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Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures
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Posted: 09/26/2012 7:03 AM

Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

What will Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens get in arbitration?

It may be hard to keep both of them.  Karstens is probably the one on the bubble.

Of the 8 seasons Andy Van Slyke played with the Pirates, only 3 of them could be considered better than Jones' 2012 (not counting defense).

Last edited 09/26/2012 7:07 AM by Sangue
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Posted: 09/26/2012 7:26 AM

Re: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

I think Jones is a lock to come back at this point.

Karstens... not so sure. While he has been ok in the rotation, he seems like he is constantly injured and with Locke, McPhearson, and Cole by mid season all seeming ready for a chance, I am not sure how much it makes sense to keep Karstens who is injury prone at an inflated salary.

Would rather use the money elsewhere like at Catcher.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 7:27 AM

RE: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

Of course Defense was huge considering the position he played! I hope they can keep both, would love to see Jones as a super sub getting time at first and in right.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 7:41 AM

RE: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

Much as I like Karstens, and as underrated as he is, and as effective as he has been for us when healthy---he's not healthy very often.  I would be in favor of bringing him back as a sixth starter-long man-insurance policy: a guy you can turn to who can be counted on to give you all that he has, every time out, with a determined professional effort.  Just not someone who can take a regular turn in your rotation all season long.  I'd love to have him to plug into the rotation for a few weeks or a couple of months in the event, say, that Cole has to go back to the minors for more seasoning, or Morton is slow to come back from his surgery, or one of the other young arms flames out.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 9:30 AM

RE: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

On the arbitration scale it usually goes 40/60/80 percentage wise of the players value for 3 year arbitration players and 20/40/60/80 for super two players.

With those numbers in mind Jones will probably get 4.5 million and Karstens around 5 million.

I don't see them bringing Karstens back at that number but Jeff is a pretty smart guy and has in the past been willing to listen to common sense and understands his worth. I can see him agreeing to a deal for 3.5 million before arbitration is an issue.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 6:46 PM

RE: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

From bucdugout.com.

Yep that pretty much sums it up.
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Posted: 09/27/2012 6:26 AM

RE: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 


He looks like Steve o from jackass.
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--- Sangue wrote:

From bucdugout.com.

Yep that pretty much sums it up.



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Posted: 09/27/2012 8:32 AM

RE: Garrett Jones and Jeff Karstens Arbitration Figures 

Based on what I've seen from these last 2 months, I'd bring back Karstens.  Hopefully at a cheaper price, but I wouldn't be upset if they gave him the full arbitration number.  I haven't seen anything from any pitcher outside of Wandy in the last 2.5 months that tells me that they should definitely be starting next April.  Obviously Burnett is going to be here and starting, but if there were no contracts or names, just perfomance evaluations since July 1st, we'd only have 1 guy who we could say for sure that would be a starter next year.
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