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Postgame: Air Force loses to #23 CU Review/Stats/Video and

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Posted: 11/26/2012 1:14 PM

Postgame: Air Force loses to #23 CU Review/Stats/Video and 


first look at Jackson State............Rick '77

Air Force loses to #23 Colorado 74-89
(Scroll for Stats/Newslinks/Fan Perspective)

Air Force goes into the Coors Event Center in Boulder, Colorado and silences the crowd for 30 minutes of play before succumbing to the Buffs by 15 at the buzzer. In a game that Air Force played well for a large potion of the game, the Falcons faltered and could not break the size barrier in the lane and thus were unable to penetrate to score and/or to rebound on the glass.

For the first two thirds of the game Air Force did what it wanted to do to try to win the upset over CU. Key stats say that Air Force was definately in this game. Overall the Falcons shot 45% FG, 40% 3pt, had 7 steals while only having 6 turnovers for the 40 minutes of the game versus a very physical CU team. At the halftime it was even better for the Falcons although they went to the lockerroom down by two: 50% FG, 57% 8-14 3pt shots and 75% FT shooting. Very good. But in the second half of the game CU really tightened down, not allowing AF to penetrate in the lane thus forcing less desireable shots from the arc where AF was reduced to 4-16 25% 3pt shooting. Look closely at those numbers where Air Force had half, 30 of their 60 FG's, taken from 3 point range. In post game comments, head coach Dave Pilipovich said the team relied too much on the long range shot and did not force it inside more often to either get the shot or to go inside-out to bring defenders in thus getting a better look out. It often appeared to me that, in the second half, we often forced shots earlier in the clock versus trying to get a better shot. Give credit where credit is due, CU played tough defense throughout this game.

Let's look at two glaring areas that we know should be discussed. First is rebounding. Ugly is a word I tried to teach my kids not to use, but 'ugly' was the best way to describe CU getting 45 (14 offensive) to Air Force's 17 (4 offensive) rebounds. Air Force lost by 15 and CU had 18 2nd chance points compared to our 4 2nd chance points. The Buffs just aggressively went for the ball on both ends. We tried but did not compete on the boards. This must progress before the heart of MWC play. AF shot 75% FT's in the first half...I should be happy with that. But in the second half only 5-10 (and a few were first half of 1-1's). CU had 14 more points from the line on 22-28 75% FT shooting. Did I say we lost by 15?

An aside here. I am an Air Force homer wearing and bleeding 'Blue'. I know it's a home game for Colorado. Here's the rub: Air Force called for 21 PF's and CU for 14 PF's, this is with the Falcons running through the lane time and time again with blocking and holding by CU but no calls. AF manhandled and outrebounding by a superior rebounding team but 'no' over the back calls on CU and there were many. Pac-12 referees with a #23 ranked Pac-12 team. AF has to play no matter who ref's the game but it did not help the final outcome.

Back to the game. Air Force shocked many of the CU fans throughout the game. We shot the ball very well and that kept us in the game. In postgame comments from CU fans they were suprised by the uptempo we used to push the ball but then get into our offense. CU responded well but we had our opportunities. Great play by starters Mike Lyons (20pts, 4 assts, 3 rebs, 3 steals) but he also had 4 TO's out of 6 for the team as he tried to make it happen at times in a team high 37minutes of play. Todd Fletcher continued to impress with a career high 18pts with 3 assists and no turnovers in 34minutes of play. Taylor had a solid 8pts in 24 mins but got into foul trouble battling with the bigs. Fitz is still not scoring (3pts) but 5 rebounds and good defensive play.

We continue to get strong support off the bench with 19 points. Top play was from DeLovell Earls and Max Yon both with 7 points each. In only 10mins DeLovell had 4 rebounds. Our backup 'big's by committee' gave good minutes defensively but only produced 3pts and 1 rebound, we must get more from them.

Air Force had a plan but was unable to continue it for 40 minutes of play. This CU team will make noise in the Pac-12 and gave Air Force a good look at what the top MWC teams will bring to conference play. I think this was a good learning game for the Falcons who face Jackson State (0-2) on Wedneday and then Wichita St (6-0) on Sunday in the MWC vs MVC Challenge.

Here are stats from the game then a similar writeup from the Colorado Forum Fan's perspective on the game:

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Air Force Falcons STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Mike Fitzgerald, F

32

1-4

1-2

0-0

2

5

1

2

0

1

2

3

taylor broekhuis, c

24

3-4

1-2

1-2

0

3

0

1

0

0

4

8

todd fletcher, g

36

7-12

4-7

0-0

0

1

3

1

0

0

2

18

michael lyons, g

37

7-18

2-8

4-4

1

3

4

3

0

4

4

20

kyle green, g

21

1-3

1-2

3-5

0

0

1

0

0

0

1

6

bench

min

fgm-a

3pm-a

ftm-a

oreb

reb

ast

stl

blk

to

pf

pts

chase kammerer, f

2

0-2

0-0

0-0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

ethan michael, f

2

0-0

0-0

0-0

0

0

0

0

0

0

1

0

marek olesinski, f

11

1-3

1-2

0-0

0

1

0

0

1

0

3

3

kamryn williams, f

3

0-0

0-0

0-0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

delovell earls, f

10

3-4

1-2

0-3

1

4

0

0

0

0

1

7

max yon, g

8

3-6

1-2

0-0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

7

t coggins

6

0-1

0-1

0-0

0

0

1

0

0

0

0

0

c michael

8

1-3

0-2

0-0

0

0

1

0

0

1

3

2

totals

fgm-a

3pm-a

ftm-a

oreb

reb

ast

stl

blk

to

pf

pts

27-60

12-30

8-14

4

17

11

7

1

6

21

74

45.0%

40.0%

57.1%

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colorado buffaloes starters min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a oreb reb ast stl blk to pf pts

andre roberson, f

30

8-11

0-1

2-3

4

13

3

2

2

2

2

18

j scott

31

6-12

0-0

8-10

4

7

1

1

1

0

1

20

sabatino chen, g

26

0-0

0-0

2-2

2

3

0

0

0

1

1

2

askia booker, g

32

5-13

1-4

4-5

2

7

5

1

0

3

3

15

spencer dinwiddie, g

31

4-4

3-3

4-6

1

7

2

0

0

5

2

15

bench

min

fgm-a

3pm-a

ftm-a

oreb

reb

ast

stl

blk

to

pf

pts

jeremy adams, g

10

0-0

0-0

2-2

0

1

0

0

0

1

0

2

shane harris-tunks, f-c

9

1-3

0-0

0-0

1

2

0

0

0

1

0

2

x johnson

10

3-4

1-2

0-0

0

1

0

0

0

1

4

7

e stalzer

12

2-3

2-3

0-0

0

1

0

0

0

1

1

6

x talton

9

1-3

0-0

0-0

0

3

0

0

0

0

0

2

totals

fgm-a

3pm-a

ftm-a

oreb

reb

ast

stl

blk

to

pf

pts

30-53

7-13

22-28

14

45

11

4

3

15

14

89

56.6%

53.8%

78.6%

 
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26 november 2012 New: AF loses to #23 CU, 1st look Jackson St, Women lose to Army, host Navy, MWC scores

RicksFalconReview: Postgame Air Force loses to Colorado
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Falcons' gritty effort not enough against talented Buffs
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CU Buffs inproved to 5-0 with win over AF 

 First look:

Jackson State loses to Tulsa Jackson St vs Tulsa Recap Stats

MWC

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James helps No. 8 Georgia beat New Mexico 72-42
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Ring Them BellsBy Michael Krumholtz

The noises came as sudden as they left. Air Force’s first half assault kept taking a sold-out Coors Events Center crowd back into the silence. But eventually the roars flooded the arena as the Buffs pulled away 89-74 from the Falcons.

In the first period, the nets were singing swooshes. Whenever CU made a shot, a solid Air Force squad answered the ring to the tune of eight three-pointers.

With the No. 23 ranking hanging over their heads, the Buffs withheld the pressure of their first ranking in the Tad Boyle era. Now they’re 5-0 for the first time since 1989, before anyone on the roster was born."I'm not going to ignore it,” Boyle told CUbuffs.com after the win. “I'm happy for our program and our fans. We have to understand how we got there, and what we have to do to stay there.”

Air Force’s five seniors looked like they could spoil CU’s return home after last week’s championship at the Charleston Classic. At the half, the Buffs held a slim 41-39 lead. Then they brought the Falcons back down to earth, limiting them to 25 percent shooting and grounding their long-range spectacle.

Boyle’s ever-nasty defensive scheme allowed a single layup in the first half, helping to calm coach’s nerves just a bit (pun avoided).

"I felt pretty nervous as a coach,” Boyle said. “Air Force is a good team, well coached, well disciplined. We did a great job in the first half taking away their lay ups…(But) you have to pick your poison against Air Force because it’s hard to take the ball away.”......Josh Scott combined for 38 points and 20 rebounds, imposing themselves down low on the smaller Falcon frontcourt. It turned out to be a memorable night for the freshman from Colorado Springs, who finished with career bests in points, rebounds, and made field goals.

“I just feel like it felt like any other night,” Scott said. “I was just playing my game. I have never played against a team that could shoot this well before so I was kind of in shock. Coming from Colorado, you don't see that very often, so, I was just playing really."

The large-bodied and athletic Buffs continued their brilliant interior defense. In the first half, Air Force didn’t have a point in the paint with its set offense. As a team, the Buffs more than doubled the opposition’s rebounding effort, getting a number of vital second chances on the offensive glass to tire Air Force.

"Rebounding was a big factor,” Roberson said. “It takes away their possessions and second chance points. We killed them on the boards."......

GO FALCONS

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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:01 PM

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hoops.gifThe Falcons played very well against a much more talented and athletic team who I think can win the PAC 12. We got outmuscled under the basket but this is primarily due to our 6'4" to 6'6" skinny guys getting pushed around by 6'8" to 7' bigger and stronger guys. Often times our guys were in position to rebound but were literally knocked out of the way by CU's bigs. No harm, no foul. Welcome to PAC 12 basketball. And the PAC 12 refs certainly did not give us any breaks. But that was expected on CU's home court in front of an enthusiastic just shy of a packed house crowd. And the final minutes of the game saw CU getting their shots or marching endlessly to the foul line to add to their winning point total. Converserly, our free throw shooting continues to be our albatross. One of the players is something like 3 for 24 over the past two seasons. He continually throws up no hopers. Guess who gets fouled in crunch times if he is on the floor. And we continue to play a big who absolutely brings us nothing when he is on the floor. Yes, I know he hustles and plays with desire but we have much more talent on the bench who can help us more. We need brother Hammonds back on the team soonest to help reduce or eliminate this frustrating dilemma. Othar than that, the guys played impressively against a Top 25 opponent which should bode well when we go to the Pit, UNLV, and SDSU venues. GO Falcons!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 2:20 PM

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Falconfanatic...with all due respect I disagree with your assessment of our 'big'.  He is there, his potential is there.  He was in foul trouble early this game but still was 3-4 FG  1-2 3pt 1-2 FT.  His position in our offense as a big doesn't always have him in the lane therefore he may not be the biggest rebounder on either end of the court.  He is second on the team in rebounding at 4.8 per game in 27mpg vs our leader who gets 5.0 per game in 31mpg.  He's 2nd in points at 12.8ppg behind Mike Lyons.  I believe if he stays out of foul trouble he gives us much this year. 

Bad news is right now our backups are NOT giving us any points off the bench...Taylor IS!

Again, with all due respect.

Reference Justing, I cannot wait to get him back on the court and hope he does well, has finals posted and can play in the Cal Riverside and Florida games.  His energy underneath will help from the forward position, but he won't play the five.

See ya Wed night!

GO FALCONS

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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:10 PM

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I'm sure if some of the bench big see more minutes comparable to whose on the floor I'm sure stats would be much better. I'm biased and will stay out of this one.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 3:17 PM

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And I'm referring to the 4 position. The 5 spends to much time on the perimeter when he should be on the block. Basketball is an inside out game. We need more touches in the post. Not falling in love with a center who can shoot the three. I'll side with falcon on this one. 45 to 17 rebounding difference. Like ICT said UGLY!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 4:49 PM

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jblezzy, I know where you are coming from (and its an 'L' not an 'I').  Point is, in our and any Princeton offense, when we have the ball, the 5 is very synonomis with the 4 as was your point.  We do not have or keep a big man down low centered at the bottom of the lane.  All transition there on offense but that's just the way it is.

Agree 100% on the need for the bigs to produce and more minutes.  Double edge sword here and I'd like your thoughts.  Bigs off the bench (as a group) are averaging about 14 minutes per game.  I like how coach is getting Taylor off the floor but often times it's also do to foul trouble or matching up with whatever big is in for the opponent.  In game two Olesinski had 7 points in 9 minutes.  But the fact is they are not scoring, rebounding, etc. True, more longer and sustained minutes might help but by that time it's time for Taylor to come back in.  I think more production would mean more minutes.  Good to see Ethan in early both of these last two games.

On defense, bigs are a different thing.  With the matchup zone (hybrid zone/man-to-man)they do float and are not always under the basket....you might even see them transition up to the FT line then back down.  But the DO need to become more of a force underneath and deny the second chance shot...period....dot.

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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:10 PM

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With regards to Taylor he needs to be on the floor. Especially for his beef. I understand he's going with were the offense has him. I'd like to see him on the block more is all. I'd also like to see ethan at the 4 with the first team. For the size and production hell bring to the position. I was reading the gazzete and they said the white team beats the blue team 8 of 10 times in practice is this a true statement?
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:35 PM

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A little bit of an exaggeration from what I have seen.....but the point is that is why the bench is stronger.  We have seen what Max Yon, Cam Michael (Fr.), DeLovell Earls and Tre' Coggins can do and that is why they are getting time on the floor.....now they need to provide consisitency in points.  Max in particular also has to control his emotions. 

Reference Ethan at the 4....I would like to see that also but also need him to shoot better from the outside for our offense.  With that said, Fitz (who is play such good defense + hustle + rebounds) needs to pick up his shooting also.

I really belive we are getting stronger each game and this OOC schedule IS getting us ready for MWC.

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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:46 PM

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Agree. There some big guys in conference this year. And I understand shooting. But if they don't establish a post presence were gonna be a live by the three die by the three team.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:16 AM

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falconfanatic1 wrote: hoops.gifOften times our guys were in position to rebound but were literally knocked out of the way by CU's bigs. No harm, no foul. Welcome to PAC 12 basketball. And the PAC 12 refs certainly did not give us any breaks. But that was expected on CU's home court in front of an enthusiastic just shy of a packed house crowd.

FF, Totally agree with your statement.  But the Falcons never get those kind of calls, even at home with MWC refs (don't get me started on MWC refs!!).  You have to earn the right to get those calls, and the Falcons' record of the last three years doesn't support any respect from the refrees. They are going to have to earn it.  Sunday would be a good time to take that first step. 

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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:37 AM

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hoops.gifLTC: My big comment wasn't referring to our starter big who is probably the most improved player on our team this year. He is playing consistently good basketball game in and game out. Nor was my comment directed at the Sophomore bigs who both should get more playing time in my opinion.

EagleDriver: You're spot on regarding the refs. The players must dictate the game results. Don't let the refs determine otherwise.

Noticed in the paper this morning that SDSU, UNLV, and NM are in the Top 25 rankings with CSU also receiving votes. It's going to be a fun season.

GO FALCONS! Beat Jackson State.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:41 AM

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ltcpilot wrote: Falconfanatic...with all due respect I disagree with your assessment of our 'big'.  He is there, his potential is there.  He was in foul trouble early this game but still was 3-4 FG  1-2 3pt 1-2 FT.  His position in our offense as a big doesn't always have him in the lane therefore he may not be the biggest rebounder on either end of the court.  He is second on the team in rebounding at 4.8 per game in 27mpg vs our leader who gets 5.0 per game in 31mpg.  He's 2nd in points at 12.8ppg behind Mike Lyons.  I believe if he stays out of foul trouble he gives us much this year. 

LTC,

FF is not talking about Taylor B. 

In my opinion, Taylor played his best game defensively against a big time team in his four years as a Falcon.  Josh Scott is the real deal, and Harris-Tunks his 6'11" - 250# backup, while not the same player as Scott, was more than capable while on the floor.  Taylor did a great job banging with those guys and the Colorado wings who were crashing the boards on every missed shot.

My only comment about Taylor's game Sunday, was that he needed to take a couple of threes in the first half to draw the other bigs out.  He's 6-9 from three this year.  His shot looks good, he needs to shoot it when he's open at the top of the key or on the wings.

I agree that the rest of the bigs need to be more productive.  The "Big O" was 1-2 from three, with both shots taken in the second half.  The same would be true when he is in game in the first half.  If he has a good look at a three, he needs to take it (and make it since he's only 2-7 for the year, but he did shoot 40% from three at the P-School).  However, The "Big O" was outmatched on the defensive end by both Scott and Harris-Tunks.  He was battling, but he was just over matched.  Experience and 10 more pounds will take care of that.

Chase only played two minutes, so he didn't get much of a chance to bring anything to the fight.  However, on the offensive end, he is not a threat to score and that puts more pressure on the other four guys on the floor.  I like Ethan's energy.  He plays matchup really well.  I think we'll see more of him and his "wide" body as the season goes on.

DeLovell continues to impress me.  Even though he's only 6'5", he throws that 220#s around pretty effectively on the defensive end and he knows how to get a rebound.  10 points from him on Sunday was great, but he's got to figure out why he can't make a free throw.

All that said, I still like the mix of "bigs" that we have on the team.  I think the Falcons will continue to get better play off the bench at the 5 as the season continues.

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Posted: 11/27/2012 7:43 AM

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Fanatic I know who you are talking about and do agree

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Posted: 11/27/2012 8:10 AM

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OK, now that I've plowed through everyone's comments on the game Sunday, here are a couple of additional observations.

As pointed out, the Falcons gave up 46 rebounds (15 offensive) and 18 second chance points. What that translated to was Colorado scoring on 40 of 63 trips down the floor (not possessions, which add in the offensive rebounds). Ball game. FYI, the Falcons scored points on 30 of 62 trips down the floor for the game which is very good, unless the other team scores 40 times on an equal number of trips down the floor.

Part of the Falcons rebounding problem is not accounting for all the bodies when they are playing 2-3 or matchup. The Falcons are going to have to figure out a way to find the extra guys coming in from the wings and down the lane.

Finally, the Falcons looked a half step slow on defense when rotating to the ball, especially when the pass went to Booker on the wing. Booker would get the ball, make a fake on a Falcon wing rotating to the ball to keep his momentum going in one direction, then would drive around him into the lane and breaking down the defense. The result, a foul, dish or pass for an open three. The Falcons need to know where the key guys on the other team are and not lose track of them as the play goes on.

The Falcons played 34 minutes of solid basketball. However, the fast pace of the game in the first half took its toll in the second half. They were down 2 at 10:44 in the second half, but in the next five minutes Colorado increased the lead to 14 at 5:19. In that stretch, the Falcons looked like they were wilting, and the Buffs got stronger sensing the Falcons were vulnerable. The Falcons have to get that same kind of killer instinct. They were playing great in the first half. They need to develop the mentality that in a game like Sunday where they are double digit road dogs, that they can pull the upset, then make it happen. I think they can do it. I hope they do.

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