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Who Should Be The Pirates Right Fielder?

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Posted: 08/19/2014 1:27 PM

Who Should Be The Pirates Right Fielder? 


Travis Snider has been better than Gregory Polanco this year.  Obviously, you don't want to sit Polanco and have a young player with his talent watching games for very long.  However, if both players play continue as it has, there could be a case for Polanco returning to AAA and Snider starting in RF to start next year's season.

While this may sound extreme, the Pirates need Polanco's first five years to be good/great years.  He won't help us much if his first five years are like Jason Heyward's.

Last edited 08/19/2014 1:29 PM by Sangue

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Posted: 08/19/2014 2:07 PM

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If Snider continues his play through the rest of the season, I'd stick him at 1B full time next year.  Considering how cheap our FO is, I almost expect something like that to happen.
"I originally said he would get fired in mid-May after a poor start, but honestly, he might not make it to May at this rate." A 'professional' opinion of Manager of the Year Clint Hurdle 4/8/13
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Posted: 08/19/2014 4:15 PM

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Well, who knows, Snyder has some decent athletic ability, is putting him at first base next year all that outrageous of an idea?

They have to do something eventually.
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Posted: 08/19/2014 5:13 PM

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xlopjoe wrote: Well, who knows, Snyder has some decent athletic ability, is putting him at first base next year all that outrageous of an idea?

They have to do something eventually.
Snider did pitch an inning this year and struck out Votto. I would not be surprised to see Snider penciled in as the the #3 starter or the Closer for next season as well. He is pretty cheap and it would allow the FO financial flexibility to sign players in the future.
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Posted: 08/19/2014 6:35 PM

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This place is losing its mind because people had unrealistic expectations. Polanco is the right fielder and will be for a long time.
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Posted: 08/19/2014 9:08 PM

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Milfman wrote: This place is losing its mind because people had unrealistic expectations. Polanco is the right fielder and will be for a long time.
Personal attacks aside, I think its a reasonable debate.  Clearly Snider has taken a leap forward this year.  You'd have to send Tabata to Altoona (so his negativity does not affect Polanco) but it might make sense for Polanco to get some more seasoning at AAA next year - as he is only 22.  Polanco must be performing at a high level while his clock is burning.  His first 4.5 years are all that really matter to the Pirates - then again, if you put $25 million in front of him now for 7 years he would have to think long and hard about it.

Snider looks like he might be the next Brandon Moss.
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Posted: 08/19/2014 9:45 PM

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Snyder has a role as the 4 th of and pinch hitter but to think he will be starting next season instead of a healthy Polanco is crazy. Everyone was upset cause Polanco was in indy half a season even though the pirates were telling us he ain't ready.



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Posted: 08/20/2014 10:46 AM

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Lets just look at the stats when it was Marte, Cutch, and Polonco together in the field batting 1,2,3. I want to see that combo together for a year and see what it produces. I still feel in 2015, that is the best outfield in baseball. Snyder is a nice #4, but nothing more. As I posted elsewhere, I look at him as a Matt Stairs.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 10:56 AM

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Milfman wrote: This place is losing its mind because people had unrealistic expectations. Polanco is the right fielder and will be for a long time.
After Mike Trout hit .220 in 40 games his rookie season, I'm guessing that this is news to you, but he started the following season in AAA.  It wasn't until, not 1 - but 2, outfielders got hurt, did Angels bring him back up.  It's pretty much the exact same thing that Sangue is suggesting... which is reasonable.

In Polanco's first 16 games, he had a .338 / .416 / .441 slash line.  Since then (45 games), he has a .209 / .272 / .322 slash line.  Mike Trout in his first run through had a .220 / .281 / .390 slash line, which landed him in AAA the following April.
#fringeprospect

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Posted: 08/20/2014 11:01 AM

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kdog341 wrote: Snyder has a role as the 4 th of and pinch hitter but to think he will be starting next season instead of a healthy Polanco is crazy. Everyone was upset cause Polanco was in indy half a season even though the pirates were telling us he ain't ready.
The reason for re-evaluation is Polanco's performance.  Defensively he is still learning how to catch fly balls in RF.  His arm is fantastic - that we know.

Offensively his stats leave something to be desired:


Polanco 2014 (22 yrs old).  .245 BA, .668 OPS
McCutchen 2009 (22 yrs old) .286 BA, .836 OPS

Polanco has not been what we hoped he'd be.  Until he signs an extension, you have to look at his Pirates career as 4.5 years.  You can count 6 year Pirates on one hand (Grabow, Jack Wilson, Maholm, McCutchen) Polanco has burned .5 years, so he has 4 left.  its likely ages 24-27 will be better than 23-26.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 11:06 AM

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Sangue wrote:
kdog341 wrote: Snyder has a role as the 4 th of and pinch hitter but to think he will be starting next season instead of a healthy Polanco is crazy. Everyone was upset cause Polanco was in indy half a season even though the pirates were telling us he ain't ready.
The reason for re-evaluation is Polanco's performance.  Defensively he is still learning how to catch fly balls in RF.  His arm is fantastic - that we know.

Offensively his stats leave something to be desired:


Polanco 2014 (22 yrs old).  .245 BA, .668 OPS
McCutchen 2009 (22 yrs old) .286 BA, .836 OPS

Polanco has not been what we hoped he'd be.  Until he signs an extension, you have to look at his Pirates career as 4.5 years.  You can count 6 year Pirates on one hand (Grabow, Jack Wilson, Maholm, McCutchen) Polanco has burned .5 years, so he has 4 left.  its likely ages 24-27 will be better than 23-26.
I don't disagree with you Sangue.  Starting next season with Snider in RF and Polanco in Indy very well might be the way to go.  It worked out for the Angels with Trout, why not the Buccos with Polanco?
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Posted: 08/20/2014 1:06 PM

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Snider in RF tonight.  Polanco on the pine for a 2nd night.  Looks like Hurdle is giving Polanco a blow.
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