“For he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother…and gentlemen in England now abed shall think themselves acursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap…”Henry V (W. Shakespeare)

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Posted: 11/2/2012 11:50 PM

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While the history is against Army I like an upset. Army 38-31. Army may have trouble defensively keeping Air Force's running game in check. However last year Army held the Falcons to only 179 rushing yards which was well below their season average. The Black Knights played a 5-2 look most of the game and allowed just 3.3 yards per carry.

Like USMA84 says Air Force's defense isn't very good against the run. Having a healthy Trent Steelman ready to play helps Army. Last year they ran the ball down the Falcons throat in the first half till Air Force realized that replacement QB Max Jenkins didn't have the speed to hurt them and adjusted. While Air Force did a nice job defending against Nevada last game the week before they allowed 409 rushing yards to New Mexico. Army should have won last year's game. Air Force is the better team but I have a feeling the Black Knights pull an upset at home. Army 38-31.
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Posted: 11/3/2012 3:08 AM

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This will probably turn out to be a very close game. I like Army to win just to make the Army-Navy game a lot more interesting with the C-I-C given outright to the winner.

Army 31
AF 28
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Posted: 11/3/2012 10:20 AM

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Randy Cross calls us Navy before the middle of the first quarter.
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Posted: 11/3/2012 10:58 AM

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CPT Obvious says turn-overs will rule the day.  If we can be +2 we (Army) will win, if AF is even or +1 they will win.

The Players
In the games that I have watched, it appears to me that AF has more fight man-for-man than Army does, same for Navy.  That is what won the games for each against Army last year -- they just are psychologically tougher and have faith they will beat Army.  We are the fragile child that folds at the first hint of adversity.

The Coaches
Calhoun and his staff seem to be more creative and inspirational on both sides of the ball.  AF did a great job against Michigan earlier in the year -- extremely well coached game.  Also, it seems like they adapt better during the game than Army ever has.  They also have better depth and their players are ready to come in and contribute rather than clamming-up as Army's subs seem to often do.  Air Force seems to be able to change it's pace and the coaches recognize momentum.  To me, it appears that Army's offense has been much more effective when they are forced to play up-tempo.  You never see us deviate from the card system and delayed snaps until we are two touchdowns behind with 6 minutes to play.  We ought to be able to change tempo from time-to-tiime to see what happens . . . we might be surprised.

The Programs
Under Barry, our excuse was we were playing the wrong style offense.  With Ross, our excuse was he was too old, had the deer in the headlights look too many times, was emotionally crushed at times.  Brock, out of his element as a head coach.  Now that we are playing the right offense, our coach seems to keep an even keel, and has been a successful D1 coach, nothing seems to have improved.  Our problems are much bigger than coaching, and we are not even close to getting them addressed.

Today however Army plays with passion, responds when the pressure is on, and controlled but inspired through-out the game.  Army 38 - AF 35.

Black Gray & Gold Forever
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Posted: 11/4/2012 9:45 AM

20 pt WIN 


No one predicted a 20 pt win....why not?

The optimists were pretty close in their predictions of O scoring 35+ Points.

I don't think anyone saw the D rise up and stuff the AF offense today.

Great work boys.....ARMY 41- AF 21......just saying it makes me smile.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 4:23 PM

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jimbearnj wrote: While the history is against Army I like an upset. Army 38-31. Army may have trouble defensively keeping Air Force's running game in check. However last year Army held the Falcons to only 179 rushing yards which was well below their season average. The Black Knights played a 5-2 look most of the game and allowed just 3.3 yards per carry.

Like USMA84 says Air Force's defense isn't very good against the run. Having a healthy Trent Steelman ready to play helps Army. Last year they ran the ball down the Falcons throat in the first half till Air Force realized that replacement QB Max Jenkins didn't have the speed to hurt them and adjusted. While Air Force did a nice job defending against Nevada last game the week before they allowed 409 rushing yards to New Mexico. Army should have won last year's game. Air Force is the better team but I have a feeling the Black Knights pull an upset at home. Army 38-31.

A lot closer to the actual outcome than most and based on good recall of last year's contest.  As it turned out, we did an even better job of stopping the AF running game this year than last, and Steelman made a big difference on crucial plays as you predicted.  I always thought that Steelman would not have left room for the bad call on that TD that wasn't a TD last year.  It was more than just that 4th down plunge, but also the play before that that kept us from going up 21-0.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 4:25 PM

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How perceptive!!
keco616 wrote: No reason not to expect more of the same. With one of the worst defenses in post-war college football history, Troy Calhoun's offense should be prepared for the walk-through scrimmage they will see out there. On offense, Army should expect their rudimentary offense as easy to prepare for, maybe score two TDs in garbage time. When our bread and butter isn't working, it flat out doesn't work. It is quite clear that the key to decimating Army is 1. showing up, but also 2. keying the fullback. In the games where defenses have stacked the nose and took away the FB, we've been poor offensively. Ball St, SDSU, and Stony Point all figured it out.

Air Force 51
Army 17

I fully expect the scoreboard to be a lie at half time and to keep on fighting.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 7:55 PM

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I'm sure you picked us to win, moving your prediction record to 2-7 on the year.... You should bet your computer on Army to beat Rutgers.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 8:08 PM

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If I may inject a little levity here.

To be fair, Keco did say that the key to decimating Army begins with showing up, and Air Force all but admitted that they failed to do so.

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